This mornings Daytona Test Speeds

more changes for sat


UPDATE: NASCAR announced more changes for Sprint Cup Series teams after the second day of testing at Daytona International Speedway on Friday. Teams will receive a smaller restrictor plate with an opening of 29/32nd of an inch, down from 15/16ths, to decrease the amount of air intake to the engine. The radiator opening was shrunk from 3.5-by-18 inches to 2-by-20 inches, or from 63 square inches to 40. And the pressure relief valve is now 21 pounds per square inch from the 25psi they used Friday. The top speed in Friday's test session was set 90 minutes into the afternoon by Kurt Busch. He ran a 206.058-mph average lap working in tandem with his regular drafting partner, Regan Smith. Busch hit 210.9 mph down the backstretch, the fastest portion of the track.(Fox Sports)(1-13-2012)
 
From Fox Sports:

"Busch said the Phoenix Racing crew sent team owner James Finch a picture of the No. 51 on top of the scoring pylon and he was doing "backflips." The car itself was "good."

“It’s very stable rules-package-wise,” Busch said. “This is my first time driving Finch’s car, but it’s more stable than what I’ve had to drive in the past.”

Busch did not participate in the big drafting pack segments of the session because Phoenix Racing brought only one car to test at Daytona and did not have the time to make necessary modifications before the pack drafting began."
 
I know it's early and not everyone is showing what they have, but who would have thought Kurt and Regan Smith would be on top of the speed chart? And where are the Fords hiding? Not one in the top ten today?
 
Man there was some cars whistlin around the track today my heads still spinning.......or maybe someone slipped a bit to much rum in my rumncoke tonight :D
 
I know it's early and not everyone is showing what they have, but who would have thought Kurt and Regan Smith would be on top of the speed chart? And where are the Fords hiding? Not one in the top ten today?

Smith and Busch are buds, 78 is a full bells and whistles RCR car and you know what the 51 is. KB is kicking off his take no prisoners tour. He has a fast car... 2 and 22 might be in his way.
 
Smith and Busch are buds, 78 is a full bells and whistles RCR car and you know what the 51 is. KB is kicking off his take no prisoners tour. He has a fast car... 2 and 22 might be in his way.

When did the 78 switch from HMS?
 
I know it's early and not everyone is showing what they have, but who would have thought Kurt and Regan Smith would be on top of the speed chart? And where are the Fords hiding? Not one in the top ten today?

If you saw the interview with Jack yesterday , it was clear that he was lobbying for concessions from Nascar to make the Fords faster.Wouldn't put it past him to hold back a little to prove his point.;)
 
I'm liking what Mr Darby had to say :


"Darby had decent news for fans of pure speed. He said NASCAR's aerodynamicists' work to raise the cars' liftoff speed had erased the need to avoid the 200 mph barrier, particularly for race pace.

"We'll still end up over 200 miles an hour," Darby said. "We'd like to stay as close to that mark as we can. Probably the last four or five plate races we've been in a range of 200 to 203 miles an hour, maybe not a consistent, every lap speed, but we've seen those speeds.

"If we were to put a target mark, it would probably be right at 200 for our race speed, which the drivers like. Obviously the excitement level of 200 miles an hour is always present for the fans. But a lot of the work we've done is to try to close the [difference] between a conventional draft and a two-car push.

"And what's become very apparent very quickly is that as we get into a little bit of the higher speeds of racing that helps us greatly. Last year it was a seven-mile-an-hour difference. We've more than knocked that in half just in a couple of days. That's what we'd like to continue to work on."

Darby also eliminated any thought of 200-plus mph qualifying laps, saying any move in that direction would create more work and expense for teams. Darby reiterated his thought that Daytona 500 qualifying speeds would be between 194-195 mph


http://www.nascar.com/news/120113/preseason-thunder-competition-changes/index.html
 
I'm liking what Mr Darby had to say :


"If we were to put a target mark, it would probably be right at 200 for our race speed, which the drivers like. Obviously the excitement level of 200 miles an hour is always present for the fans. But a lot of the work we've done is to try to close the [difference] between a conventional draft and a two-car push.

"And what's become very apparent very quickly is that as we get into a little bit of the higher speeds of racing that helps us greatly. Last year it was a seven-mile-an-hour difference. We've more than knocked that in half just in a couple of days. That's what we'd like to continue to work on."

http://www.nascar.com/news/120113/preseason-thunder-competition-changes/index.html

Junior was saying that same thing yesterday . He felt that ,while the two car draft would likely win the race on the last lap, it wouldn't be necessary to use it just to keep pace during the race. The draft of the pack would be fast enough to stay with the leaders for the majority of the race.
 
Junior was saying that same thing yesterday . He felt that ,while the two car draft would likely win the race on the last lap, it wouldn't be necessary to use it just to keep pace during the race. The draft of the pack would be fast enough to stay with the leaders for the majority of the race.

That's true if they all decide to run in a pack but if some of the teams start to run in tandem while the rest run in the large pack, the two-car tandems will pull away. The speeds were much higher running in two's vs. the pack racing from what I watched yesterday.
 
Thats been the way to Win at the superspeedways in years past, Run in a pack all day staying in position to Win then get a breakaway at the end.
A Group of 2-3 cars have always been able to get away from the pack it's the 2 car draft all race long that fans are whining about.
 
But like Mr Darby said , they have been successful in reducing the differential substantially and there are more changes coming today.
 
If your watching this mornings practice speeds keep in mind we have a 8-10 headwind coming down the backstraight, it's effecting the single runs more than the tandems. Speeds are closer to Thurs than they seem so far.
 
If you saw the interview with Jack yesterday , it was clear that he was lobbying for concessions from Nascar to make the Fords faster.Wouldn't put it past him to hold back a little to prove his point.;)

Jack whining and crying for concessions? Not really newsworthy, he does this every year.
 
Yep, Jack is the biggest whiner in Nascar as far as owners go.
I'll agree with that, but we have to remember that all of the teams will claim that different manufacturers have an advantage. Jack is just more vocal than the others, but if you don't think that Penske with his Dodges don't complain, or that Gibbs never says that the Toyotas have an advantage. This is the sort of thing that has given us common templates and engines of the same design. There was a time when non-funded manufacture teams would change models depending on the race. Now days, other than changing the engine, a team would only have to change decals for the most part to change models.
 
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