Rewarding the champion of regular season

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Drivers ‘floating’ ideas on how to better reward champion of regular season


MOORESVILLE, N.C. — Could the regular-season champion earn a bye to the second round of the Chase?
Former series champ Brad Keselowski says drivers have discussed ways to reward the points leader more after the 26-race regular season. A bye is one such idea.

The biggest benefit to the points leader after the season’s 26th race is a spot in the Chase — if they don’t have a win and are already locked in. Since the Chase debuted in 2004, the points leader after 26 races has always had at least one victory.

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You can bet on it. With the drivers council being in existence, I think you can bet on this becoming a reality next season.

1st round bye. It doesn't seem any more far fetched too me than allowing a driver missing multiple races during the regular season being able to gain access to the Chase.

Go for it.
 
As I have been hollering for since last year have a real and meaningful 26 race schedule where points are accumulated in the old fashioned way. At the end of 26 races a champion is declared and life is grand.

The last 10 races of the year can produce a "Chase Champion" and Nascar can implement whatever type of silly rules they wish. They can use the Pythagorean Theorem for points tabulations, run figure 8 races or just make up the rules as they go along.......I don't care as I can skip the mess and watch football instead!
 
The Champion of the first 26 races SHOULD be given a spot in the final 4 and lower the number of drivers to 15. After all are they not all trying to get to the final 4?? I am sure Hamlin would not be pulling stunts like last week if the prize after 26 weeks is that valuable.

I am thinking with this, we would be emanating a whole season prior to the current carnival.
 
Wished the chase never determined the championship, it should go to who scores the most points.
They could still do a chase with the same exact rules aside from determining the championship, even cut a bigger check than the champion gets.
Just as long as the championship trophy is awarded to the true points leader.
 
Team Penske said:
The Champion of the first 26 races SHOULD be given a spot in the final 4 and lower the number of drivers to 15. After all are they not all trying to get to the final 4?? I am sure Hamlin would not be pulling stunts like last week if the prize after 26 weeks is that valuable.

I am thinking with this, we would be emanating a whole season prior to the current carnival.
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This is what I was thinking too. Might as well go all-in if you're going to do it.
 
You could reward the "regular season champion" by letting him keep the points he worked for and allowed him the chance to build on that points lead until the end of the season. Oh, the same formula goes for every other driver.

But that makes too much sense.
 
Team Penske said:
The Champion of the first 26 races SHOULD be given a spot in the final 4 and lower the number of drivers to 15. After all are they not all trying to get to the final 4?? I am sure Hamlin would not be pulling stunts like last week if the prize after 26 weeks is that valuable.

I am thinking with this, we would be emanating a whole season prior to the current carnival.
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I would be for this - give them a reason to race consistently well after earning a win.

I would also make it only 3 rounds with the first being four races and the final two being three races each.
 
Team Penske said:
The Champion of the first 26 races SHOULD be given a spot in the final 4 and lower the number of drivers to 15. After all are they not all trying to get to the final 4?? I am sure Hamlin would not be pulling stunts like last week if the prize after 26 weeks is that valuable.

I am thinking with this, we would be emanating a whole season prior to the current carnival.
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I like this idea too, but the only issue is that the 9 races in between, this person could affect who gets into the final 3 and who doesn't. For example, they could draft at Talladega with someone they want in the chase, or alternatively pull a harvick and wreck the field.
 
Wrangler1 said:
I would be for this - give them a reason to race consistently well after earning a win.

I would also make it only 3 rounds with the first being four races and the final two being three races each.
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I like the idea of extending the number of races for the final 4 and have a sort of points battle for the last 3 races. It becomes a little less lottery winner that way.
 
BobbyFord said:
I reward the regular season points leader by not watching Chase races. :)
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I am planning on watching the first 26 and I know I will want to see Martinsville in the chase but I will probably miss most of the rest but try and get a 5 minute recap with the exception of Homestead as I have not watched the finale for years. I really disliked the chase broadcasts as Letarte and Burton acted like imbeciles with all the talk about cut lines and where things would stand if the race ended now. I found it distracting and instead of focusing on the actual race it focused more on potential scenarios for chase participants. Why not just run the race and sort all that stuff out at the end?
 
ToyYoda said:
Stupidest part of the chase IMO is trashing the bonus points for wins after the first round. If you won 5 regular season races, you should start Rd. 1 with 2,015 points, Rd. 2 with 3,015, and Rd. 3 with 4,015. Only make 'em all 5,000 at Homestead.
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By the time the middle of the chase is upon us I will be watching Marcus and the 7-1 Titans getting ready for the second half of the season.
 
I'm so glad my team got matched up against the AFC south this year. 4 free wins baby!
 
ToyYoda said:
Stupidest part of the chase IMO is trashing the bonus points for wins after the first round. If you won 5 regular season races, you should start Rd. 1 with 2,015 2,050 points, Rd. 2 with 3,015 3,050, and Rd. 3 with 4,015 4,050. Only make 'em all 5,000 at Homestead.
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I edited Yoda's post to reflect a 10-point winners bonus, instead of the ridiculously small 3-point bonus. Now, with these simple and (IMO) non-controversial changes, most of the problems of the current championship format have been reduced substantially.

The best teams based on full year performance have a meaningful lead toward making the final championship round. The odds of a fluke giving the championship to a mediocre team is vastly lower.

And, the importance of the regular season has been restored. (Every damn week we get a comment from someone about "Today's race doesn't matter because we have a win," and that really chaps my @$$.

And, the format still produces the drama and excitement that is coveted.
 
Team Penske said:
The Champion of the first 26 races SHOULD be given a spot in the final 4 and lower the number of drivers to 15. After all are they not all trying to get to the final 4?? I am sure Hamlin would not be pulling stunts like last week if the prize after 26 weeks is that valuable.

I am thinking with this, we would be emanating a whole season prior to the current carnival.
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I like and agree with this
 
kymartin6 said:
The points winner after 36 races is still the best option for me.....
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That is a very popular opinion here, but I believe doing that would be a disaster of boredom unless there also was a major overhaul of the points scale at the same time. The Nascar points scale is by far the flattest scale of any major racing series in the world. It gives an insignificant reward to winning, versus the reward of taking a safe and easy 5th place or 10th place finish. The result would be an emphasis on points racing, an attitude of "coast and collect" that would be a major turnoff. Be careful what you wish for.
 
A revamp of the points scale wouldn't hurt my feelings at all..... in fact I always thought the winner should be scored more points..... I just feel it's a farce as far as the Champion being chosen in the current format.....
 
Award the regular season champion with an automatic spot in the final 4, plus award that driver with 1 bonus point for each win they accumulated during the previous 35 races. The bonus points would prevent the regular season champion from sandbagging during the first 9 races of the Chase. It's still a stupid idea compared to a 36-race championship format without a Chase, but I think this format would be much better than the current format with the Chase.
 
Like the regular season winner with a 1st round bye. Awesome.
 
Revman said:
Yawn.
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Too close to home I guess. My comments don't have anything more to do with your driver than Tony Stewart, or any other driver that it has or will fall under. Heck, insert my driver in there if you'd like. I've got far more time invested in this series than the lifespan of this Chase era. Old habits are hard to break.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Too close to home I guess. My comments don't have anything more to do with your driver than Tony Stewart, or any other driver that it has or will fall under. Heck, insert my driver in there if you'd like. I've got far more time invested in this series than the lifespan of this Chase era. Old habits are hard to break.
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I hear ya man, but honestly (and I have said this before), insert any driver who ran like Kyle did into the scenario from last year, and I am good with the outcome. I will worry if a driver who comes out of nowhere wins this thing. Hasn't happened (yet), and that probably says something about the balls of the top drivers IMO. Just my two cents....
 
Giving the overall points leader a bye in the first round doesn't fix Hamlinish type stunts. He isnt going to get the overall points lead and the intended incentive doesn't exsist for most drivers.

A better way to do the eliminations would be to set the 16 like they currently do. Then give the leader of the points 40 additional seed points, the 2nd place driver gets 39, 3rd gets gets 38 etc....
Qualifying for the rounds could still be awarded first to the winners, then by points.

BS elimination round two would work the same way. 12 drivers who qualified by winning in BS round 1, with the remainder filled by the year long points rankings. So if there were 3 different winners, the other 5 would be filled with the remaining 5 best points ranked drivers. Again the year long leader of the points gets an additional 40 seeded points, 2nd gets 39 etc...to take to the next BS round.

Using the same format all the way to getting the final four for Homestead.
For that event it could still be winner take all.

That way Brian could still get his game seven self service, while still allowing every race, and every position to still be very important.
 
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