Truck RACE thread ---- Canada

It was definitely a dump and run. As Kaz put it, "I don't think he even hit the brakes". Austin hit him at full coasting speed, the nose never dipped.

But to Austin's credit, even though he said he didn't think twice about it, he at least did it in a corner that he knew it wouldn't hurt Kaz's chances for a top ten (he said he factored that part in). Granted he almost backed it into the wall, he got right back in line in 3rd.
 
Kiante said:
What have we said about blocking for years?

I'm happy for Cindric, it could have been cleaner, but at the end of the day he win and wanted it bad enough. Cindric will learn as he gets older.
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Eh, Kaz took the normal line through there, don't know what else he could've done. Austin knew Kaz didn't have tires in good shape and admitted as much in the interview. Yet he turns the guy around anyways.
 
Lmao Kaz and Gragson are silver spoons too. So is half the field for that matter. Kid has won in ARCA, K&N, GRC Lites, and now trucks. I'd say he has at least a little bit of talent
 
DaBiff1618 said:
Lmao Kaz and Gragson are silver spoons too. So is half the field for that matter. Kid has won in ARCA, K&N, GRC Lites, and now trucks. I'd say he has at least a little bit of talent
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Sure, but enough to get the opportunities he has, I don't think so. That's the way it goes in racing though, more prominently now than ever.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Honestly I hate seeing the same sh!t every year. Some daddy's boy wrecking someone for the win. I guess NASCAR's okay with this race just being a free-for-all.

Cindric had the best truck by far, he's the "best" road course racer out there, he has half a lap left, and he just drives it in way deep and plows right through Grala. A really weak move, I just can't respect it.
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So, you wanted Chokliani in one of the trucks then.:p

Seriously though, that's what was said earlier. Its the same thing that happens every year at that track, its getting to be too common. Blaney is the only one that really pulled a win off the "right way".

Cindric really isn't a bad driver, dude. Thats what happens when you're father is Penske's right hand man. Austin has improved a lot, he's not that bad at all, I just hope they do not blow off Briscoe and focus on Cindric. That would be terrible with BKR shutting down.
 
Kiante said:
So, you wanted Chokliani in one of the trucks then.:p

Seriously though, that's what was said earlier. Its the same thing that happens every year at that track, its getting to be too common. Blaney is the only one that really pulled a win off the "right way".

Cindric really isn't a bad driver, dude. Thats what happens when you're father is Penske's right hand man. Austin has improved a lot, he's not that bad at all, I just hope they do not blow off Briscoe and focus on Cindric. That would be terrible with BKR shutting down.
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I will say it wasn't as bad as Chase not even attempting to make the last turn, or whatever the hell you call JHN's stunt against Custer. But it's not something I can respect.

I don't think he's bad but I don't think he's good either. Not good enough, at least for what kind of rides he'll probably wind up in. He's achieved some things here and there but has had a few lackluster campaigns in a few series too, which should also count for something. And it sucks that he'll probably take Briscoe's place at Penske because I'm not sure RFR and SHR have Xfinity programs that can really showcase his ability, whereas we all know what kind of advantage being in the #22 is.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I will say it wasn't as bad as Chase not even attempting to make the last turn, or whatever the hell you call JHN's stunt against Custer. But it's not something I can respect.

I don't think he's bad but I don't think he's good either. Not good enough, at least for what kind of rides he'll probably wind up in. He's achieved some things here and there but has had a few lackluster campaigns in a few series too, which should also count for something. And it sucks that he'll probably take Briscoe's place at Penske because I'm not sure RFR and SHR have Xfinity programs that can really showcase his ability, whereas we all know what kind of advantage being in the #22 is.
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At the same time, this is where Cindric's work on all of these disciplines come into play. Unlike Briscoe, he's never really keyed into specializing in something like with RallyCross, K&N, ARCA, and other bit and pieces of experience everywhere. If Cindric truly commits to NASCAR, I think he would be a very good driver with a pretty high ceiling, I just hate BKR closing for Briscoe primarily because there is no telling what the young man has in place for next season.

I'd take him (Briscoe) in the 22 before Cindric, I have a feeling Penske might actually go back to two Xfinity cars with the 12 and 22 for the both of them. I really hope so and don't bring up RFR Xfinity Diabetes program with Reed and they don't even have anything for Majeski. SHR could be a possibility, but does Briscoe bring sponsorship to the table, that's his only saving grace.
 
I think Cindric and Briscoe are both good. I used to think Briscoe was a lot better after watching ARCA and the may to end of June stretch where he was a contender every week. But since the beginning of July Cindric has shown tremendous improvement and very nearly won Michigan but lost to the cheated up drive for diversity Truck. (I love bubba but the rules violations they had were huge lol). I think jury is still out on who's better because BKR isn't on the level of KBM or the rest of Toyota or GMS. Cindric to me is a Paul Menard on steroids, 10th-15th place driver in cup
 
gnomesayin said:
I don't have direct quotes, but his tone was dejected and reserved, and he stated that drivers doing whatever it takes to win is just the reality nowadays.
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So says the man who glorifies Dale Earnhardt at every opportunity. Mikey Waltrip is a hypocrite. I didn't like Cindric's move, but it was no worse than what Earnhardt Sr. did with great regularity. Cindric's move was less egregious than Chase Elliott on Ty Dillon at Mosport, and less egregious than Nemechek on Custer as well.

It wasn't pretty. Cindric would have looked better if Grala was moved aside but didn't spin. Maybe Cindric lacked the skill to accomplish that, and maybe Grala lacked the skill too. But one is no more dirty than the other, just more elegant and pretty. Either way, Grala gets passed due to physical contact from Cindric. Whether Grala spins or merely gets shoveled aside... Cindric was illegal by the rules of F1... but legal by the rules of Nascar. And that 1991 Sonoma finish, that was also legal by Nascar rules. They blew it that day.

Cindric definitely blew the interview.
 
^ I largely agree on all points, yet at the moment I shared the sense of disappointment in Waltrip's voice in the immediate aftermath.

I agree that Sonoma 1991 was a mistake because it wasn't consistent with how NASCAR officiates racing contact before and since. I still wonder if any incident could trigger that sort of response from the tower today.
 
I like the fact that in today's world, the feedback he got might change the way he does things. yeah Nascar has it set up that way, but dumping isn't liked be many fans. There were many examples in that race of guys moving trucks out of the way that weren't dumping. Whoopie he made the playoffs but he will be out in the first round, his truck isn't that fast in the Toyotathon of today's Nascar truck racing, and he isn't worth a **** on ovals anyway IMO.
 
StandOnIt said:
I like the fact that in today's world, the feedback he got might change the way he does things. yeah Nascar has it set up that way, but dumping isn't liked be many fans. There were many examples in that race of guys moving trucks out of the way that weren't dumping. Whoopie he made the playoffs but he will be out in the first round, his truck isn't that fast in the Toyotathon of today's Nascar truck racing, and he isn't worth a sh!t on ovals anyway IMO.
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He's been performing better on the ovals, I think even better than Briscoe in some cases the past couple of races.

Cindric has improved a lot since Daytona.
 
Kiante said:
He's been performing better on the ovals, I think even better than Briscoe in some cases the past couple of races.

Cindric has improved a lot since Daytona.
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he's over 120 points behind Briscoe, that is three complete races. 2 poles on ovals. Whatever ya want to believe.
 
StandOnIt said:
he's over 120 points behind Briscoe, that is three complete races. 2 poles on ovals. Whatever ya want to believe.
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Last couple of races about the last five to six races, not overall. Briscoe has been superior on the ovals, by far, just all I'm saying is that Austin is getting closer to matching him.

A lot closer than I expected, Cindric's average finish is 11.8 to Briscoe's 8.6 is the biggest difference, they are literally neck-to-neck.
 
Yeah for sure, (if) Briscoe would have had fourth gear he would have won Eldora. Ah can't say for sure about all that, yeah they are really close, but you can't discount 120 points better in a season. Brisco's top 5's and 10's are two or three places higher. Can't wait until they clear out the cupper junk and have a clean race to the title. I still think it will be a yota fest, but rooting for the underdogs.
 
personally I'm glad Nascar doesn't jump in the middle of racing incidents like this, it's one of the reasons I watch this series more than any other. On the other hand, if Kaz is eliminated in the playoffs, Kaz needs to put Cendric into the wall. Otherwise the rest of them will be running all over him like they did all day to young Gilliland. I won't be surprised if Gregson doesn't get some from Nemo if Nemo is out of it. That was a pretty crappy move Gregson pulled also.
 
The best series for Austin unfortunately doesn't exist - a NASCAR road course series. He'd be well-set in that case. Seems like with all of the bouncing around he's a jack of all trades, master of none.
 
I really respect the way Kaz handled it. I also give Michael Waltrip credit for what he said about the whole thing, more specifically the way he said it.

I'll stop short of labeling Cindric a punk, but I definitely think he should've been a little more patient and tried to get around him in a cleaner way. I wouldn't feel too good about winning a race in that fashion. That being said, I've seen a lot worse.
 
FLRacingFan said:
The best series for Austin unfortunately doesn't exist - a NASCAR road course series. He'd be well-set in that case. Seems like with all of the bouncing around he's a jack of all trades, master of none.
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to his credit, I would rather race a lawnmower than stand on the sidelines and watch a race if a ride was offered. I believe any racing makes you a better driver..But in Cedric's case I don't think it makes you a better person. Even days after the fact he still is hiding behind the playoff story alibiing his crappy no talent never hit the brakes dump.
 
Cindric's interview was one of the more entertaining ones I've seen all year...
 
StandOnIt said:
that wasn't a bump, that was a dump
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I finally got around to watching this one Sunday morning.

I don't blame Cindric for attemping a B&R. It certainly could have been done much better, at least well enough that it didn't cost Grala second place.

This series at this track continues to put up exciting, controversial finishes. To me, this is the 'must see' event of the Truck schedule, not Eldora.
 
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