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The "good old days" ??
I think it ended in the early 90's. Maybe someone knows for sure.
Tires--What the hell is Goodyear to do?
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I think it ended in the early 90's. Maybe someone knows for sure.
Goodyear director of racing Greg Stucker didn't have a definitive answer during Sunday's race but sure seemed to be pointing the finger at the race teams.
''We're trying to figure out exactly what the issue is with the teams. Obviously, a race like this in the Chase, everybody is kind of up on the wheel and really pushing the envelope..."
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Well no sh_t Greg...it's not supposed to be a Founder's Day Parade...it's a race.
''We're trying to figure out exactly what the issue is with the teams. Obviously, a race like this in the Chase, everybody is kind of up on the wheel and really pushing the envelope..."
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Well no sh_t Greg...it's not supposed to be a Founder's Day Parade...it's a race.
Drivers that understood their setup, how it related to the tire and the way you had to drive the car to keep the right front, did not have tire issues.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Kez isn't known as a tire grinder. Don't know about Jr.
I think Brad hit a piece of a broken Chevrolet.
StandOnIt
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Kinda ironic that two drivers who I think are constantly over working their adjustments on the car had troubles. I don't know how many races Kahne will start out like a flash, and every time he pits he comes out on the track and runs worse. Jr is another one who ironically in a pre race interview was talking about how hard the tire had to be with the speeds they run at the track. Jr is always overworking the car setup IMO, it has to be perfect to his liking..but he hits the wall and blames the tire. Kez is the only one that I thought was unusual for him to have problems. I think the tires were good enough if you were paying attention, but not dummy proof.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
lol Kind of hard to miss those lately.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
It's as if Goodyear didn't expect a race.
Bucky Badger
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The tire fiasco a few years back at Indy was a tire issue. Yesterday, I think the tire issues were a result of setups and aggressive driving.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Why the hell does nascar let the drivers be aggressive?
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
We had the rock tires the drivers wanted for several years and the racing was horrendous. I enjoy tire management races.
Maybe I should've said overly-aggressive driving.
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The "good old days" ??
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The "good old days" ??
Not really what I think of as a tire management race. I think tire wear = slower speeds, not wadded up cars halfway thru a run.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I was speaking in general - in terms to the discussion as a whole. I didn't watch yesterday's race. Was celebrating Christmas.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
How was it? Were there a lot of commercials?
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
It was great until the 10 to go caution interrupted a thrilling battle between Peyton Sellers and Mike Darne. The final 10 laps were a wreckfest.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
At least the tires held up.
10 to go caution is total BS. Who won?
10 to go caution is total BS. Who won?
StandOnIt
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The track surface at Indy caused a big part of the tire issue. It has been diamond ground in 02. The F-1's wouldn't even race on it...bunch of sissies.
Formula One and Michelin learned that at Indy in 2005, when three-fourths of the field refused to compete in the United States Grand Prix because of tire concerns. Indy took a hit, the race never recovered and F1 isn't currently racing in this country.
Old article, they are back on a brand new shiny track in texas.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
The track surface at Indy caused a big part of the tire issue. It has been diamond ground in 02. The F-1's wouldn't even race on it...bunch of sissies.
Formula One and Michelin learned that at Indy in 2005, when three-fourths of the field refused to compete in the United States Grand Prix because of tire concerns. Indy took a hit, the race never recovered and F1 isn't currently racing in this country.
Old article, they are back on a brand new shiny track in texas.
How dare the driver blame the tires! Michelin needs a new contract to avoid public tire issues in the future.
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The "good old days" ??
That's how Russian roulette works.
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they did that years ago, it was worst then today. a tire war is not a good thing.
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I see Goodyear is no longer a client of Brian's marketing company, Brand sense partners.
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Thanks. That's one of the few things you've posted that I can actually understand.
bless ya little heart fb.........ain't your fault .
lack of readin comprehension is quite common in usa.
try ta concentrate on ya good qualities !
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The "good old days" ??
bless ya little heart fb.........ain't your fault .
lack of readin comprehension is quite common in usa.
try ta concentrate on ya good qualities !
You got it man. I'll buy large quantities of good concentrate first thing tomorrow morning.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Tires wars are NEVER about building safer tires . They are about building faster tires .Safety is a never a consideration.
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The "good old days" ??
I see the current theory is the cars went 1.5 mph faster than Goodyear expected.
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Wait...you mean......Teams give up safety for speed?
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
That could make a big differenceI see the current theory is the cars went 1.5 mph faster than Goodyear expected.
dpkimmel2001
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Recap of the so-called 'tire problem' at Kansas: 41 had fender rub 1 - flat stopped tire eetering pit road 4, 20, 5 - all tires were UP
88 + 2 issues are only unresolved ones from Sunday .. Goodyear waiting to get tires and send for analysis.
So, the enormous 'tire problem' comes down to exactly TWO teams (out of 43)
Recap..... Get it?
Recap of the so-called 'tire problem' at Kansas: 41 had fender rub 1 - flat stopped tire eetering pit road 4, 20, 5 - all tires were UP
88 + 2 issues are only unresolved ones from Sunday .. Goodyear waiting to get tires and send for analysis.
So, the enormous 'tire problem' comes down to exactly TWO teams (out of 43)
Recap..... Get it?
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Yep. They also give up safety for cash . Tire manufacturers have been known to pay owners to run their brand .
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Crap. We dont want that.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
We don't need that . It's not necessary . Goodyear works constantly testing tires with the teams . S..t happens , then they try and fix it .
StandOnIt
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@jim_utter
Recap of the so-called 'tire problem' at Kansas: 41 had fender rub 1 - flat stopped tire eetering pit road 4, 20, 5 - all tires were UP
88 + 2 issues are only unresolved ones from Sunday .. Goodyear waiting to get tires and send for analysis.
So, the enormous 'tire problem' comes down to exactly TWO teams (out of 43)
Recap..... Get it?
Probably close to 700, 800 tires used in the race, with a failure rate of 2, many manufactures can't come close to that quality control number.