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Toyota not commenting on MWR penalties: Toyota has elected not to release a statement regarding the recent NASCAR sanctions against Michael Waltrip Racing stemming from what NASCAR vice president Robin Pemberton characterized as an attempt "to manipulate the outcome of the race" at Richmond International Raceway on Saturday night. On Thursday, Ed Laukes, vice president for marketing communications and motorsports with Toyota Auto Sales, said the manufacturer's "focus was on the three drivers remaining in the Chase"  #20-Matt Kenseth, #18-Kyle Busch and #15-Clint Bowyer. "As far as the Waltrip organization goes, absolutely nothing's changed with us," Laukes said. "We're not going to really talk about it  we're just going to focus on exactly where we're at with our three guys. I think, at the end of the day, we have to look at how we support our teams, and what happened in this situation is really between Michael Waltrip Racing and NASCAR. It's unfortunate, but it's part of the sport. There's a long history, long before Toyota got into the sport, of things that happened, and it's really between Michael Waltrip racing and NASCAR. At this point we just have to stay focused on everything that's going on with the three guys and try to get a first Sprint Cup championship for Toyota."(Fox Sports)(9-12-2013)
 
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Toyota not commenting on MWR penalties: Toyota has elected not to release a statement regarding the recent NASCAR sanctions against Michael Waltrip Racing stemming from what NASCAR vice president Robin Pemberton characterized as an attempt "to manipulate the outcome of the race" at Richmond International Raceway on Saturday night. On Thursday, Ed Laukes, vice president for marketing communications and motorsports with Toyota Auto Sales, said the manufacturer's "focus was on the three drivers remaining in the Chase"  #20-Matt Kenseth, #18-Kyle Busch and #15-Clint Bowyer. "As far as the Waltrip organization goes, absolutely nothing's changed with us," Laukes said. "We're not going to really talk about it  we're just going to focus on exactly where we're at with our three guys. I think, at the end of the day, we have to look at how we support our teams, and what happened in this situation is really between Michael Waltrip Racing and NASCAR. It's unfortunate, but it's part of the sport. There's a long history, long before Toyota got into the sport, of things that happened, and it's really between Michael Waltrip racing and NASCAR. At this point we just have to stay focused on everything that's going on with the three guys and try to get a first Sprint Cup championship for Toyota."(Fox Sports)(9-12-2013)
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That's smart, knowing their place and taking the high road.
 
I can understand a sponsor walking away but a brand? That's abit much.

One thing though, Mikey better walk straight from here on out because I doubt any other make would take this guy in after all his shenanigans.
 
Honda took the hi road and Hendrick's bribe money. If Toyota could find a competitive team that would switch to Toyota they would. Nothing against them, Ford or Chevy would do the same thing.
 
StandOnIt said:
Honda took the hi road and Hendrick's bribe money. If Toyota could find a competitive team that would switch to Toyota they would. Nothing against them, Ford or Chevy would do the same thing.
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Technically it was Honda executives. I doubt Honda corporate in Japan approved of their American executives getting BMWs and cash in exchange for dealerships.
 
KevinWI said:
Technically it was Honda executives. I doubt Honda corporate in Japan approved of their American executives getting BMWs and cash in exchange for dealerships.
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Car dealers in 30 states..doesn't say how many, Hendrick was the fall guy..the scapegoat. And you are naive to think the the boys in Japan didn't know it was going on.
The government said in 1995 that car dealers in 30 states gave $15 million in kickbacks from 1979 to 1992 to executives of American Honda Motor Co., based in Torrance, Calif., at a time when the cars were in short supply with strong demand.
 
StandOnIt said:
Car dealers in 30 states..doesn't say how many, Hendrick was the fall guy..the scapegoat. And you are naive to think the the boys in Japan didn't know it was going on.
The government said in 1995 that car dealers in 30 states gave $15 million in kickbacks from 1979 to 1992 to executives of American Honda Motor Co., based in Torrance, Calif., at a time when the cars were in short supply with strong demand.
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Yeah, and you're a crackpot if you think the American executives were calling back to Tokyo and saying "We're taking money and cars from dealers in exchange for giving them dealerships." Would you admit to your boss that you were being bribed?

Let's cut the crap here, you hate Toyota and Honda and don't think the Japanese should be in NASCAR.
 
Here is you American honda go to guy
Tetsuo Iwamura
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Tetsuo Iwamura is president and chief executive officer of American Honda Motor Co., Inc., with operational responsibility for all American Honda businesses, as well as a managing director of Honda Motor Co., Ltd., and chief ope..
 
Just proving what I said..you having problems with your answer/defense..love that honda in the driveway you paid three prices for or what?
 
No, I drive a Ford Explorer. Personally, don't care for Japanese street cars, but I have no problem with Japanese people or them trying to compete in NASCAR. I just hate the vilification of Toyota/Honda because the people who own it look different than you.
 
Their choice wouldn't ya say. they are paying for them. sorry dude, I don't want toyota to win a manufacture's championship, crime in that? And hammering on Hendrick when he was one of many, 30 states dealers worth, supplying Honda's to the masses and thinking honda wasn't involved in it is B.S. IMO. hell, my xwife dad bribed one of his dealer crony friends and got her one of the things.
 
You're the guy who always says that NASCAR is the highest level of motorsport in the world, what's wrong with a foreign manufacturer coming in here saying "Ok, we want to come into this very difficult series and try to built competitive race cars and win championships?". I think it's very flattering to NASCAR. This is why I've always liked to see Toyota in NASCAR or Honda in IndyCar and never believed in this jingoistic "They don't belong here" crap.
 
don't believe I have ever said they don't belong, just don't want them to win the mfg. championship. ABT brotherhood.. anything but a Toyota. some have driver love, I like to see a Chevy or a Ford in front, but rather it be a Dodge.o_O
 
KevinWI said:
You're the guy who always says that NASCAR is the highest level of motorsport in the world, what's wrong with a foreign manufacturer coming in here saying "Ok, we want to come into this very difficult series and try to built competitive race cars and win championships?". I think it's very flattering to NASCAR. This is why I've always liked to see Toyota in NASCAR or Honda in IndyCar and never believed in this jingoistic "They don't belong here" crap.
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This is the problem NASCAR has and why they can't attract younger audiences. Young people don't drive Found On Road Dead or Get Mechanic vehicles. They drive Honda, Toyota, Subaru and Hyundai vehicles. They take Civics and race them. That's the culture now. And that's because people my age grew up in a time where Detroit was building terrible cars. Hyundai, Toyota, Honda and Subaru were building cars with good reputations and standing behind them with warranties that were unmatched. Their dealerships were standing behind their products with extended warranties on used cars. Hell, the I bought a 15 year old Corolla with over 80,000 miles on it from a Toyota dealership and Toyota backed it with a warranty. And sure enough, when I had a problem with it during that warranty, they took care of it and more. Add in the fact that people who are slightly younger than I am bought their first cars when Detroit was burning.

If you want to attract younger audiences, try to put cars on the track that they like. Younger people won't buy a Ford Mustang or a Chevy Camaro. They'll buy a Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla. And the Duck Dynasty crowd buys lifted trucks while taking selfies with guns they don't know how to shoot.
 
It's a Subi world, we just live in it. ;)

The only ricer brand I truly support.

Though the Toyota Taco(93'-present) is my favorite truck. Period.
 
oh great Andy's here let the horse spit fly. Toyota's backing off and leaving MWR hanging..so what. one less toyota in the chase? priceless. none of my step sons friends drive any..guess they are strange, Mustang, Thunderbird and a Ford focus. kid up the street drives a PT cruiser. I guess Okies are different. Now my sis drives a Lexis, she might agree with ya. Just put a 600 buck starter and a new battery in hers 100$. you don't do much work on anything, to busy making up stuff about TV ratings and who is watching what on the tube, but import parts are higher as a rule.
 
StandOnIt said:
oh great Andy's here let the horse spit fly. Toyota's backing off and leaving MWR hanging..so what. one less toyota in the chase? priceless. none of my step sons friends drive any..guess they are strange, Mustang, Thunderbird and a Ford focus. kid up the street drives a PT cruiser. I guess Okies are different. Now my sis drives a Lexis, she might agree with ya. Just put a 600 buck starter and a new battery in hers 100$. you don't do much work on anything, to busy making up stuff about TV ratings and who is watching what on the tube, but import parts are higher as a rule.
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Go to a drag strip on a Saturday night and see what street cars kids are racing. Maryland International Raceway's Import vs. Domestic shows bring more fans in the stands than Bowman Gray Stadium could dream about getting. Hell, some of those shows bring in more fans than NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races get.

I'm 25. And I've spent the last, I don't know, six years of my life at racetracks. I think I know more about people my age than you do.

$600 for a starter? :bsflag:
 
I don't agree, pass time, pinks, ya don't see em around here anyway. I see drag cars on trailers going to the strip all the time, I haven't seen an import drag car. I'm sure they are out there, but you can't beat cubic inches or even a small block for cheap horsepower. I have a 360 warmed over a bit in my 68 Dodge and I pity the fool in an import with a fart can hanging off the back of it is going to outrun me.
 
I bought my Subaru Impreza for $500. So far, I've put $90 of work in that car.

My previous car was a Buick Regal. I paid $2,000 for it. In the same time period, I had to have the fuel pump, intake manifold, computer and engine replaced. I finally got rid of it after the second engine literally erupted in flames. And this was a V6 3800... this is supposedly one of the best motors GM has ever produced. And I had two of them blow up on me.

So tell me, oh wise one, which car has been more reliable and more cost efficient?
 
StandOnIt said:
oh great Andy's here let the horse spit fly. Toyota's backing off and leaving MWR hanging..so what. one less toyota in the chase? priceless. none of my step sons friends drive any..guess they are strange, Mustang, Thunderbird and a Ford focus. kid up the street drives a PT cruiser. I guess Okies are different. Now my sis drives a Lexis, she might agree with ya. Just put a 600 buck starter and a new battery in hers 100$. you don't do much work on anything, to busy making up stuff about TV ratings and who is watching what on the tube, but import parts are higher as a rule.
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I think your sis paid the "Lexus" tax. The starter for the Toyota Camry from the same year is probably half the price. :D :D :D
 
DUN24 said:
It's a Subi world, we just live in it. ;)

The only ricer brand I truly support.

Though the Toyota Taco(93'-present) is my favorite truck. Period
I'm about to buy my 10th Suby, love them wouldn't drive anything else, except mayeb a Toyota Tacoma truck. Now I'm 52 years old, I grew up racing muscle cars and going to the NE. tracks with my dad in the 60s and 70s. I love American Muscle, but this country started making crap cars, it is our own fault that people switched to buying Japanese cars. Why wouldn't you......they were better.
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StandOnIt said:
I don't agree, pass time, pinks, ya don't see em around here anyway. I see drag cars on trailers going to the strip all the time, I haven't seen an import drag car. I'm sure they are out there, but you can't beat cubic inches or even a small block for cheap horsepower.
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I got to agree with Andy on this, SOI. My old man and his buddy both have drag street cars and I help 'em drive down to the local drag strip sometimes. Most of the guys racing American muscle cars are older guys, most of the younger guys are there racing Eagle Talons or Subarus or whatevers. You can't tell these are drag cars because they can't afford trailers and they look just like street cars.

I think it's paternal thing to be into American muscle cars. My family has always been into Chevys (and AMCs before that) and my cousin just bought a new Camaro. I think people who grew up with dads that were into muscle cars like Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers end up liking that **** when they're older and guys who never had families with car guys are drawn to the Japanese stuff. Of course, I'm generalizing and there will be exceptions for each.
 
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KevinWI said:
I got to agree with Andy on this, SOI. My old man and his buddy both have drag street cars and I help 'em drive down to the local drag strip sometimes. Most of the guys racing American muscle cars are older guys, most of the younger guys are there racing Eagle Talons or Subarus or whatevers. You can't tell these are drag cars because they can't afford trailers and they look just like street cars.

I think it's paternal thing to be into American muscle cars. My family has always been into Chevys (and AMCs before that) and my cousin just bought a new Camaro. I think people who grew up with dads that were into muscle cars like Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers end up liking that **** when they're older and guys who never had families with car guys are drawn to the Japanese stuff. Of course, I'm generalizing and there will be exceptions for each.
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Allright ya got me I give.Those Imports are cheap and they are daily drivers. I posted my heap just to let ya know I ain't lying, older that you guys are, don't think I will ever see an Import that old and I also have a newer dodge truck with 240 thou on the clock that still has the original drivetrain that has never been touched, just for oil changes and plugs and an A/C compressor, still has the original brakes on the rear. Incredible service, wife had a Buick with 250 thou when we traded it off, same thing, nothing major the whole time. So I am biased a bit, have had good service for years with American brands. Power window motors in the Buick were made in China, had to replace three of them.o_O
 
And that's just it, OLDER Ford vehicles and OLDER Chevy vehicles still run. But we're talking about cars from the 1960s and 1970s - cars that have value because of their age and appeal to car collectors and American muscle enthusiasts. And cars that old are also exceptionally rare. Hell, 20-30 year old vehicles were exceptionally rare in the 1990s (though that was a different time and a different world). Now, 20 years later, ricer cars that are 20-30 years old aren't rare at all. They're actually very common.

Pickup trucks - again, the only people buying those are rednecks and the wannabe rednecks that watch Duck Dynasty on A&E and want to be just like Willie Robinson.

We live in a different world. Cars are more expensive now. Gas prices are asinine. People don't have the income they used to have. Honda, Toyota and Subaru cars are proven to have excellent mileage. Even their older cars have excellent mileage. And on the reliability side, ricer cars are proven to be more reliable. You don't drive down the road and see a lot of 1994 Pontiac Grand Prixs or 1995 Chevy Monte Carlos or 2001 Dodge Intrepids or so on. But you do see a lot of 1995 Toyota Corollas and 1992 Honda Preludes and 1987 Toyota Camrys and 1996 Subaru Imprezas and so on. And there's a reason for that. Because the Pontiacs, Fords and Chevys are in junkyards while the Toyotas, Hondas and Subarus still run with hundreds of thousands of miles on their engine.
 
GM, Chrysler and Ford let the quality of their products deteriorate greatly. They cut corners and cut costs to maximize profits and put crap cars on the road and thought they could survive on American loyalty to buying American cars. Meantime, people my age were growing up seeing our parents' three year old cars breaking down every couple months. At the same time, you have the Japs putting reliable cars on the road and standing behind their products.

I love America but buying a Chevy because it's an American car is the equivalent of shooting myself in the face because the gun I shot myself in the face with was made in America.
 
Like I said that is your opinion, where you live that might be true, plenty of commuter cars. because you have had a bad experience, doesn't make it so. GM is the number one maker of vehicles in the U.S. so there are plenty of people that think GM products are worth paying for. Texas and Oklahoma is truck country, texas a few years ago bought 75% of the Chevy suburbans that were sold in the U.S., so you go ahead and tout your import and your redneck opinions, you haven't been anywhere to make it, but you are welcome to it. Most sold car world wide is a FORD. Two years running.http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ocus-fiesta-honda-civic-toyota-camry/2066187/
 
I drive a 20 year old Toyota (Lexus SC400) with a Toyota V8 engine with over 300,000kms on it and I'd put that against any Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. My dad had 3 Caddy's that didn't make it to 150,000kms before the engines blew up. The fact of the matter is over the last 20-30 years the Japanese have made a vastly superior product in most cases when compared to the NA equivalent. They do this by provided excellent value, in terms of quality materials, solid engineering, relability and fuel economy in a total package that the American brands can't seem to compete with. The truck market is really the last and only market where the NA brands are still dominant. As others have mentioned the younger generations are more attracted to the imports now, I have a Toyota, my brothers drive Honda's and Mazda's heck even my dad who was a GM guy for 40 years is driving a beautiful new Hyundai now.

So I for one would love to see Toyota get their first Cup title. It's just too bad they can't seem to make their Cup engines as durable as their production ones.
 
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