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Captain Coyfish

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I was just looking and holy crap, there's a lot...
(all info from Jayski)

Jamie McMuraay:
7 TBA unsponsered races

Kasey Kahne:
4 unsponsersed (hendrickcars.com) races:
Pocono - 6/9
Daytona - 7/6
Michigan - 8/18
Texas - 11/3

Tony Stewart:
6 unsponsered (HAAS Automation) races:
Dover - 6/2
Kentucky - 6/29
Pocono - 8/4
Watkins Glen - 8/11
New Hampshire - 9/22
Kansas - 10/6

Clint Bowyer:
12 TBA unsponsered (Toyota or RK Motors) races

Ricky Stenhouse Jr:
9 TBA unsponsered (Ford Ecoboost) races

Jeff Burton:
6 unsponsered (Childress Institute) races:
Martinsville, 4/7
Darlington, 5/11
Pocono, 6/9
Sonoma, 6/23
Pocono, 8/4
Martinsville, 10/27

Ryan Newman:
9 unsponsered (HAAS Automation) races:
Bristol - 3/17
Talladega - 5/5
Dover - 6/2
Michigan - 6/16
Sonoma - 6/23
Pocono - 8/4
Atlanta - 9/1
Dover - 9/29
Martinsville - 10/27

Juan Montoya:
Most likely unsponsered for 3-5 races this season

Aric Almirola:
7 TBA unsponsered races

55:
8 unsponsered (Toyota or RK Motors) races:
Every race Vickers is driving (besides Martinsville)

Dale Jr:
11 TBA unsponsered races

Carl Edwards:
1 unsponsered race:
Homestead - 11/17
 
Captain Coyfish said:
I was just looking and holy crap, there's a lot...
(all info from Jayski)

Jamie McMuraay:
7 TBA unsponsered races

Kasey Kahne:
4 unsponsersed (hendrickcars.com) races:
Pocono - 6/9
Daytona - 7/6
Michigan - 8/18
Texas - 11/3

Tony Stewart:
6 unsponsered (HAAS Automation) races:
Dover - 6/2
Kentucky - 6/29
Pocono - 8/4
Watkins Glen - 8/11
New Hampshire - 9/22
Kansas - 10/6

Clint Bowyer:
12 TBA unsponsered (Toyota or RK Motors) races

Ricky Stenhouse Jr:
9 TBA unsponsered (Ford Ecoboost) races

Jeff Burton:
6 unsponsered (Childress Institute) races:
Martinsville, 4/7
Darlington, 5/11
Pocono, 6/9
Sonoma, 6/23
Pocono, 8/4
Martinsville, 10/27

Ryan Newman:
9 unsponsered (HAAS Automation) races:
Bristol - 3/17
Talladega - 5/5
Dover - 6/2
Michigan - 6/16
Sonoma - 6/23
Pocono - 8/4
Atlanta - 9/1
Dover - 9/29
Martinsville - 10/27

Juan Montoya:
Most likely unsponsered for 3-5 races this season

Aric Almirola:
7 TBA unsponsered races

55:
8 unsponsered (Toyota or RK Motors) races:
Every race Vickers is driving (besides Martinsville)

Dale Jr:
11 TBA unsponsered races

Carl Edwards:
1 unsponsered race:
Homestead - 11/17
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maybe it's going to be more like horse racing in the future?
 
That's rough.. I thought Aarons was a bigger supporter of MWR. Vickers is supposed to get the 55 next year... On who's dollar?
 
I've seen Kenseth starting to fall back in the late stages of way to many races until last year when he and Fennig starting getting something going (it was to late by then) and I'm not sure that it was equipment as much as driver/crew chief lack of something or other.
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
The most popular driver in NASCAR has eleven unsponsored races?! :confused:
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Yep. This is why NASCAR is freaking out over the TV Ratings and whatnot. That critical demographic for sponsors (males under age 35) are not watching NASCAR and the result is that the Sponsors won't pay until they start watching again.
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
The most popular driver in NASCAR has eleven unsponsored races?! :confused:
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ok hold your breath, hendrick is looking for a long term major sponsor for the 88 car. they have had alot of small offers just nothing big. I think they feel that if the races roll around they can find someone to put on the car. but why not get sponsorship sewn up for 3-5 years. they are in a different posisiton than other teams are.
 
#17D500winner said:
I've seen Kenseth starting to fall back in the late stages of way to many races until last year when he and Fennig starting getting something going (it was to late by then) and I'm not sure that it was equipment as much as driver/crew chief lack of something or other.
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He's also qualifying better this year , go figure.:confused:
 
Either the recession has a lot to do with it, it costs too much compared to days of yore or sponsors simply do not see the value in shelling out big dollars anymore on perhaps very little return. If you look at cars 10-15 years ago it seemed like almost every body panel was plastered by smaller secondary sponsors...now that hardly seems the case.
 
paradigm said:
Either the recession has a lot to do with it, it costs too much compared to days of yore or sponsors simply do not see the value in shelling out big dollars anymore on perhaps very little return. If you look at cars 10-15 years ago it seemed like almost every body panel was plastered by smaller secondary sponsors...now that hardly seems the case.
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It's a combination of a few factors.

1) The cost of Sponsorship had gone through the roof. Teams charge a lot of money now.
2) Sponsors look at 1, decide if their advertising dollars are better spent on NASCAR or elsewhere. They are choosing elsewhere.

So how do you fix this?

You can attack #1 buy controlling costs. Unfortunately, that never works because we end up with bad ideas like the Car of Tomorrow that ends up costing more even though it was supposed to cost the teams less.

You can attack #2 by making the high price worth it to sponsors. That means attracting the key demographic, 18 to 35 year olds. Sponsors covet these folks, and they will pay top dollar to reach them to sell their products. NASCAR isn't doing well with this age group though, so increasingly sponsors are not willing to pay the price the teams are charging.
 
sloggie said:
You can attack #2 by making the high price worth it to sponsors. That means attracting the key demographic, 18 to 35 year olds. Sponsors covet these folks, and they will pay top dollar to reach them to sell their products. NASCAR isn't doing well with this age group though, so increasingly sponsors are not willing to pay the price the teams are charging.
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Attracting new drivers like Danica Patrick and Travis Pastrana , big step in the right direction.
 
I find this thread's assumtions to be faulty.

From Jayski:
NOTE: This is a totally unofficial page compiled by Jayski from many different sources.
I try to make it as complete as possible and update it as often possible, sometimes each day.
It's a guide to what I hear is happening and what has been announced.
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Ergo, missing information not simply known to Jayski could be interpreted here by Captain "Create Thread" Coyfish as unsponsored races. I'll sound the alarm when I see more hard evidence.
 
I love NASCAR, but I do fear that the sport may be in a bit of trouble. The sponsorships aren't there, the TV ratings aren't there, the attendance isn't there, and the interest from the younger folks isn't there. Some of the NASCAR media types would lead you to think everything is puppy dogs, unicorns, and marshmallow clouds in the NASCAR world, but the evidence indicates otherwise. You can only blame the economy for so long, and even that doesn't explain the TV numbers. I don't think NASCAR is in danger of going away anytime soon, but it may be in danger of being relegated to a niche sport, kind of like the NHL or Major League Soccer.
 
ToyYoda said:
I love NASCAR, but I do fear that the sport may be in a bit of trouble. The sponsorships aren't there, the TV ratings aren't there, the attendance isn't there, and the interest from the younger folks isn't there. Some of the NASCAR media types would lead you to think everything is puppy dogs, unicorns, and marshmallow clouds in the NASCAR world, but the evidence indicates otherwise. You can only blame the economy for so long, and even that doesn't explain the TV numbers. I don't think NASCAR is in danger of going away anytime soon, but it may be in danger of being relegated to a niche sport, kind of like the NHL or Major League Soccer.
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It's not that dire though. The racing in Indycar is great this year. Once all the big sponsor money left the sport, the tickets got cheaper and the racing got better.

Stock car racing isn't going away. Maybe NASCAR does, but the racing will be there in one form or another.
 
sloggie said:
Stock car racing isn't going away. Maybe NASCAR does, but the racing will be there in one form or another.
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I just got my new passport and I will be 80 when it expires and Nascar will be around in pretty much its present form until me and the passport expire, whichever comes first, as long as it lasts intact until after my expiration date I'm fine. :D
 
When I look at what passes for television these day, I see that the 18-40 demographic has undergone some serious changes. I see people watching TV shows to be entertained by a husband and wife fighting or father and son smashing doors in a rage. It's all about the manufactured drama that lights up a persons face.

Companys know this so how can Nascar expect to compete for sponsor dollars when there's very little drama in driving in circles for 500 miles?

Remember that "show" with the Harvick's fighting all the time? Why does the media find it necessary to tell us about or show us Stenhouse and Patrick eating food in the stands?

Well, how long will it be before we're treated to weekly doses of Nascar couple's domestic troubles?
 
#17D500winner said:
When I look at what passes for television these day, I see that the 18-40 demographic has undergone some serious changes. I see people watching TV shows to be entertained by a husband and wife fighting or father and son smashing doors in a rage. It's all about the manufactured drama that lights up a persons face.

Companys know this so how can Nascar expect to compete for sponsor dollars when there's very little drama in driving in circles for 500 miles?

Remember that "show" with the Harvick's fighting all the time? Why does the media find it necessary to tell us about or show us Stenhouse and Patrick eating food in the stands?

Well, how long will it be before we're treated to weekly doses of Nascar couple's domestic troubles?
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I agree with you on mainstream entertainment, but I disagree with the NASCAR reality show Drivers 360 or whatever it was called. I thought it was a cool inside look at what my favorite drivers did during the week in between races. Reminds me of the Hard Knocks show on HBO about NFL training camp, if anybody has seen that.

I wouldn't like a manufactured reality show with Ricky and Danica going to the dog park with Cuddles or something, but I think a documentary-type reality show following around a team and really getting good access and showing what it's like to work in NASCAR would be cool.
 
Let the market decide. With less money everyone in racing will have to take a pay cut. If sponsorship cost less then more sponsors might join in. I don't think NASCAR can regulate costs, only the rules.
 
Annual NASCAR revenue $3 Billion
Average NASCAR Drivers’ Salary including endorsements $7.5 Million
Average annual amount a sponsor invest in a racing team $15 million
Percent of kids age 7 to 17 that reported being NASCAR fans

Here is a recent article below that states that Nascar's current 8 year broadcasting pact is worth 4.5 billion. This info was based I think on earning 2011:

Hendrick Motorsports is the most valuable team in the paddock and according to forbes.com is worth $350 million, more than most of the F1 teams. Last year it made $13.5 million in profits.
The team's value has not changed since last year and is linked to its success with 10 Cup titles in the last 17 years. In second place comes Roush Fenway Racing at $185 million, with profits of $6.8 million. 2012 is not going to be easy for the team because by the end of last season it had lost all of its primary sponsors. The team's value sank by 17 percent and this year it will run only 3 full-time cars. Joe Gibbs Racing is valued at $155 million after it made an $8 million profit last year, followed by Richard Cildress Racing valued at $147 million with a profit of $8.3 million.

Here is the article, I didn't copy drivers salaries..Jr at the top with 28 million

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/3/3/NASCAR-s-Big-Money-to-Get-Bigger-in-2012-7707492/
 
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