Should September 11 become a National Holiday?

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  • Strongly support - it was a turning point in our nation's history

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  • Somewhat support - it's a fitting memorial

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  • Somewhat against - doing so would cause too much hurt

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  • Strongly against - why honor a day like that?

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Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
I'm not a Jew and I didn't see anything offensive to anyone in what you said except maybe Arabs or Palestinians.  I think it was more the Nuke thing than anything else.  Remember, she has proudly stated she's an old hippy.  On the other side of the fence for me, at least.  I think she'll get over it.:)
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Yeah, but she was focusing on the Jewish part of my comments.
 
If anything, what you said might have been offensive to Arabs. Or pacifists. Not Jews. I just don't see it. Sorry, Kat.
 
I think she misunderstood what you were saying. I found nothing offense about your post. Hopefully, it will be ok in the morning.
 
Originally posted by paul
I think the day we drop a few nukes on the entire Middle East should be a national holiday.

First we need to move all the Jews out and keep them in America for a while...then when the Middle East is empty of all the terrorists we can give it all to them.
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Do you seriously think everyone in the middle east besides jewish people are terrorist. If my memorys servs me right there were other people from afganistan attacking the taliban other then ourselfs.
 
No I don't smack. And I'm usually a pacifist...but at this point how are we supposed to know who to trust. The very people that take arms WITH us could turn and take arms AGAINST us when they are in power over there.

People die in war, innocent people die. And I would rather those innocent people died in a WAR, then innocent people dying by terrorist attacks.

It's the lesser of two evils.
 
Originally posted by paul
No I don't smack.  And I'm usually a pacifist...but at this point how are we supposed to know who to trust.  The very people that take arms WITH us could turn and take arms AGAINST us when they are in power over there.

People die in war, innocent people die.  And I would rather those innocent people died in a WAR, then innocent people dying by terrorist attacks.  

It's the lesser of two evils.
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And they way I look at it, we are about 3500 people behind.
 
The thing is most people over there arnt pro terrorist, there are alot that dislike or even hate america but they would never think of doing anything about it. Its a very few, you would be killing mostly inoncents. I have a problem killing mass people it might just be me but I always tought 2 wrongs dont make a right and we would be just as bad as them. I dont want to get into a arguement about this though, I have had enough of that. We shouldn't comprimise on our beliefs no matter what, get the guilty not the inonect. Also paul the whole 9/11 incident could have been avoided if the cia and fbi would share information. You do know that 2 people on those hijacked planes were on a watch list and 1 of them was takeing classes over here on how to fly planes. I don't want another incident like 9/11 happeneing again either but I don't think doing the same thing as what our attackers did is the awnser.
 
Originally posted by smack500
Do you seriously think everyone in the middle east besides jewish people are terrorist. If my memorys servs me right there were other people from afganistan attacking the taliban other then ourselfs.
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No smack, I don't think anyone here thinks everyone in the Middle East are terrorists except Jews. The point is, they align themselves with the people who are terrorists.........and they WILL NOT denounce those people. But with that refusal to denounce terrorists, they become suspect........in other words: "If you agree with them, you must be with them". This is not a pretty world we live in........things are not utopian like, I'm sure, all of us wish. We protect KNOWN friends long before HOPEFUL friends.
 
CIA and FBI had their hands tied with an over zealot belief in exactly what you you just stated. Let's try to uphold all people and their beliefs but we let our guard down because it was "nicer" to believe that everyone is going to be just as nice as we are........not what the world is.
 
Originally posted by smack500
I don't want another incident like 9/11 happeneing again either but I don't think doing the same thing as what our attackers did is the awnser.
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Civilian casualties are an unfortunate necessity of war. Rather, they are unavoidable. What THEY did to US is not the same thing.

I wouldn't worry, though. I honestly doubt we'll be dropping any nukes anytime soon.
 
Originally posted by abooja
Civilian casualties are an unfortunate necessity of war. Rather, they are unavoidable.  What THEY did to US is not the same thing.

I wouldn't worry, though. I honestly doubt we'll be dropping any nukes anytime soon.
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But how about a few thousand "Daisy Cutters"?:)
 
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Originally posted by paul
Agree with everything you've said, except the part where state prison is a life of luxury.  Every seen any documentaries on prison life?  It's not fun, you never know when you're gonna get stuck.
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I have personally seen the inside of several penal institutions...and not for the reasons you might think. I mean no offense to anyone by saying what I am about to say. I am speaking from personal experience only here as a probation/parole officer in the state of Tennessee.

You may have seen the county jail. Hope not, but some of us probably have. But I dare say that besides fergy none of y'all have ever been inside a full blown, maximum security prison. Trust me, you don't want to see it either. While I advocate that our prisoners are treated better than our soldiers for some strange reason, the conditions there are far from posh and luxurious. Gang wars are so common that gang affiliation is taken into account before a prisoner is assigned a cell. The threat of death, mutilation, rape, and other more pleasant things is imminent. Anyone who thinks that the typical (emphasis on typical, there are exceptions) prison guard is anything short of an animal is mistaken; I have trained with them, and the vast majority are only slightly more housebroken than the inmates. In Tennessee, the requirement to be a prison guard is high school diploma PREFERRED. That speaks volumes. I am not trying to slam prison guards; I am merely pointing out my experiences. Anyone consider random body cavity searches performed by a 320 pound man luxurious living? Imagine Jimmy Spencer checking your body cavities for contraband. OK, now unimagine it.

I won't even BEGIN to describe the forensic unit at the mental hospital I went to a few times (again job related TYVM). Affectionately known as the Silence Of The Lambs Unit. Whew!

Besides, if prison was as luxurious as some people like to think, why do people constantly try to break out?

Sorry for the diatribe, just had to get that off my chest.
 
TWF.........if they could make it a little harder for the pedaphiles, I wouldn't mind.

And, for once, I'm NOT joking.
 
I say no bc we did not decalre a national holiday for December 9th did we? I say we just have it as a given remberrance day.
 
And for the record, I ain't too hip about the word "holiday" used in conjunction with September 11 either. I too think that it would eventually end up like Memorial Day with the true meaning lost in last minute beach trips. I like the idea of a day of remembrance, but that's kinda what Memorial Day is supposed to be, not an excuse for a linen sale at Sears.
 
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