Tony Stewart takes out Kasey Kahne Again!

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This guy is killing me! I hope Mayfield gets close enough to give him a taste of hes own medicine. If it was any other driver it be differant a differant story and would beleive the story he tried to stop or slow down but not Tony

Sorry I had to rant.

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BY400, remember rule number one, no driver bashing so be careful.
 
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It looked to me that kahne got loose. Tony just happened to be there. Kasey even said in a post interview that he got loose and started to spin... Tony was just there.
 
My bad sorry I must of missed that rule. :)
I only wish someone would tell Tony that rule too! :D
 
WideOpenPhoto I dont think so. Im not sure why Kasey even said that to behonest. From viewing the replay it was clear Tony spun him out. I think mybe Kasy might have spun a tire loosing tracking then being hit maybe is what hes talking about, not sure.

I was just upset to see Kasey get put out of the race being so cool headed with such great driving skills to have this happen again!
 
That could have been ANY car behind Kasey and the result would have been the same! Unfortunately it just happened to be Tony Stewart.
 
Originally posted by Brickyard_400@Jul 11 2004, 05:09 PM
WideOpenPhoto I dont think so. Im not sure why Kasey even said that to behonest. From viewing the replay it was clear Tony spun him out. I think mybe Kasy might have spun a tire loosing tracking then being hit maybe is what hes talking about, not sure.

I was just upset to see Kasey get put out of the race being so cool headed with such great driving skills to have this happen again!
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you were riding shotgun in Kasey's car... My bad.
 
Originally posted by majestyx@Jul 11 2004, 05:09 PM
That could have been ANY car behind Kasey and the result would have been the same! Unfortunately it just happened to be Tony Stewart.
Exactly.
 
Originally posted by bowtie@Jul 11 2004, 04:42 PM
BY400, remember rule number one, no driver bashing so be careful.
I didn't see him or her call Tony a jacka$$ or anything. I didn't know we couldn't express our disspleasure with other drivers.

Why do we have to put up with Tony wrecking drivers week after week?
 
Like i said in the other thread i like Tony ...always have ...to me he just hasn't used good judgement all season.
 
Originally posted by racerx11+Jul 11 2004, 05:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (racerx11 @ Jul 11 2004, 05:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bowtie@Jul 11 2004, 04:42 PM
BY400, remember rule number one, no driver bashing so be careful.
I didn't see him or her call Tony a jacka$$ or anything. I didn't know we couldn't express our disspleasure with other drivers.

Why do we have to put up with Tony wrecking drivers week after week? [/b][/quote]
beacuse I edited what he put in there............ :angry:
 
Originally posted by bowtie+Jul 11 2004, 05:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bowtie @ Jul 11 2004, 05:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -racerx11@Jul 11 2004, 05:24 PM
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@Jul 11 2004, 04:42 PM
BY400, remember rule number one, no driver bashing so be careful.

I didn't see him or her call Tony a jacka$$ or anything. I didn't know we couldn't express our disspleasure with other drivers.

Why do we have to put up with Tony wrecking drivers week after week?
beacuse I edited what he put in there............ :angry: [/b][/quote]
Well then when a post is edited for content by a mod, maybe it should say so. When I edit my posts, it lets everyone know.
 
Originally posted by racerx11@Jul 11 2004, 05:50 PM
Well then when a post is edited for content by a mod, maybe it should say so. When I edit my posts, it lets everyone know.
I actually thought it would do that when I edited it, my bad, it won't happen again.
 
That could have been ANY car behind Kasey and the result would have been the same! Unfortunately it just happened to be Tony Stewart.

Exactly......Imagine that.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you were riding shotgun in Kasey's car... My bad.

I think were all were its called CAM view, there mounted inside the car incase you didnt know. :dual9mm:
 
Seriously sorry to start another Tony thread. I was just pist at the time and of course Tony was Involved.

bowtie, feel free to lock this thread if needed and thanks for anyone taking my side and feeling it was uncalled for also. :)
 
Originally posted by Brickyard_400@Jul 11 2004, 06:01 PM
bowtie, feel free to lock this thread if needed and thanks for anyone taking my side and feeling it was uncalled for also. :)
hey man, no need to lock it and I don't mind you ranting either, I just edited the Tony is a ..... part because of no driver bashing. I thought when I edited it it would say so and it didn't. I did not realize that until Maj. brought it to my attention. Nobody hurt.
 
As Wally stated from the booth, Tony had 4 new tires and Khane only had 2 new tires. It happened exactly the same way with Dally and he took out Jeff Gordon.
When Khane was being interview after the race he first said that he got loose going into the turn.
If it was anyone else who was behind Khane the end result would be the same and we wouldn't be talking about it now.
 
I think the pit reporter that interviewed Kasey after the fact ought to have his ass kicked so hard it goes to his head. There was NO reason to ask was this a racing thing or was it personal. It is reasons like that Tony stays in the attention the media.

Example #2: Dumb ass Benny Parsons who cannot see a damn thing makes the immedite comment that it looked like Tony intentionally took out John Andretti. Five minutes later he says "oh it was the fact he got loose"

These guys are just LOOKIN for a reason to bash Tony.

The replay showed he got loose, I agree that the same thing would have happened if there was another car behind him.
 
Originally posted by racerx11@Jul 11 2004, 07:22 PM
Don't you mean Robbie taking out Andretti?
I think he's talking about the time Stewart and Andretti touched into one of the corners.
 
When did Robbie take out Andretti? Robbie took out Jeff Green. Tony didn't take out Andretti, but they did slap doors when he got loose.
 
Well stated Wolfcub..........the people in the booth and interviewing cause most of the problems with their constant search for controversy. And then the fans jump in and the fans don't know squat about what really happened. A camera shot from a half or more mile away does not tell the whole story. I saw Tony involved in two incidents today...........both sure looked like racing things. Until it is proven otherwise, then I think wise people would be well served to keep their mouthes shut. That goes double for Wally and Benny today.
 
Originally posted by WideOpenPhoto@Jul 11 2004, 07:27 PM
bout time you showed up Jmac
I just got off work :cheers: But I was checkin from time to time B)
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jul 11 2004, 06:27 PM
Well stated Wolfcub..........the people in the booth and interviewing cause most of the problems with their constant search for controversy. And then the fans jump in and the fans don't know squat about what really happened. A camera shot from a half or more mile away does not tell the whole story. I saw Tony involved in two incidents today...........both sure looked like racing things. Until it is proven otherwise, then I think wise people would be well served to keep their mouthes shut. That goes double for Wally and Benny today.
Thanks DE. I just get tired of hearing how BAD Tony is when no one takes the time to get the whole story, just like with today's race.
 
Originally posted by majestyx+Jul 11 2004, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (majestyx @ Jul 11 2004, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--racerx11@Jul 11 2004, 06:22 PM
Don't you mean Robbie taking out Andretti?
That was Jeff Green in the 43, not John Andretti. ;) [/b][/quote]
OOOOoooooooooppps! Thanks.
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jul 11 2004, 11:27 PM
Well stated Wolfcub..........the people in the booth and interviewing cause most of the problems with their constant search for controversy. And then the fans jump in and the fans don't know squat about what really happened. A camera shot from a half or more mile away does not tell the whole story. I saw Tony involved in two incidents today...........both sure looked like racing things. Until it is proven otherwise, then I think wise people would be well served to keep their mouthes shut. That goes double for Wally and Benny today.
People are making half-hearted excuses for Tony saying those who criticize Tony do not know the entire story. The whole, entire, complete, unbiased, uncontroversial story is, PATIENCE !!

Want proof ??? Watch the rerun and what you see is Kahne staying an even distance behind the lead car and the car on his left side. What you do see, from every angle and distance, is Stewart jump to the outside and pass Marlin, coming up too quickly on Kahne. PATIENCE would have avoided that wreck even if Khane had slowed.

Proof came in a later restart with Stewart behind a car that missed a shift showing how Stewart used patience and avoided a wreck like the one he had already caused with Khane.

When Tony wrecked Khane, it was because he was trying to win the race before the halfway point of the race. He knows better. PATIENCE !!!!!

The guys in the booth picking on Tony?? First it was Darrell and Larry and now it is Wally and Benny. Gee, I wonder why ??
Who has caused more wrecks this year than Tony ?? Find all the reasons in the world to blame someone or something else but Tony's record since Daytona speaks for itself. Look at the real reason they have used him for fodder. It isn't 100% because several different commentators and others in the media have created the situation. Several other drivers are fed up. They like Stewart as a person but they are voicing their opinon to NASCAR about his on-track actions.

Tony's Chicago victory was a win in dominating fashion, fair and square. The victory would have been a lot nicer if he wasn't involved in those stinky, avoidable, on-track incidents.

For the sake of the other competitors, I hope Stewart gets his act together by the next race.

To Wolfcub, the pit reporter you asked about is Marty Snider. Snider is the worse of the worse when it comes to stirring the pot and trying his absolute best to make the pot boil. If someone thinks there is a worse NASCAR reporter, it would be interesting to know who it might be. Snider's style and tactics are lower than wale crap in the deepest part of the ocean. Please do not ask how I really feel since I worked thirty minutes to clean up this opinion.
 
I saw Kasey slowing. I also saw Tony slowing. I then saw Kasey slow even more.......and possibly a slight wiggle (as if he spun the tires or missed a shift). Tony was right there when that happened........I mean like a foot or less. He tapped him.......and would wager he tapped him with his foot on the brake. Avoidable? Absolutely. Tony could have stayed high and hit the wall himself. Tony could have slowed more and been run over by Marlin. Tony could have been real patient and just stayed in line and not passed Sterling at all. Of course it was avoidable. Every incident on the track could have been avoided...........IF. Tony wanted to get to the front.........he did what he thought would get him there the quickest. Armchair quarterbacking is the term used in another sport.
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jul 11 2004, 08:22 PM
I saw Kasey slowing. I also saw Tony slowing. I then saw Kasey slow even more.......and possibly a slight wiggle (as if he spun the tires or missed a shift). Tony was right there when that happened........I mean like a foot or less. He tapped him.......and would wager he tapped him with his foot on the brake. Avoidable? Absolutely. Tony could have stayed high and hit the wall himself. Tony could have slowed more and been run over by Marlin. Tony could have been real patient and just stayed in line and not passed Sterling at all. Of course it was avoidable. Every incident on the track could have been avoided...........IF. Tony wanted to get to the front.........he did what he thought would get him there the quickest. Armchair quarterbacking is the term used in another sport.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Tony had NO business trying to get to the front, How dare he!! People!! This is racing, that is what you get paid to do.

I've rewatched this a couple of times on Tivo and ran through the incident in slo-motion a couple of times. Kasey's car did wiggle, he was loose before Tony got into him and yoy could clearly see the nose of Tony's car drop as he hit the brakes. Cry and complain all you want, those are the facts. People trying to compare driving down a country lane to on track racing is utterly rediculas.
 
Originally posted by Eagle1+Jul 12 2004, 01:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Eagle1 @ Jul 12 2004, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--DE_Wrangler_2@Jul 11 2004, 08:22 PM
I saw Kasey slowing.  I also saw Tony slowing.  I then saw Kasey slow even more.......and possibly a slight wiggle (as if he spun the tires or missed a shift).  Tony was right there when that happened........I mean like a foot or less.  He tapped him.......and would wager he tapped him with his foot on the brake.  Avoidable?  Absolutely.  Tony could have stayed high and hit the wall himself.  Tony could have slowed more and been run over by Marlin.  Tony could have been real patient and just stayed in line and not passed Sterling at all.  Of course it was avoidable.  Every incident on the track could have been avoided...........IF.  Tony wanted to get to the front.........he did what he thought would get him there the quickest.  Armchair quarterbacking is the term used in another sport.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Tony had NO business trying to get to the front, How dare he!! People!! This is racing, that is what you get paid to do.

I've rewatched this a couple of times on Tivo and ran through the incident in slo-motion a couple of times. Kasey's car did wiggle, he was loose before Tony got into him and yoy could clearly see the nose of Tony's car drop as he hit the brakes. Cry and complain all you want, those are the facts. People trying to compare driving down a country lane to on track racing is utterly rediculas. [/b][/quote]
Gotta somewhat agree with both assesments as the name of the game is, RACING. And guys with the right game plan know the race is not won on a restart while running in the top five with more than half the race left.

Tony had the fastest car. Proved it all day long.

Impatience is the same reason Tony has caused and been involved in so many wrecks this year. Even wrecks where he had his foot on the brake. He put himself in those positions.

His actions can be justified in any way and with whatever logic any person wishes to try to make it sound right, but Tony was just plain, out and out, impatient.

He later avoided another wreck under similar circumstances after being reminded what his impatience could do. Unfortunately he was reminded of the lesson after he caused the wreck that took out several other teams.

Call it Monday morning quarterbacking or being an arm chair know-it-all. No matter how it is labeled, and if considered racing, it isn't smart racing unless it is within the final thirty or forty laps.
 
Just as his absolute guilt can be justified by those that so choose. There have been many incidents this year not all involving Tony. Many involving the same people though and it seems no one cares to point them out everytime one of them drivers are involved in another incident. They don't count unless they involve Tony, and it doesn't even m atter what the incident is, circumstances involved or anything.

You're entitled to your opinion, I don't have to agree with it, I'm entitled to mine as well.
 
Originally posted by Eagle1@Jul 11 2004, 09:29 PM


I've rewatched this a couple of times on Tivo and ran through the incident in slo-motion a couple of times. Kasey's car did wiggle, he was loose before Tony got into him
You're right and that's exactly what Kasey Khane said during his interview after the crash, that yes he did get loose going into the turn. So people leave it to rest.
 
Did Robby Gordon boot someone out of the way today 2?? B) OOO HE SURE DID..... :angry:
 
Of course he did, but nobody's talking about that. He got impatient (again) and wreck Jeff Green.
 
One thing that comes to my mind every time someone invokes the "patience" argument. Those patient drivers who hang back and exercise extreme patience throughout a race are often caught up in someone else's mess. Bobby Labonte, Dale Jarrett, Mark Martin, Terry Labonte, Jeff Burton, and the most stricking.....Ward Burton. Being in front is the best place to be should something happen on the track.......though there are a few exceptions with lapped cars. Sure the patient drivers are the nice guys....they are seldom the cause of incidents on the track. But look how many of those drivers are in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's driving style. I say don't intentionally wreck someone...........but don't hold back either. Tony wanted to win. He could have been patient and still won unless he got caught up is someone else's incident. During a race the driver has no idea when or if someone is going to have a problem and take him out.........he's safest out front. And if he can be out front, he should be out front........not lolly gagging back in the pack being patient. Tony did nothing wrong in my opinion. Kasey had a problem and Tony got involved..........and Tony being involved is just ammunition to my thoughts on the driver being out front as soon as he can. Patience is a new buzz word in NASCAR. At least the way it is thrown around for the last few years.
 
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