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Pardon the ignorance, or lack of searching. How is the line-up going to be set after each segment. Are they going to throw the caution flag, everyone pits, exit pit road then throw the red flag and bring them back down pit road again? I can't seem it find the answer?
 
old fan said:
Pardon the ignorance, or lack of searching. How is the line-up going to be set after each segment. Are they going to throw the caution flag, everyone pits, exit pit road then throw the red flag and bring them back down pit road again? I can't seem it find the answer?
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It's handled no different than any other caution.
 
Did they ever say definitively if there was going to be a new flag? I'd feel a tiny bit better about this if it wasn't going to bastardize the record book with periodic caution flags...
 
Am I the only one who doesn't like in-car interviews? Most of the drivers' responses sound generic to me, like they're not really interested in having a conversation at that time.

You can require they participate, but you can't make them interesting.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Am I the only one who doesn't like in-car interviews? Most of the drivers' responses sound generic to me, like they're not really interested in having a conversation at that time.

You can require they participate, but you can't make them interesting.
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I don't care for just about any driver interview for the reasons you mentioned. "Well Joe the Jack in the Box, Ban Deodorant, Krispy Kreme Ford Fusion was really good in stage 1. We made a couple of adjustments to tighten it up some so we got out behind a couple of other guys but we will be moving to the front."
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Am I the only one who doesn't like in-car interviews? Most of the drivers' responses sound generic to me, like they're not really interested in having a conversation at that time.

You can require they participate, but you can't make them interesting.
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I wouldn't expect anything riveting.

"Well, Deeee Dubya, the [insert sponsor here][insert make/model here] was great in the first segment and the pit crew did a great job on pit road. We made a slight air pressure adjustment and we feel pretty confident going into the second segment. Hopefully it ends as well as the first."
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I don't care for just about any driver interview for the reasons you mentioned. "Well Joe the Jack in the Box, Ban Deodorant, Krispy Kreme Ford Fusion was really good in stage 1. We made a couple of adjustments to tighten it up some so we got out behind a couple of other guys but we will be moving to the front."
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lol Exactly.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Am I the only one who doesn't like in-car interviews? Most of the drivers' responses sound generic to me, like they're not really interested in having a conversation at that time.

You can require they participate, but you can't make them interesting.
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I always feel in car interviews are way forced. It takes the driver out of his zone. Even if its under caution or whatever.

The fact the driver has to give the interview whether he wants to or not is iffy to me. I would definitely implement the Greg Popovich method on the network.

Booth guy: Hey you won, are you happy?
Me: No
Booth guy: Why not?
Me: You asked a stupid question
 
I'd favor the Marshawn Lynch approach.

"Thanks for asking."
"I'm thankful."
"I'm just here so I don't get penalized."

And let's face it, despite coaching from their PR guys, some of these fellas aren't the most sparkling conversationalists.
 
I don't see it to be all that big a deal having the in-car interviews. Sometimes you get the drivers commenting on actual race happenings. Maybe on how someone is driving like and idiot and the like. Some of the same things that we comment on.

Problem is, most times there is the initial communication problems. After a few shouts of 'Can you hear me now?' it'll be DW most likely be the one trying to relate to someone in the car from two generations beyond him. Hopefully, they will have Jeff do the talking.
 
I don't have a problem with it, but more often than not there isn't anything new / useful / entertaining being said. I don't anticipate anything that would keep me from making a run to the fridge or pulling a handful of weeds.
 
The segments will introduce a new strategy; to pit before the caution and stay out during the caution or not - depending on race strategy for segment points, fuel millage, etc. They are known breaks and the teams figure out how to use them to their advantage.

I figure the teams might treat the points paying breaks like a road race and pit before others to achieve track position for the end of a segment.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Am I the only one who doesn't like in-car interviews? Most of the drivers' responses sound generic to me, like they're not really interested in having a conversation at that time.

You can require they participate, but you can't make them interesting.
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I don't like them Charlie, but probably for a different reason than most. I have a severe hearing problem and use closed captioning. What I do hear with in car interviews is "Yea, the dsisuig, fwifrr wiotn wulthdss for us. Whueopk we fneeonhg ghetso nuy bit." Then to make matters worse, 9 times out of ten the closed captioning doesn't pick it up either.

...as far as driver interviews in general, most are quite bland.
 
Zerkfitting said:
The segments will introduce a new strategy; to pit before the caution and stay out during the caution or not - depending on race strategy for segment points, fuel millage, etc. They are known breaks and the teams figure out how to use them to their advantage.

I figure the teams might treat the points paying breaks like a road race and pit before others to achieve track position for the end of a segment.
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Bingo.

Send in your resume.
 
Zerkfitting said:
The segments will introduce a new strategy; to pit before the caution and stay out during the caution or not - depending on race strategy for segment points, fuel millage, etc. They are known breaks and the teams figure out how to use them to their advantage.

I figure the teams might treat the points paying breaks like a road race and pit before others to achieve track position for the end of a segment.
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Is there still a rule that pit road is closed 5 laps before the end of the segment or has that been changed?
 
If a caution is known to be coming, and they are doing the wave around on these cautions, we will get to the point that everyone pits before the caution on all tracks except where you can be lapped twice on pit road. That's not new strategy, it's common sense.
 
29-4 said:
If a caution is known to be coming, and they are doing the wave around on these cautions, we will get to the point that everyone pits before the caution on all tracks except where you can be lapped twice on pit road. That's not new strategy, it's common sense.
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You will be proven wrong. It won't be the first time.

You quit. That was it for you ... "they" had bastardized your sport to a point beyond your tolerance. You came back. You said you would give it a few races in order to determine whether or not the changes, one of which you have incorrectly referenced above, would work / help.

Respectfully, what you know about race strategy, and your ability to predict the future based on that knowledge, would fit in your azz pocket. Speaking only for myself, it would be nice if you would simply do as you said you would. Let's watch a few races and see what happens.
 
aunty dive said:
You will be proven wrong. It won't be the first time.

You quit. That was it for you ... "they" had bastardized your sport to a point beyond your tolerance. You came back. You said you would give it a few races in order to determine whether or not the changes, one of which you have incorrectly referenced above, would work / help.

Respectfully, what you know about race strategy, and your ability to predict the future based on that knowledge, would fit in your azz pocket. Speaking only for myself, it would be nice if you would simply do as you said you would. Let's watch a few races and see what happens.
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Explain to me the incentive not to pit if the wave around is guaranteed within 5 laps. The only exception I would see if is a caution had just come out before, allowing some cars to stay out. Short of that, we will see massive pitting right before the breaks.
 
^ You found an exception. That didn't take long. The more you contemplate this, the more you'll find.

Races are dynamic. The sequence of a wide variety of events within a race or a segment of a race will dictate strategy decisions up and down pit road. Not all of them will be the same. No 2 races or segments will ever play out the same way ... not even at the same venue.

Several people have predicted fuel strategy outcomes before the first green flag has flown. Also wrong. Fuel strategy will still be there. Different but still there.

I could go on but I don't want to bore people with my optimism for the coming season. Let's watch some races, post in the threads and gave a good time. Meanwhile, you have yourself a great evening.
 
29-4 said:
Explain to me the incentive not to pit if the wave around is guaranteed within 5 laps. The only exception I would see if is a caution had just come out before, allowing some cars to stay out. Short of that, we will see massive pitting right before the breaks.
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Maybe I am wrong, but don't the cars get the wave around after the pit stops are completed? If so, why would they pit early on a track where this rule applies?
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm still trying to figure out why they pit early and give up the segment points? o_O
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On tracks where you can pit without giving up a lap (Indy, Pocono, road courses, etc.), it might make sense for cars in mid-pack or the rear to pit early. They'd come out of the pits on the tail end of the lead lap, then assume the lead when the front-runners pit at the scheduled break.

Just speculating.
 
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