Tony Or Ryan

Send him to anger maagment

  • Yes......he is geting like tony last year just not hiting yet

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  • No.......just blowing off steam from early race wrecks

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Tony Went to anger classes last year and has cooled down this year.

Newman has had the temper so far, with dega when he said "i could be better dont you think?" and the last week end where hye stuck his hand up in the air.

one of my buddys said "hell they sent tony last year need to send newman this year"

so has a lot more ppl i have talked to.

what do ya'll think.
 
I said No. I am a fan of Ryan and see that he was mad simply because he knows that he could do better, and like at California, where Steve wrecked him and his car on the 1st lap, he might have won that day. Who knows he might have won at Talledega as well...I know he will cool down as soon as he starts to have some more good runs. His is focused, unlike the young Dale Jr. and is determined to do well.
 
I don't think Tony went to anger management "classes" per say but I could be wrong. Tony has done a good job at controlling himself as of late. Ryan is not a stupid young man. The total opposite. He has the drive and talent to be a champion. And I expect he will be someday. No one here can understand what it's like to have your hopes taken away in 1 lap or less. The "highs" must be great but the "lows" of racing must be really hard.

These drivers are human beings. Just like you and I. Keep that in mind.
 
Originally posted by Highboy90@Apr 29 2003, 09:25 PM
I don't think Tony went to anger management "classes" per say but I could be wrong. Tony has done a good job at controlling himself as of late. Ryan is not a stupid young man. The total opposite. He has the drive and talent to be a champion. And I expect he will be someday. No one here can understand what it's like to have your hopes taken away in 1 lap or less. The "highs" must be great but the "lows" of racing must be really hard.

These drivers are human beings. Just like you and I. Keep that in mind.
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Thats a good but often forgotten point Highboy....just look how we fans react when 'our' driver has a bad day.Now multiply that by about a hundred!I am surprised these guys manage to stay composed as well as they do!
 
Excellent point HB.
I'll tell you back when I was racing, I could've made Tony look like a poster child last year, and I was one of the cooler heads in the pits. lol

If I had a driver, and he didn't get emotional in events like those occuring to Tony last year, and Ryan. I'd fire them. I want someone with passion driving my car
 
Oh, please,

Not even the same. First, people criticized Newman by saying he is unemotional, then after a crash he answers an idiot reporter's question with an off the cuff response - on his way to the Infield Care Center - after a wreck - and all of a sudden he has a "temper?" Did he yell? Did he throw things? Did he use physical force? No. Tony Stewart, when approached by the media types, has in the past become physical, at least toward the equipment. At Fontana, rather than trying to get camera time and blame someone for the wreck during an interview, Newman waived off the camera, buckled down and got under the car to help hammer out the damage. What's the old saying, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. I probably have more of a temper than Newman ever will, just sitting in a half-hour of traffic on my way to work in the morning. Newman and Stewart are different people and they handle their disappointment in very different ways, there is no real basis for a comparison.
 
Hi Mobara, and welcome.

I, for one, don't understand where this question is coming from either.

That fans want their drivers to be these spit-shined sponsor-whores really disappoints me.

Gone are the days of the Alisons and Cale.

Ring in the era of sponsor influenced governing bodies and pretty-boy hipsters.
 
Thx for the welcome and you are completely right.

It would be very dull if everyone was a safe, bland sponsor-puppet or a touchy-feely member of a Dr. Phil audience.

Also Eagle1 makes a good point, without any passion where is the drive to win?
 
Were this 10 to 15 years ago I would say that without the passion one would go winless. However, passion now gets you booed and marginalized when your talent demands otherwise. Talent means nothing in this sport anymore. And it's incredibly depressing.
 
Of course a driver who got wrecked on the first lap is going to be a little bit angry. There seems to be a double standard for drivers who show emotion, some get labeled as hotheads, for others the incident is forgotten one week later.
 
i am a fan of Newman. I am NOT saying he needs to go. i dont rember voteing for this, i just wanted to know what orther ppl thought because allthe ppl i have talked to latly said that he needs to calm down a little.

i hope i did not make anyone mad, and if i did :cheers: beers on me. B)
 
I would say that Tony still has the worst temper. He has just learn to control it better through the classes. I would say that Kurt Busch has threw bigger fits that Newman. :D
 
I can't believe the ulta-PC world we live in when we demand that NASCAR drivers take "special classes" to "control" their tempers.

Sad.
 
PASSION


That is all that it is. This is the main reason I like Newman. Plus the fact that he got under the car himself. He went to school to be an engineer to be a better driver.

He has shown different sides to interviews depending on his mood. I love the fact that he says whats on his mind. And with time he will learn how to do this in not as an abrasive way.

But Please do not loose that Passion. Those with passion will allows be better than those without.
 
Why is that Ryan Newman gets pissy after a wreck and it's passion, Tony does it and it's temper. Not directed at you Dino, but in general.
 
Those that understand racing, and aren't influenced by the FOX telecasters who are simply there to push NASCAR's Jr agenda, understand that what Tony has is called passion.

The rest just care about carrying on some romantic legacy. True talent and real drivers be damned.
 
Originally posted by DeeDee@Apr 30 2003, 08:38 AM
Why is that Ryan Newman gets pissy after a wreck and it's passion, Tony does it and it's temper.
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That is a good question. I think a lot of it is all perception of fans and the media. and the media can really spin that perception. The phrase "taken out of context".

I love the passion of Tony as well. However, there were a couple of times where he directed his "disappointment" the wrong way. I did not percieve the 2 recent events by newman as directed to the reporter personally, where as some of Tony's seem to be personally at that reporter. Of course I only saw Tony's events after there was a big brew ha ha over them (media spin). I saw Ryan's at the time they happened.
 
FYI - Here are comments from the FOX website by Steve Byrnes who went to the garage after Newman's wreck.

<span style='color:blue'>"For three consecutive weeks, he was knocked out of a race by incidents that were out of his control.To make matters worse, he has had one of the fastest -- if not the fastest -- car in practice all three weeks. He knew he had a great race car at Fontana so he began to hammer out his fenders in the garage to try to get back out on the track. I was just doing my job and asking what a Ryan Newman fan would want to know when I walked up to him on the NASCAR on FOX telecast and tried to find out:

What happened?
Can he get back out there?
If he can, how long is it going to take?

It was sort of a damage report. He didn't want to talk, and that's his right. It didn't bother me personally. I'm doing my job. I try to put myself in his position. Would I have wanted to do an interview right then? Absolutely not."</span>

Byrnes backed off when it was apparent that an interview wasn't going anywhere....
 
Originally posted by Mobara@Apr 30 2003, 10:40 AM
FYI - Here are comments from the FOX website by Steve Byrnes who went to the garage after Newman's wreck.

"For three consecutive weeks, he was knocked out of a race by incidents that were out of his control.To make matters worse, he has had one of the fastest -- if not the fastest -- car in practice all three weeks. He knew he had a great race car at Fontana so he began to hammer out his fenders in the garage to try to get back out on the track. I was just doing my job and asking what a Ryan Newman fan would want to know when I walked up to him on the NASCAR on FOX telecast and tried to find out:

What happened?
Can he get back out there?
If he can, how long is it going to take?

It was sort of a damage report. He didn't want to talk, and that's his right. It didn't bother me personally. I'm doing my job. I try to put myself in his position. Would I have wanted to do an interview right then? Absolutely not."

Byrnes backed off when it was apparent that an interview wasn't going anywhere....
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Thats about the way It should be...
 
Originally posted by redrock@Apr 30 2003, 05:03 PM
Ryan's got more class than Tony has in his big toe!
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Yeah okay...Whatever...
 
Originally posted by ward22+Apr 30 2003, 03:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ward22 @ Apr 30 2003, 03:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Mobara@Apr 30 2003, 10:40 AM
FYI - Here are comments from the FOX website by Steve Byrnes who went to the garage after Newman's wreck.&nbsp;

"For three consecutive weeks, he was knocked out of a race by incidents that were out of his control.To make matters worse, he has had one of the fastest -- if not the fastest -- car in practice all three weeks. He knew he had a great race car at Fontana so he began to hammer out his fenders in the garage to try to get back out on the track. I was just doing my job and asking what a Ryan Newman fan would want to know when I walked up to him on the NASCAR on FOX telecast and tried to find out:

What happened?
Can he get back out there?
If he can, how long is it going to take?

It was sort of a damage report. He didn't want to talk, and that's his right. It didn't bother me personally. I'm doing my job. I try to put myself in his position. Would I have wanted to do an interview right then? Absolutely not."

Byrnes backed off when it was apparent that an interview wasn't going anywhere....
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Thats about the way It should be... [/b][/quote]
Damn straight..
 
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