StandOnIt
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maybe they did in your world. that was all they had to work with, it was a make it fit in Xfinity and fit right in with the other more doors in cup
StandOnIt
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I posted the rule changes months ago, the wind tunnel wasn't one of them
here ya go catch up. In the black, would be the carping area about the OSS that all teams had to deal with.
Chief among the handful of changes on the aerodynamic and technical front are the use of a common flat splitter and radiator/oil cooler for 2018.
The radiator/oil cooler move is something that is already in play at superspeedways. The common splitter, meanwhile, will be new for all venues.
“As we do that, some of the downforce will be removed from the car, so we will see a rearward shift in the balance of the car,” he said. “We estimate somewhere between two to two-and-a-half percentage points backward (approximately 100-120 pounds of downforce).
“So there will be an aerodynamic change. For that reason, we’ve decided to kind of leave things as they are because that will be something that teams will need to deal with. That’s basically the big thing on the non-superspeedway tracks as far as the aero package is concerned.”
In addition to the 100-120 pounds that will be gone with the common radiator and splitter changes, another 150 or so "is coming off due to the new officiating process and the tolerances we've agreed to,",” he said.
“When you look at it you say you don’t see a lot physically different with the car, but those two element themselves are a fairly significant change, which was another reason we decided just to kind of hold where we are.”
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
You're much more of a car guy than I am. I won't cross the street to get a closer look at any of the three.
I'm open to additional sources of auto buying info, keeping in mind reliability over the long run is my major criteria, followed closely by fuel mileage, comfort, and insurance costs.
StandOnIt
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so shortly after these changes comes the entirely new "Supra"? One can say coincidence, others can say here we go again.
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Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
Marketing, same reason the other manufacturers enter models that don't have anything in common with their consumer counterparts. IMSA would be a better fit if Toyota (or Ford or Chevy) were interested in demonstrating the capabilities of the production Supra (or Mustang or Camaro).
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
You couldn't run that today; the fans would scream that it had a wind instead of a spoiler.
StandOnIt
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Continential tire/IMSA has a series with Ford Mustang and the Camaro that races them.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
Gracias. I can barely keep up with Cup, X, Trucks, Indy, and WeatheTech. I'm barely familiar with the IMSA lower-tier series.Continential tire/IMSA has a series with Ford Mustang and the Camaro that races them.
Maybe Toyota doesn't feel there's any bang for their motorsports marketing buck in the US outside NASCAR.
StandOnIt
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I won't be surprised if the BMW side of the car races in that series.
Revman
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Not unless there is a new rule package which caters to Toyota.
No question. Motorsports are pretty bangless outside of NASCAR. This would be why Toyota left IndyCar to join NASCAR.
I posted the rule changes months ago, the wind tunnel wasn't one of them
here ya go catch up. In the black, would be the carping area about the OSS that all teams had to deal with.
Chief among the handful of changes on the aerodynamic and technical front are the use of a common flat splitter and radiator/oil cooler for 2018.
The radiator/oil cooler move is something that is already in play at superspeedways. The common splitter, meanwhile, will be new for all venues.
“As we do that, some of the downforce will be removed from the car, so we will see a rearward shift in the balance of the car,” he said. “We estimate somewhere between two to two-and-a-half percentage points backward (approximately 100-120 pounds of downforce).
“So there will be an aerodynamic change. For that reason, we’ve decided to kind of leave things as they are because that will be something that teams will need to deal with. That’s basically the big thing on the non-superspeedway tracks as far as the aero package is concerned.”
In addition to the 100-120 pounds that will be gone with the common radiator and splitter changes, another 150 or so "is coming off due to the new officiating process and the tolerances we've agreed to,",” he said.
“When you look at it you say you don’t see a lot physically different with the car, but those two element themselves are a fairly significant change, which was another reason we decided just to kind of hold where we are.”
Yeah, I don't think you would have be so concerned about the wind tunnel last August had you known that NASCAR would take care of everything for you.
Nice post, but you are operating on the assumption that all of the manufacturers start with the same baseline. Ford sucked. Toyota exploited the splitter. Take the splitter away. Ford good. Toyota 6 points up in the Manufacturers Standings because TRD is amazing. I'm good with it, but I don't like how Ford just sat on their asses, and Toyota had to go to work again. Brad got his help.
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StandOnIt
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I'm not operating on any assumptions bud, there it is in black and white. It's a rule change doesn't have anything to do with a wind tunnel.
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You didn't think that last year.....