The season too long???

Is the season too long or has Na$car turned plain vanilla? Most drivers have the personality of a tea cup. IMHO of course.

There's no real rivalry like the DW and Sr battles on and off track, no Petty/Pearson etc.

The cars have evolved into extremely hi-tech machines. A dent the size of a tennis ball takes you from a top three to maybe finishing on the lead lap.

Until the economy picks up the stands won't be full and people are dropping cable due to cost.

With the exception of Bestwick and Punch the on air commentators are pathetic, again IMHO of course.


Buddy Baker and Benny Parsons were the best.:beerbang:
 
VaDirt said:
Why do you think the NFL season is so highly anticipated and succesfu when it gets going agin? yup, becasue they take a long break.
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That's why I think the NFL will be making a big mistake by going to an 18-game schedule.

Look at the NBA. Their season starts late October and ends in mid-April, then there are two months of playoffs through mid-June. That's too much. I have heard a number of long-time baseball fans say they want the MLB season to be shorter as well, especially if they expand the playoffs like they are about to do. We are becoming a society of quick fixes and then move on to another quick fix.
 
SST55 said:
\With the exception of Bestwick and Punch the on air commentators are pathetic, again IMHO of course.
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That's a huge part of it for me. Bestwick doesn't get on there and play the authority on autoracing. he calls it as it happens.
The know it alls are what make me nuts. I don't care what Larry Mac, and whats his name in the Chevy cut away car think........it's all very mind numbing and redundant to me..... how many times a year can we talk about what a track bar does??? Show me windtunnel numbers and how they put that data to work...
MoMike
 
Stewart Fan said:
So you dont think people in the sport should get any time with their family?
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How much time do you get with your family. Honestly?

I would venture to say that the cup drivers have a lot more time with their families than we do.
 
MoMike said:
That's a huge part of it for me. Bestwick doesn't get on there and play the authority on autoracing. he calls it as it happens.
The know it alls are what me nuts. I don't care what Larry Mac, and whats his name in the Chevy cut away car think........it's all very mind numbing and redundant to me..... how many times a year can we talk about what a track bar does??? Show me windtunnel numbers and how they put that data to work...
MoMike
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People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Caps would be nice
 
I enjoy a lot of the commentators. Agree ESPN doesn't utilize AB to his full potential.

I really enjoy most of the commentators in the sport. If we got the same DW on FOX that we get on Trackside, their coverage would improve by leaps and bounds. I really enjoy Mike Joy, he offers so much during any given broadcast.

The entire ESPN crew is fantastic. Rusty Wallace may be annoying at times, but he has walked the walk and knows what he's talking about.

The entire TNT crew, minus Adam Alexander, is also great.

ESPN got back to the fundamentals of covering races, and their product improved greatly.

THE biggest problem with fans' perspective of media coverage is they're told everyday how great coverage was in the 1990s (the commentary was good, but everything else not so much).

Then they're also told every day how terrible ESPN's coverage is today by a certain blogger with an anti-ESPN agenda. Instead of being glad about everything ESPN does show in a single race, they read what Daly says ESPN didn't do right and grab their pitchforks after they're told SPEED's coverage is so great (SPEED's Truck Series coverage is the worst -- focus on three drivers, very annoying announcers who SCREAM at you and in race advertisements for sponsors that are done intentionally during green flag racing instead of during 1 of 18 cautions).
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I enjoy a lot of the commentators. Agree ESPN doesn't utilize AB to his full potential.

I really enjoy most of the commentators in the sport. If we got the same DW on FOX that we get on Trackside, their coverage would improve by leaps and bounds. I really enjoy Mike Joy, he offers so much during any given broadcast.

The entire ESPN crew is fantastic. Rusty Wallace may be annoying at times, but he has walked the walk and knows what he's talking about.

The entire TNT crew, minus Adam Alexander, is also great.

ESPN got back to the fundamentals of covering races, and their product improved greatly.

THE biggest problem with fans' perspective of media coverage is they're told everyday how great coverage was in the 1990s (the commentary was good, but everything else not so much).

Then they're also told every day how terrible ESPN's coverage is today by a certain blogger with an anti-ESPN agenda. Instead of being glad about everything ESPN does show in a single race, they read what Daly says ESPN didn't do right and grab their pitchforks after they're told SPEED's coverage is so great (SPEED's Truck Series coverage is the worst -- focus on three drivers, very annoying announcers who SCREAM at you and in race advertisements for sponsors that are done intentionally during green flag racing instead of during 1 of 18 cautions).
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I completely disagree. ESPN is awful. How hard is it to leave the camera on the finish line at the end of a race? For ESPN, it's impossible. Joey Logano took out Montoya? I had no idea until I looked on the net.

Just two easy examples of how bad ESPN is.
 
I can stomach DW. Hammond, here and there, but I can do without McReynolds. And for whatever reason, this year Dale Jarrett started to get on my nerves in the NNS. Rusty has an interesting job, announcing the race without too much bias for or against his kid. He bites his tongue, more than I could if I were in his situation.
MoMike
 
MoMike said:
I can stomach DW. Hammond, here and there, but I can do without McReynolds. And for whatever reason, this year Dale Jarrett started to get on my nerves in the NNS. Rusty has an interesting job, announcing the race without too much bias for or against his kid. He bites his tongue, more than I could if I were in his situation.
MoMike
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Really??? DW. Wow, that is the only one I can't stand. He gets that awful squeaky voice. I noticed that Rusty never mentioned his kid also...It was always someone else, ESPECIALLY when he crashed :D
 
MoMike said:
I can stomach DW. Hammond, here and there, but I can do without McReynolds. And for whatever reason, this year Dale Jarrett started to get on my nerves in the NNS. Rusty has an interesting job, announcing the race without too much bias for or against his kid. He bites his tongue, more than I could if I were in his situation.
MoMike
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Like I said, the blogger who bashes ESPN constantly has an agenda. And then when Marty Reid pointed out how awful their coverage was when the same person oversaw things there (missed crashes used to be the norm), it was personal at that point. Since then, he's said the past few ESPN broadcasts were the worst in NASCAR history (hardly) and says ESPN treats him like a "second class citizen".
 
Bucky Badger said:
Really??? DW. Wow, that is the only one I can't stand. He gets that awful squeaky voice. I noticed that Rusty never mentioned his kid also...It was always someone else, ESPECIALLY when he crashed :D
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Yeah, now that you mention it, Rusty did have an excuse for his kid from time to time. Padding the incident for the sponsor maybe....LOL!!!!
Either way it'll sure feel good to unwind, and follow the Dakar, and Rolex 24, without the booth roosters spouting off every 10 seconds.
MoMike
 
MoMike said:
Yeah, now that you mention it, Rusty did have an excuse for his kid from time to time. Padding the incident for the sponsor maybe....LOL!!!!
Either way it'll sure feel good to unwind, and follow the Dakar, and Rolex 24, without the booth roosters spouting off every 10 seconds.
MoMike
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From what I recall the Rolex guys go crazy for a move in the first 5 minutes of a 24 hour race
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Like I said, the blogger who bashes ESPN constantly has an agenda. And then when Marty Reid pointed out how awful their coverage was when the same person oversaw things there (missed crashes used to be the norm), it was personal at that point. Since then, he's said the past few ESPN broadcasts were the worst in NASCAR history (hardly) and says ESPN treats him like a "second class citizen".
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You are over estimating his influence. I'd be surprised if Daly gets more than 50,000 hits for a race.
 
sloggie said:
You are over estimating his influence. I'd be surprised if Daly gets more than 50,000 hits for a race.
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It's not about influence. It's that he's the go-to guy for commentary about television coverage. Most people I talk to online and on the phone enjoy ESPN's coverage -- but you go to TDP and you see his complaints about ESPN followed by hundreds of complaints from his followers... really, his followers it's kind of like conservatives watching FOX News or liberals watching MSNBC. I enjoy going to TDP to see what's coming up on NASCAR TV and he usually has the NASCAR and ARCA TV schedules up. But he has never had and will never have anything nice to say about ESPN.

He has some influence, but the mainstream motorsports media sees his complaints and his followers complaints and think that is the norm in NASCAR media because there's nobody else out there saying otherwise until lately. Pete Pistone has always called him out (not by name) but he's really stepped it up lately, as have a couple others in the mainstream NASCAR media.

I used to like what he had to say... then he praised SPEED endlessly for their atrocious ARCA Racing Series Danica Patrick 200 coverage because they focused on Danica the ENTIRE race -- the very same thing he bashes ESPN for. And every week, he seemed to praise SPEED for the Truck Series coverage while most fans I talked to were complaining about it. Then he bashed ESPN endlessly -- no merit, just complaints about the camera zoom-out function not being used (actually it was).

The final straw for me was when he blew a gasket over ESPN not cutting off a college football overtime game to go to NASCAR Nationwide Series Countdown. I pointed out that many fans would've kirked out if the race was cut off for College Gameday. He started saying I have no idea what I'm talking about. And then everytime I said I was enjoying ESPN's coverage, he'd say I was delusional and that I have an agenda.:rolleyes:

Homestead, he complained that they were focusing too much on the Chasers. I told him to look at the 1992 Atlanta 500 and that it was the exact same thing -- he again went in to this "you don't know what you're talking about" shtick. Actually, I do, you can watch the entire race on Youtube for free.

The fact that his blog magically appeared when ESPN took over in 2007 is no coincidence either. I won't say why but I do know the reason -- simply put, he has an axe to grind with ESPN and I'm glad Pete Pistone and many others are starting to call him out.
 
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