Significant All-Star Race changes?

*WEAVER* said:
I'm already hearing next year whoever has the most flips at Talladega will set on the pole for the final segment.
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Poole will barrel roll 'n Sadler will do the end over end thing. NASCAR'll give it to Sadler citing unapproved dirty-side-ups for Poole.........................
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Is there anyone out there that doesn't think this format will change again next year? I wonder how long before they run out of ideas?
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I want to see them do jumps in their cup cars over brians lambo. farthest jump in the chase
 
Already more potential "tweaks" being tossed around. I have to say no, thanks.

Dustin Long ‏@dustinlong
#NASCAR ... @Keselowski says it would "seem fair" that winner of All-Star Race could be eligible for a Chase berth. Just what I've said b4

Dustin Long ‏@dustinlong
I'd add 1 thing for All-Star winner: Give winner choice in Victory Lane of $1 million or guaranteed Chase berth ... one or other
 
Chances are the winner's gonna be in the elimination thing anyway.
 
How about, and this will please all the "fans" that only watch for wrecks, at the halfway point, split the field and run half counter clockwise, and the other half clockwise.
 
That last part sounds interesting, but having it be a random X number of cars throughout the field instead of the top X number of cars would prevent any sandbagging to get track position. Hopefully tire wear is good that night.
 
Never fly. McDonald's is a Coke Dealer. “Mr. Hendrick” would throw a hissy fit.
 
Tony Stewart says give me 5 big macs, 2 large fries and make sure to fill up the large coke.
 
I was at The Winston in 1994. At the end of the 2nd segment, Ernie Irvan went four wheels in the grass going for it, and crashed, hard. I miss that. There is no reason for the driver to let it all hang out anymore.

Maybe the difference now is the drivers?
 
Bowtie3 said:
I was at The Winston in 1994. At the end of the 2nd segment, Ernie Irvan went four wheels in the grass going for it, and crashed, hard. I miss that. There is no reason for the driver to let it all hang out anymore.

Maybe the difference now is the drivers?
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You're confusing me, not that it's difficult. First you said there was no reason for the drivers to go for it now, and then you asked what's changed with the drivers.

They have the same motivation they had back then, a big fat check. Maybe what's changed is that $1,000,000 doesn't go as far as it used to.
 
Also keep in mind the ratio between the money for winning a regular race and winning this race has narrowed. Nowadays, with race winnings at $500,000 you only need to win 2 of those to match what someone wins by winning the All-Star race. 20 years ago the money that was being dangled for the All-Star race compared to what they won for winning a points race made it worth going for broke.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
You're confusing me, not that it's difficult. First you said there was no reason for the drivers to go for it now, and then you asked what's changed with the drivers.

They have the same motivation they had back then, a big fat check. Maybe what's changed is that $1,000,000 doesn't go as far as it used to.
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The driver make a lot more, a million isn't what it used to be.

That being said, Ernie Irvan, Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace and others from that era didn't need the check. They just wanted to win. That's what I'm getting at. I don't see any driver from 2016 making the move Ernie did, not even at the finish, much less at the end of a segment. There is a different breed of drivers now.
 
Based on this Kansas race, and lack of tire fall off, I'm racing to finish 12th after the 2nd segment. Even if the draw is only the top 9 have to pit, I'll take my chances starting 3rd right behind the leader with just 13 laps to go on older tires.
 
Bowtie3 said:
The driver make a lot more, a million isn't what it used to be.

That being said, Ernie Irvan, Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace and others from that era didn't need the check. They just wanted to win. That's what I'm getting at. I don't see any driver from 2016 making the move Ernie did, not even at the finish, much less at the end of a segment. There is a different breed of drivers now.
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The all star race is treated more like a test session for the 600 rather than a non points paying event.
 
MikeInIllinois said:
Based on this Kansas race, and lack of tire fall off, I'm racing to finish 12th after the 2nd segment. Even if the draw is only the top 9 have to pit, I'll take my chances starting 3rd right behind the leader with just 13 laps to go on older tires.
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Precisely why I will be skipping it. No need to watch sandbagging, no passing gimmickery.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
More gimmicks.

Here's an idea: move the damn thing somewhere else and run it as regular point-paying race. Are there other sports where the rules for the All-Star event are this different from a regular game / match / throw-down?

And I've never understood what was 'All-Star' about it; it's the same guys and gal we see every week.
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Nailed It!
 
Every year it gets harder and harder to take the ASR seriously, I think for me is its not so much the gimmicks, but its allowing drivers a chance to race their way into, or the stupid fan votes, its pretty simple, you want to be in the ASR, go win a race the pervious year, the ASR should only have drivers that have won being allowed in the ASR.

But since NASCAR is an "entertainment sport", and those all important ratings, cant chance not having a popular driver missing the ASR that didnt win the previous year, and gotta make sure Danica is in it too :laugh:

Disclaimer, that was not a dig at Danica, and should not be took as hating on Danica
 
I hate the fan vote. As much as I like Ken Schrader, Danica and Josh Wise, they had no business being in the race. If you are going to vote someone in, make it someone who will at least make the race better. Like Kasey Kahne did when he won the vote.
 
I love the "logic" that says today's drivers are ****** because they try not to lose the All Star Race the way Ernie Irvan lost it 25 years ago.

The real problem with this race in recent years has been aerodynamics, not driver motivation. I hope and expect that will be better this year.
 
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