Stage Racing in the Playoffs?

I'm indifferent on the whole stage thing. It hasn't taken anything away from or added anything to my excitement in watch a race. I understand why they were implemented and see how the points are rewarding those who race hard during the regular season. As far as stages in the final 10, as long as the winners reap the wards of those points, I don't see a problem with it. That's what they were designed for.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
If Nascar was about sport I would get what you are saying but the real reason for stages isn't for playoff points and whatever else they give away. The real reason for stages is to stop the race to keep cars on the lead lap and to have restarts where other than pit road are often the only time when any real action takes place. I see more stages coming to to more races next year as it is a means of Nascar managing the product in a way they think people enjoy as opposed to letting things take place organically.
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Yeah, I see it happening too. We will go to 4 stages per race then 5, 6, and who knows. The networks will be happy because they can set and sell the advertising and when they will run, and NASCAR will believe that the fans will be happier with more rack'em/stack'em style of racing. It made Indy more enjoyable after the 18 and the 78 had their crash though. Who knows if it will be better or worse.
 
Simple Fan said:
NASCAR is not going to PPV. No matter what you think NASCAR is in good shape and will continue to be. If you are a fan of racing in general than NASCAR should still entertain you. I think you yourself manufacture alot of this drama as its not really there with so called debris caustions and such. And if it is mabufactured drama just shut up and enjoy it because it's been pretty entertaining this season.
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Maybe I've been watching a different race than you, the racing still sucks, the aero package is horrible, clean air allows the leader to check out in most cases. If the racing is so good why are attendance ratings plummeting, car counts starting to dwindle. and tv ratings lower? Lets face it you can sugarcoat it all you want, but when you put out a bad product this is what happens. If you have to manufacture drama with stages, then you are just putting a band aid on the real problem like Nascar does all the time.
 
Deathbed fans look thru a different looking glass, 10 different winners this year for one thing. Ratings are not horrible, there aren't any crises, but a deathbedder fan can always find something?
 
Deathbed fans are great for the sport, they keep the herd strong;)

DAYTONA 500 on FOX Scores More Than 23 Million Total Viewers
 
StandOnIt said:
Deathbed fans are great for the sport, they keep the herd strong;)
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I'm not a deathbed fan, I'm practical, been a fan since 1966, can you say the same? If you can't see that this sport is in big trouble then you must work for nascar or be pretty damn naive!
 
Mopardh9 said:
I'm not a deathbed fan, I'm practical, been a fan since 1966, can you say the same? If you can't see that this sport is in big trouble then you must work for nascar or be pretty damn naive!
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Well in 1966 NASCAR was making far less money than they are today and the sport was just fine. Who knows if they're really in that much trouble it might force them to scale back a bit and be more reasonable of NASCAR in 1966.
 
I was reading about Ned Jarrett and keeping up with what Tiny Lund did in 64 in Hot rod magazine, and watching the Ramchargers run in the first funny cars at U.S. 30 dragstrip up by Gary, and sitting in the stands wondering who would take a brand new 64 Chevelle and run it at the local dirt bullring. That FWIW, and a buck will buy ya a cup of coffee.
 
Mopardh9 said:
30k fans at a race...yeh ok, the sport is doing just fine....wake up
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Some folks can look at the grass and tell you with a straight face that it is not green and others will tell you that Nascar is a robust organization well positioned for today and the future. Of course there are some on this thread that would tell you K-Mart and Sears are booming retailers and therefore all is well.

If success is defined by removing unused seats at tracks, a shrinking fan base, a fan base where about 70% are over 50 years of age, organizations that have or will shut down teams due to lack of sponsorship, drivers and team members that are taking pay cuts, being laid off or unable to find work and TV ratings that drop steadily every year then Nascar is very successful.
 
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