The Announcers Thread

HoneyBadger said:
The price increases are on my nerves. Now we're seeing the streaming companies saying the next round of price hikes will probably be massive.
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DirecTV notified us we'll see an increase soon. I don't think this one is supposed to be bad. But we'll see.
 
MRM said:
DirecTV notified us we'll see an increase soon. I don't think this one is supposed to be bad. But we'll see.
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It’s not the providers doing this though. It’s the stations.

They have their streaming services and look how much those keep going up. Some of them have more than doubled in price in the last two years and now the chatter is massive price hikes are coming.

These things aren’t profitable and we just need to go back to cable tv.
 
The Bristol race only drew 1.5 million viewers, down 300k from last year. The crowd was down too. I think the September date is hurting the race, not to mention a couple of lackluster races there.
 
MRM said:
Ratings continue to slide downward as the season goes along.

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Sadly, I think ratings would be worse without the playoffs.

And NBC really needs to put these races on Peacock. Comcast is transitioning away from cable TV but NBC keeps these races on ****** Versant's USA.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I'd like to see survey data that supports or refutes that.
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Survey data, if it existed, would be so unreliable.

I imagine NBC has a lot of internal data when they're pushing back against eliminating the playoffs. In 2013, ESPN only wanted to keep the playoffs and nothing else before NBC ultimately outbid them.
 
HoneyBadger said:
Sadly, I think ratings would be worse without the playoffs.

And NBC really needs to put these races on Peacock. Comcast is transitioning away from cable TV but NBC keeps these races on ****** Versant's USA.
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Or put them on NBC. Regardless I think they’ve probably screwed up the postseason everything a bit. 16 of 36 full time drivers is too much to build interest in “making it” and a 10 race chase of a 36 race schedule is a bit too much. Drop it down to 8-10 in the postseason and 5 races of a playoff. That’d build quite a bit more excitement.
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Or put them on NBC. Regardless I think they’ve probably screwed up the postseason everything a bit. 16 of 36 full time drivers is too much to build interest in “making it” and a 10 race chase of a 36 race schedule is a bit too much. Drop it down to 8-10 in the postseason and 5 races of a playoff. That’d build quite a bit more excitement.
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But they want those to go against football, which is why there are 10.
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Or put them on NBC. Regardless I think they’ve probably screwed up the postseason everything a bit. 16 of 36 full time drivers is too much to build interest in “making it” and a 10 race chase of a 36 race schedule is a bit too much. Drop it down to 8-10 in the postseason and 5 races of a playoff. That’d build quite a bit more excitement.
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The three linear TV partners that bought into NASCAR did so to prop up cable when it’s being abandoned. And NASCAR took the bag.

Truthfully, NASCAR should’ve gone all in with Amazon and Nexstar (CW).

The other thing we have to take into account with the ratings drop is, we have no idea how many people are watching from their pirate ships.

Internet piracy has exploded this year because the price increases from cable and streaming and the content purging from streamers has pissed everyone off. @StandOnIt shared a great video last week about it.
 


So, ratings are up for the NFL, MLB, and WNBA. The ratings dip was only 2% for the NBA, which itself is facing a starpower problem.

This is starting to look like a problem exclusive to NASCAR.
 
MRM said:
Another down week for NASCAR Cup Series.

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MLB sees ratings increases because they have starpower in Shohei Othani, Aaron Judge, and Paul Skenes, among others.

WNBA sees ratings increases because they have starpower in Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, Angel Reese, and Paige Bueckers, among others.

F1 has starpower in Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc, among others.

NASCAR's "superstar" is ... Chase Elliott, who is so boring, he makes Jimmie Johnson look like "Hollywood" Tim Richmond. And despite his status as the most popular driver, Bubba Wallace is probably the only name a casual sports fan knows.

Another problem is that nobody has a defining paint scheme anymore. Earnhardt had his iconic black car. Ricky Rudd had the Tide ride. Jeff Gordon had the rainbow car, then the flames. Mark Martin had the red/white/blue paint scheme. Now, the paint schemes are different every single week.

IMO, drivers not having a definitive paint scheme or definitive colors is a huge problem. You KNOW who the Dallas Cowboys are from their helmets. You know who the New York Yankees are from the pinstripes. You know who the Los Angeles Lakers are. Kyle Larson, Josh Berry and Joey Logano are the only cars that have a definitive paint scheme most races.

Also, the deal was signed with NBC, not VERSANT. Get these races off USA.
 
I predict that the Roval is going to once again hit a new ratings low point for the the Cup Series (beating out NH), and it’ll be dangerously close to under 1M.
 
HoneyBadger said:
MLB sees ratings increases because they have starpower in Shohei Othani, Aaron Judge, and Paul Skenes, among others.

WNBA sees ratings increases because they have starpower in Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, Angel Reese, and Paige Bueckers, among others.

F1 has starpower in Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc, among others.

NASCAR's "superstar" is ... Chase Elliott, who is so boring, he makes Jimmie Johnson look like "Hollywood" Tim Richmond. And despite his status as the most popular driver, Bubba Wallace is probably the only name a casual sports fan knows.

Another problem is that nobody has a defining paint scheme anymore. Earnhardt had his iconic black car. Ricky Rudd had the Tide ride. Jeff Gordon had the rainbow car, then the flames. Mark Martin had the red/white/blue paint scheme. Now, the paint schemes are different every single week.

IMO, drivers not having a definitive paint scheme or definitive colors is a huge problem. You KNOW who the Dallas Cowboys are from their helmets. You know who the New York Yankees are from the pinstripes. You know who the Los Angeles Lakers are. Kyle Larson, Josh Berry and Joey Logano are the only cars that have a definitive paint scheme most races.

Also, the deal was signed with NBC, not VERSANT. Get these races off USA.
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All good points, especially the Chase Elliott boring comment. I was near him at one of the dirt late model races at Bristol and he was just there. Talked some, not a lot. Didn't kid around. Seems like all he wants to do is drive a race car and not much else, maybe fishing or something else low-key.
 
Again stick n ball comparisons don't work. Nascar drivers have sponsors. Sponsors don't like drivers saying much.
 
Another dismal rating for NASCAR.



For comparison, the viewership for Monday night's thriller between the Chiefs and the Jaguars was up 40% over last year's game between the Chiefs and the Aints.

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This is not a distribution problem.
 
MRM said:
NHRA outdraws NASCAR on Sunday because it was on Fox and got a huge lead-in from the NFL. NASCAR is buried on cable.

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Obviously I know the reason why (on Fox after NFL), but it's kinda funny that NHRA of all things was the most viewed motorsport this weekend lol.
 
DaleJrFan2003 said:
Obviously I know the reason why (on Fox after NFL), but it's kinda funny that NHRA of all things was the most viewed motorsport this weekend lol.
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I don't think its funny, I think it's sad. They play up these playoff races and now it's getting beat by NHRA? I mean seriously when has that ever happened? I think this will be another hard week for viewership as it goes up against an F1 race in the states
 
wi_racefan said:
I don't think its funny, I think it's sad. They play up these playoff races and now it's getting beat by NHRA? I mean seriously when has that ever happened? I think this will be another hard week for viewership as it goes up against an F1 race in the states
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Eh, like HoneyBadger said, it's a fluke in this case, since NHRA was on big Fox for whatever and came on right after the NFL, so in this instance it doesn't really mean much. Which is why I can laugh at it in this instance.
 
MRM said:
NASCAR gets a pretty good number for Talladega despite going against F1 on ABC.
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Poor planning on both parts. Each would have more live motorsports viewers if they hadn't completed. Still, recording technologies to the viewers' rescue.
 
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