Silly Season 2025

Formerjackman said:
I"ll remind you that James Hylton was allowed to attempt to qualify for the 2007 Daytona 500 at age 73 and after having not run a Cup race since 1993, and in between only making field filler starts in ARCA, Xfinity, and trucks. By the way, James did a great job, was a threat to nobody, and was an ill timed caution late in his qualifying race away from making the 500. You won't convince me that a 65 year old Mike Wallace with far more recent relevant experience couldn't do at least as well.
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I don't know. Cars were much different back then (gen 4). Mike Wallace hasn't run on an oval in nearly a decade. Hylton was probably in great shape, Wallace really isn't.

The issue I have with the Wallace situation is that apparently, Mike didn't talk to Sawyer personally. He tried to be sneaky and talked to some other personnel instead.

Like I said, I understand why he wasn't allowed in the race. Chances are, he's more like Derrike Cope 2021 rather than 2007 James Hylton.
 
JJ_14 said:
I don't know. Cars were much different back then (gen 4). Mike Wallace hasn't run on an oval in nearly a decade. Hylton was probably in great shape, Wallace really isn't.

The issue I have with the Wallace situation is that apparently, Mike didn't talk to Sawyer personally. He tried to be sneaky and talked to some other personnel instead.

Like I said, I understand why he wasn't allowed in the race. Chances are, he's more like Derrike Cope 2021 rather than 2007 James Hylton.
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I can't say he was being sneaky, he could have been , but he talked to the wrong person.
 
StandOnIt said:
I can't say he was being sneaky, he could have been , but he talked to the wrong person.
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JJ_14 said:
The issue I have with the Wallace situation is that apparently, Mike didn't talk to Sawyer personally. He tried to be sneaky and talked to some other personnel instead.
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According to Mike, he spoke personally with NASCAR president Steve Phelps and that's who told him he was good to go. If that's true, I don't find that very sneaky. I personally don't care about Mike racing one way or another but I can see why he would be frustrated by the conflicting information he was given.
 
Why do we keep playing these games. MTJ will be in a JGR car, Justin will be in a HMS car and Josh Berry will be in a Penske car.

You think those cars even make it Tricon, JR motorsports or Wood Brothers?
 
JJ_14 said:
I think I know who the most popular Pick 'Em driver at Daytona will be.
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Well, sure, now that Mike Wallace isn't entered...

I'm not sure about Cole head-wrenching on a Next Gen. On the other hand, it's an out-of-the-box plate car from JGR, so it probably won't need much done beyond tire pressures.
 
JJ_14 said:
I don't know. Cars were much different back then (gen 4). Mike Wallace hasn't run on an oval in nearly a decade. Hylton was probably in great shape, Wallace really isn't.

The issue I have with the Wallace situation is that apparently, Mike didn't talk to Sawyer personally. He tried to be sneaky and talked to some other personnel instead.

Like I said, I understand why he wasn't allowed in the race. Chances are, he's more like Derrike Cope 2021 rather than 2007 James Hylton.
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Most tracks require a driver to be in decent physical shape to run the full distance in a cup race. Daytona is not one of them. It's the mental aspect that gets the workout.
 
wi_racefan said:
Why do we keep playing these games. MTJ will be in a JGR car, Justin will be in a HMS car and Josh Berry will be in a Penske car.

You think those cars even make it Tricon, JR motorsports or Wood Brothers?
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I’m sure HMS will have some data sharing engagement with the team, but Dale and Kelly indicated yesterday that JRM are buying all of the Gen 7 parts themselves and assembling the car in-house. That’s different from the Wood Brothers being a branding exercise of a fourth Penske shop car.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I’m sure HMS will have some data sharing engagement with the team, but Dale and Kelly indicated yesterday that JRM are buying all of the Gen 7 parts themselves and assembling the car in-house. That’s different from the Wood Brothers being a branding exercise of a fourth Penske shop car.
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saw that too and it raised an eye brow for me in that it this might be a trial run on expenses to see how it goes and if they like their ROI they might be up for more races in the coming year.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I’m sure HMS will have some data sharing engagement with the team, but Dale and Kelly indicated yesterday that JRM are buying all of the Gen 7 parts themselves and assembling the car in-house. That’s different from the Wood Brothers being a branding exercise of a fourth Penske shop car.
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That's a lot gear for one race. I expect more entries through the season.
 
Team Penske said:
40?? your not even a 1/2 pint
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Thanks ha ha I feel old, no disrespect to those older than me on here. It’s been a rough few weeks, I feel like I suddenly lost my youth. It’s all gone by just so fast, I dreaded turning this age since when I was a kid. I always felt 40 was just so….old.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Thanks ha ha I feel old, no disrespect to those older than me on here. It’s been a rough few weeks, I feel like I suddenly lost my youth. It’s all gone by just so fast, I dreaded turning this age since when I was a kid. I always felt 40 was just so….old.
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It's just a number, man. It beat Hell out of not getting to 40.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Thanks ha ha I feel old, no disrespect to those older than me on here. It’s been a rough few weeks, I feel like I suddenly lost my youth. It’s all gone by just so fast, I dreaded turning this age since when I was a kid. I always felt 40 was just so….old.
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I feel the same way now that I've hit 40 as well. I can't do anything without sound effects. It's either a crack or a groan lol!
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Thanks ha ha I feel old, no disrespect to those older than me on here. It’s been a rough few weeks, I feel like I suddenly lost my youth. It’s all gone by just so fast, I dreaded turning this age since when I was a kid. I always felt 40 was just so….old.
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From Sep. 15 2025 on I'll be closer to my 30th birthday than to my 18th birthday. That's gonna be a weird feeling.
 
Age is truly a lot about perspective. The stuff your parents and grandparents told you is pretty much correct. Time seems dreadfully slow when we’re kids, and flies by when we’ve retired. Some of the best times are 40+, so embrace it and enjoy!
 
Gibbs finally fell out of the dumb ass tree when they strong armed him to let Bell get back to what he does best. There was a whole side of racing that was pissed off about that including Bell. Just watch this year, Bell's star is going to rise. Sponsors like that stuff.
 
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