Road Racing, Canada style.

AndyMarquisLive said:
Um, none of the Cup drivers run the entire CWTS schedule. It's one thing for them to run a few races or companion races, but Carl running the entire NW schedule every year since he started racing in Cup is bull****. NASCAR should've put a stop to it in 2006.

But, I guess Carl's gotta keep racing Nationwide because it's the only way he's gonna win a championship.
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NASCAR has always allowed Cup drivers to run in the Nationwide/Busch series. Why stop it now?
 
BobbyFord said:
NASCAR has always allowed Cup drivers to run in the Nationwide/Busch series. Why stop it now?
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Because it's hurting the sport. The Nationwide Series no longer has an identity. ARCA is what Nationwide used to be. Now, instead of being a development series, it's just a showcase for Cup drivers to practice.

It hasn't become a serious problem until 2006. Now, it's been all Cup drivers winning just about every race with Cup equipment. And the Nationwide drivers who do win a race don't even have full-time Nationwide rides because Cup drivers occupy those seats.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Because it's hurting the sport. The Nationwide Series no longer has an identity. ARCA is what Nationwide used to be. Now, instead of being a development series, it's just a showcase for Cup drivers to practice.

It hasn't become a serious problem until 2006. Now, it's been all Cup drivers winning just about every race with Cup equipment. And the Nationwide drivers who do win a race don't even have full-time Nationwide rides because Cup drivers occupy those seats.
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Apparently it's NOT hurting the sport; it's been that way for decades and the sport has survived just fine.
I guess it's a good thing that you're not in charge (of anything). :D
 
wilson89 said:
They should bring back the rule they had one season where if your in the top 35 in cup points you have to qualify on time for the Nationwide race.
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Remember why they got rid of that rule?

It was useless because Harvick already won a championship. Besides, they'll just do what they do now: get someone else to qualify the car.

Only way anything's going to change is if NASCAR either doesn't allow Cup drivers to run for points in Nationwide (which is actually something Nationwide wanted and NASCAR refused) or limit them to, for example, 10 starts.
 
I swear on Tony Stewarts chances at winning the championship this year that with one lap to go i jokingly said to my gf hey watch Ambrose blow it on the last turn lol I don't care much for Ambrose so I'm glad Edwards stole the win. I'm sick of hearing how hes the greatest road course driver there is. If he was the best he wouldn't have blown that last turn.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
I swear on Tony Stewarts chances at winning the championship this year that with one lap to go i jokingly said to my gf hey watch Ambrose blow it on the last turn lol I don't care much for Ambrose so I'm glad Edwards stole the win. I'm sick of hearing how hes the greatest road course driver there is. If he was the best he wouldn't have blown that last turn.
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And he pulled a Kyle after the race for the interview. :D
 
muggle not said:
And he pulled a Kyle after the race for the interview. :D
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Kyle was in the hauler before Marcos even gave his interview,and it looked like to me Marcos was waiting at his car to give his interview(not running to his motorhome)then admitted he messed up (not another Kyle trait)before he walked off.
 
Re: 'Cup stars in Nationwide

It works like this: Having big names in the support series gets more people watching, and thus better exposure for the non-'Cup regulars, making them more attractive to sponsors. More sposored cars in the field means a better race.
 
So I am guessing the track in Montreal is one of the few road courses people dont want on the Cup schedule?
 
Spike said:
So I am guessing the track in Montreal is one of the few road courses people dont want on the Cup schedule?
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I wouldn't mind it.

And, if we had some test days to see if the brakes/tires could withstand it, I wouldn't mind mosport either.
 
Hi all, first post and please remember this is only an opinion.

Nascar need to overhaul how they go rain racing or even road racing in general.

The stop at lap 10 to adjust setup because no one had driven in the dry crazy, thats what pitstops are for. If things need to be adjusted do it then, everyone's in the same boat. If you have dry setup data from previous years rely on that.


Now throwing a caution for 5 minutes while the whole field outfits itself for the wet weather isn't the way to go either. Put the decisions into the hands of the crew chief. If the crew chief thinks it is time to put wets on, he should be able to bring his car in and put wet tyres on like any normal pitstop. Have the windscreen wipers and all equipment needed to run in the rain already ON the car in every road course event. All they will have to do is pit for rain tyres which is done in seconds like a normal stop.

Now, the level of cautions for that race was UNACCEPTABLE. If drivers breakdown on the track or are stuck in the kitty fair enough throw a caution pull the car out. Simple. If there is bumpers on the racetrack, get someone to pick it up when the road is clear without the need for a caution.

If there is gravel on the track brought on by another car too bad, these are supposed to be professional race car drivers, they SHOULD be able to cater for changing conditions. Gravel on the track in one area is no cause for a caution. A cutdown tyre with has left small bits of rubber on the track is no cause for a caution on a road course

NASCAR needs to take some notes for their road races from some other series. See how Formula One, DTM and V8 Supercars transitions to wets. All rely heavily on the discression of the teams. Changing conditions should be left with the driver/teams to deal with it not Nascar.

Nascar keep racing in the wet conditions when they happen, it is new to most Nascar drivers and they will only improve with more racing in the wet. Watching the racing at the rear of the field showed the inexperince.

Final point. Nascar have too much control on the outcomes of these races by the use of cautions. Today Ambrose made a mistake and out braked himself into turn 13 and CE was there to sweep up the win. Congrates to CE.

Although, a number of the cautions really weren't needed today and in all probability MA would have bolted down the road with daylight second. The cautions brought MA back to the rest of the runners to make it a much closer finish.

My opinions i have listed above only applys to road course racing, ovals are a different kettle of fish and much more dangerous. I really enjoy watching the high speed oval stuff.
 
Interesting points @noddy,I agree with most if not all[for Australia],because that is what we have in Australia and I`m used to it and love it.And yes Marcos would have won with Aust` rules.
Still thats the how things are in Nascar/racing,to be honest I like the way things are.
Rules are rules and all the drivers have to live with them.
Marcos lost with driver error,not because of rules. Yes I do follow Marcos and love watching him drive.
Aussie Al
 
Magnethead said:
I wouldn't mind it.

And, if we had some test days to see if the brakes/tires could withstand it, I wouldn't mind mosport either.
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Mosport would be great, better than Montreal.

Mosport was our first race.
 
PettyBlue said:
Re: 'Cup stars in Nationwide

It works like this: Having big names in the support series gets more people watching, and thus better exposure for the non-'Cup regulars, making them more attractive to sponsors. More sposored cars in the field means a better race.
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Cup regulars running with big money teams is what has driven the smaller Nationwide teams (and sponsors) out of the race business.

It is what has ruined the Nationwide series, IMO.
 
Canadian GP said:
I hate to say it but that had to be THE worst singing of both national anthems I have ever heard. :eek:
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Did you see the local girl that did the National Anthem before the truck race in Chicago? Everyone was stunned by how good she was.
 
PettyBlue said:
Re: 'Cup stars in Nationwide

It works like this: Having big names in the support series gets more people watching, and thus better exposure for the non-'Cup regulars, making them more attractive to sponsors. More sposored cars in the field means a better race.
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How many of those Nationwide drivers are in Cup now? Hell, how many of them are in Nationwide full time anymore?

Nationwide is in a sad state when very talented drivers like Justin Lofton are making their starts with start-and-park teams and Scott Lagasse is thrown out of his ride so a Cup driver can run the remainder of the Nationwide schedule.

Brad Keselowski's the only driver to come from Nationwide to win in years... and that win was a fluke.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
How many of those Nationwide drivers are in Cup now? Hell, how many of them are in Nationwide full time anymore?

Nationwide is in a sad state when very talented drivers like Justin Lofton are making their starts with start-and-park teams and Scott Lagasse is thrown out of his ride so a Cup driver can run the remainder of the Nationwide schedule.

Brad Keselowski's the only driver to come from Nationwide to win in years... and that win was a fluke.
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If you can't run with the Big Dogs, start-and-park it.
 
BobbyFord said:
If you can't run with the Big Dogs, start-and-park it.
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Whatever Bobby. :rolleyes:

You don't mind it because it's the only way your favorite driver can win a race these days... :rolleyes:

I bet Justin Lofton could win half the Nationwide races if he was in a Gibbs or Roush car as well. But he has to race for a start and park team because there are no big rides in Nationwide because they're all filled by Cup drivers (who, minus Kyle Busch, haven't dont shiat in SpitCup this year)
 
BobbyFord said:
Isn't Kevin Harvick your driver? What's he done this year? :D
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At least Kevin knows he's in $*** equipment and wants out. Edwards just wishes rousch didn't have 4 other drivers for him to beat.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with andy here. Look at it this way- ANDY LALLY had to start and park. No cup team even wanted to have a ringer- they all wanted their multi-gazillion dollar cup drivers to get their dollars of fame up in canada.

We need more drivers/teams with the Kenny Wallace kind of iniatives in nationwide.
 
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