The season too long???

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lisa

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As much as I love racing, by the end of the season I am a bit burnt out. Part of me wishes the season wasn't so long. But as I type this believe me, by next month I'll be missing the Nascar races.


Does anyone else feel a bit burnt out by the end of racing season???
 
I definitely feel the same way. The last few years, I have essentially quit watching all together around chase time and just read about it on Monday. Part of it is because the chase just takes away a lot of my interest, but another part is probably my short attention span.

I think NASCAR could definitely stand to trim 8-10 races from the schedule. It'd probably be better for the overall longevity of the sport. Without the cost of a grueling 36 races, more teams MIGHT be able to run a full season. The same goes for the Nationwide Series. Personally, I felt it was perfect in the late 80s with 28 race cup seasons, and you could do 25 Nationwide races, and maybe cut a couple truck races as well.
 
I don't think the season is too long but they do need to think about when the NFL starts. Maybe move those races to Saturday nights? I'd rather face college football than NFL.
 
That's why the NFL succeeds -- the season is short and there's a ton of anticipation for the new season. Plus, training camp and everything.

End the season on Labor Day in Atlanta or early October in Daytona or Vegas. After the crappy attendance at Homestead this past week for one of the most anticipated season finales in a long time, I'm not sure they deserve the final race anymore. Move Homestead to February.
 
Start racing at Daytona the first weekend in March and end the season at Daytona the last weekend in October. Plenty of racing there.
 
Nope the only problem is this darn long off season.
 
Jameswnh said:
I definitely feel the same way. The last few years, I have essentially quit watching all together around chase time and just read about it on Monday. Part of it is because the chase just takes away a lot of my interest, but another part is probably my short attention span.

I think NASCAR could definitely stand to trim 8-10 races from the schedule. It'd probably be better for the overall longevity of the sport. Without the cost of a grueling 36 races, more teams MIGHT be able to run a full season. The same goes for the Nationwide Series. Personally, I felt it was perfect in the late 80s with 28 race cup seasons, and you could do 25 Nationwide races, and maybe cut a couple truck races as well.
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Said the same thing in another post, end the season last week of September. 36 races are way too many, I dont watch much racing when football starts, just lose interest in it. I do however like to go to local season ending races at the tracks around here in New England, but to sit and watch Nascar on a sunday in October or November, just isn't a priority for me. NFL and College football take center stage that time of the year, until Nascar gets a clue, and gets their greed in check then maybe the season will be set to 26-30 races instead of 36 plus the 2 exibition races.
 
Why move racing for football football can wait for racing to end.
 
Also say the NFL locks out next year and the race season ends on Labor day, you'd all have nothing to watch other then baseball and preseason hockey
 
kkfan91 said:
Also say the NFL locks out next year and the race season ends on Labor day, you'd all have nothing to watch other then baseball and preseason hockey
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Basketball, college sports, plenty!
 
Instead of watching too much T.V. ,I try to do constructive things around the house and property.
Seems to pass the time rather quickly,and my eyes don't hurt so much from being glued to the tube.
 
I say trim 6 races (makes it an even 30 points races), keep the all star race, make all races have 50 lap "heat" races to qualify, say 3 races with 15 cars each and require a 4 tire pit stop at lap 25, and have qualifying the morning of the race.

Shorten races to 300 or 350 miles/ect, but yellow laps don't count.

Instead of ending season early, have a week between races here and there.

If you have tracks bid for second dates/chase dates/finale host, we all know it will make a bruton vs nascar bidding war, and the few small tracks left will lose out. So have the track general managers draw cards like a lottery system at the All-Star race, where 10 have a number from 1-10, and the rest are blank. This sets the order of the chase races for the next season, and leaves 20 positions open on the schedule to be disputed by 17 (or however many) tracks. Those 17 pull cards from 1-17, and this sets the season leading up to the chase. This leaves the first, second, and third races of the season open. Now we could have drivers vote, but then tracks would be bribing drivers. We can't award the tracks from the previous season with the biggest crowds, because we know how inflated NASCRAP's attendance numbers are. Fan votes wouldnt work because who knows how manipulated those could be. No, we need something that could be proven live on TV.

Solution? I'm out of ideas.
 
Stewart Fan said:
It's not really that long when you compare it to other sports. Daytona time will be here before you know it.
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Yes and I want it hear today so there is no way in hell I'll let a bunch of people with a bad idea make me wait 3 extra months.

Also watch the UFL...your really reaching there.

Besides football season doesn't start until thanksgiving, at least to a race fan it shouldn't
 
Start with one race at each of the current tracks, 23 races. Add one race at Memphis, Nashville, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Rockingham, Iowa, & Road America. Total of 30 races. That's long enough. JMO
 
52 races a year no off weeks works for me:beerbang:
 
OMG ....the long race season is one of the major reasons the sport is in trouble. You guys dont get it, over saturation, lack of sponsor $$, and a longer season all go hand in hand. That is why you dont see the stands filled every week anymore. The season should end no later than the last week of September or first week of October, no more than 30 races. In fact, there could even be a few weeks where there were more than one race per week if it was planned correctly, that way the season could actually end before football started. Wouldnt be hard to do this. Then Nascar wouldnt be going head to head with the NFL, NCAA , and MLB the last 2 months ...Oct and Nov. You have the WS and all the football games competing with NASCAR in those last 2 months, which takes away a lot of viewers in the stands and at home . The thing is NASCAR seems to be oblivious to this or they just dont give a ****.;)
 
Since everything concerning NASCAR is broadcasted on TV, there is just too much of it. Too much of something will get anybody burned out on it in a hurry.

I never thought I'd see the day when I'd get burned out on it, but I have been feeling that way the last season or two. I have been following NASCAR since 1975. I used to dread the off-season and would spend my time doing other things to keep my interest peaked (collected cards, die cast, etc.). Not any more. I think they need to go back to a 30-race schedule and end the season in mid to late October.
 
No you guys just don't get it, there is not an oversaturation. We need racing to run as it is now if not longer. Even when the stands aren't filled you draw as much as a football game with millions more watching. The season is good now why would you force me to watch sports I don't want to like the NCAA crap. Racing is fine the way it is keep your hands off!
 
kkfan91 said:
No you guys just don't get it, there is not an oversaturation. We need racing to run as it is now if not longer. Even when the stands aren't filled you draw as much as a football game with millions more watching. The season is good now why would you force me to watch sports I don't want to like the NCAA crap. Racing is fine the way it is keep your hands off!
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i think more people are tuning into football than nascar. nascar needs to stop competing with college and pro football, they loose every single time.

if you cut back the schedule the sport will offer a better product to its fan base.
 
kkfan91 said:
No you guys just don't get it, there is not an oversaturation. We need racing to run as it is now if not longer. Even when the stands aren't filled you draw as much as a football game with millions more watching. The season is good now why would you force me to watch sports I don't want to like the NCAA crap. Racing is fine the way it is keep your hands off!
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I have to disagree. I don't care what it is. If you offer too much of one thing, people will get tired of it. You need to have people wanting more. If you give them everything there is to have, there is nothing more to give. You've reached the limit. Then you start losing fans. SPEED has been creating game shows to draw viewers. They have run out of things to show or talk about.
 
If a fan doesn't want to see what they love they are clearly a terrible fan. I want to see a race every week I don't want to have nothing from September to March and I know if they ever did you all would be *****ing about how dare nascar make the season shorter.
 
kkfan91 said:
No you guys just don't get it, there is not an oversaturation. We need racing to run as it is now if not longer. Even when the stands aren't filled you draw as much as a football game with millions more watching. The season is good now why would you force me to watch sports I don't want to like the NCAA crap. Racing is fine the way it is keep your hands off!
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You are in the minority on this one.
 
Mopardh9 said:
You are in the minority on this one.
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And I don't care because frankly a shorter season is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard it will just drive NASCAR into the ground.
 
kkfan91 said:
And I don't care because frankly a shorter season is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard it will just drive NASCAR into the ground.
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Again, you're in the minority on this one. Why do you think the NFL season is so highly anticipated and succesfu when it gets going agin? yup, becasue they take a long break. Like almost everyone agrees (except you), there's such a thing as too much.
And, since you seem to think a whorter seaon would kill the sport, think about this. The crowds, the tv audience and the sponsors have all decreased since the time when the season started to expand to its current 36 race format. Just the opposite of what you seem to think, it's the longer season that, in the big picture, has been more dmamging to the sport than probably anything.
 
Or because we are a country of people entertained by guys in tights piling on top of each other:rolleyes:
 
Holy cow, we have plenty of people here who would make great CEOs of a company. I guess you all, and I'm included here, that little Brian France never listens to advisors, but do we know if the company known as NASCAR is losing money? If they are, someone will have to pay for it in the way of leadership. Even if though I wish it would happen, I don't think that the France family is heading down hill as far as money is concerned. Maybe it looks like it, but the sport is still on solid ground and although many believe that sponsorship has gone the way of the Edsel, there are still big money spenders out there willing to give their support. Just look at what happened to RPM.

We all have our opinions as to what NASCAR should do, but from experience, I've not seen much changes since I've been clamoring about how the sport has changed, as far as being televised etc. I've been saying the sport is on the down slope now for nearly 10 years, but it's still going strong. It's a good thing I wasn't in control!
 
buckaroo said:
Holy cow, we have plenty of people here who would make great CEOs of a company. I guess you all, and I'm included here, that little Brian France never listens to advisors, but do we know if the company known as NASCAR is losing money? If they are, someone will have to pay for it in the way of leadership. Even if though I wish it would happen, I don't think that the France family is heading down hill as far as money is concerned. Maybe it looks like it, but the sport is still on solid ground and although many believe that sponsorship has gone the way of the Edsel, there are still big money spenders out there willing to give their support. Just look at what happened to RPM.

We all have our opinions as to what NASCAR should do, but from experience, I've not seen much changes since I've been clamoring about how the sport has changed, as far as being televised etc. I've been saying the sport is on the down slope now for nearly 10 years, but it's still going strong. It's a good thing I wasn't in control!
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Buck I don't think they are losing money, I just think they aren't making as much!;)
 
It's not that the season is too long, or too short. I could care less about the Francecar side of it.
I just enjoy watching the drivers do SOMETHING.
Hell, I follow the Dakar like it was speedweeks, because I always hope Robbie does well. Even the rolex 24 is fun to watch.
It's refreshing to me to see cup drivers in a different light.
Once the obnoxious nascar booth roosters get crowing, it kind of kills it alittle bit for me.
MoMike
 
buckaroo said:
Well what is it then. If they make too much, they are greedy and now you are telling me they aren't making as much. Now I'm confused:cuckoo::cuckoo:
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Omg...lol i personally don't care how much they make, I really don't, more power to them if they make oodles of cash. My point is.... Nascar is still turning a profit, but....stands aren't full, sponsors pulling out, and Tv ratings down mean they aren't making as much as say in 2000-2005. If the trend continues another year like this, I would think Naascar will start taking drastic measures, because there comes a point when too much money lost is not a good thing, no matter if you are still making a profit. Does that make sense?;)
 
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