Waltrip fails to make the Coke 600...buying Cope ride to run race:

Mopardh9 said:
The car he really wanted to get in was the Haas car that was in the top 5 for awhile. They did not want to part with it though.
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If he did get the Haas car, it wouldn't have seen the top 20.
 
What makes you think that? I think if Mikey was in that car he would have finished a heck of a lot better than he did in Copes' car.
 
I don't think so. Mikey cannot "Drive" a stock car in competion. The only times he did any good at all were when he had DE and Jr helping him. Jr finally saw that Mikey isn't an asset, so he got shed of him. Good move by Jr.
If Mikey ever did get into a good machine, (like the 48??) he would still wind up in the 36 or worse positions.
I' sorry, to the Mikey fans. Don't want to "bash" another driver, but facts are facts.
And like TRL, I still would rather have Mikey in a car than in the booth!!! LOL
 
Mopardh9 said:
What makes you think that? I think if Mikey was in that car he would have finished a heck of a lot better than he did in Copes' car.
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Average finish this season 30.8
You do the math.
 
Ok i'm not a Mikey "fan", but i see what i see. Dale Sr. picked mikey for the 15 ride because Mikey was a good plate racer. You could say the same negative comments about the bottom 20 Cup guys and you could make it "fit." Mikey has horrible equipment this year, you put Jr.,Kasey,Jeffy,or JJ in that car and they won't do any better.
 
The American made Rice Grinder as you call it will be a hell of a lot better than the ride he has now.
 
Mopardh9 said:
The American made Rice Grinder as you call it will be a hell of a lot better than the ride he has now.
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You could put Mikey in an F-15 and he still wouldn't do any better. But he is one helluva talker !!!! :)
 
Mopardh9 said:
The American made Rice Grinder as you call it will be a hell of a lot better than the ride he has now.
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That so-called "american made" rice grinder is merely "assembled" in the U.S. by mostly imported parts made from U.S. scrap steel recycled in Japan. Japanese built computers run on Japanese software run the Japanese built machines the make up the Japanese designed assembly line :)
Profits from sales of those "american made" rice grinders are then deposited into Japanese bank accounts.

Mikey wouldn't win in a rice grinder if he got there a day before everyone else, but like Whiz said, he's got a helluva pie hole.
 
We will see next year, and american ford, chevy, and chrysler aren't assembled any different than Toyotas. Imported parts also, what is the difference? We are arguing apples and oranges here. I'll bet a keg of cyber beer that Mikeys' team gets a win next year with his RICE GRINDER!
 
Mopardh9 said:
We will see next year, and american ford, chevy, and chrysler aren't assembled any different than Toyotas. Imported parts also, what is the difference? We are arguing apples and oranges here. I'll bet a keg of cyber beer that Mikeys' team gets a win next year with his RICE GRINDER!
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I gotta agree with you there, somebody is going to get a Toyota win, I just don't think it will be 'Ol Jaws Jr.
 
I Didn't say it was going to be him ...i said his team, could be him, DJ , or some one in a 3rd car if he decides to field one.
 
dragonlady424 said:
I don't think so. Mikey cannot "Drive" a stock car in competion. The only times he did any good at all were when he had DE and Jr helping him. Jr finally saw that Mikey isn't an asset, so he got shed of him. Good move by Jr.
If Mikey ever did get into a good machine, (like the 48??) he would still wind up in the 36 or worse positions.
I' sorry, to the Mikey fans. Don't want to "bash" another driver, but facts are facts.
And like TRL, I still would rather have Mikey in a car than in the booth!!! LOL
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DE and Jr didn't drive the car for Mikey when he won at Daytona and Talladega. Lets give him "some" credit. He may not have the talent of many drivers but he isn't without talent either.
 
Looking at his stats in Nextel, Craftsman Trucks and Busch, his overall record is not that good. Michael's best average finish is in Busch, at 17.1 but also has eleven wins in that series.

Like many others before and since who have transferred to Nextel Cup with the basic success Michael had in that series, many have been shuffled back to the lesser series. Face it, some guys can't cut it in Nextel Cup and Michael is one of them. Not to take any anything from his four wins but over time there have been surprise winners on restrictor plate tracks and Michael is one of them.

Michael's personality and perpetual motion mouth are what keep him working at the top of the series. Considering how a guy with such limited ability can continue to find rides and sponsors speaks well for Michael, even if some of us do not. But then again, there are race fans who look for more than verbal assaults from a driver.

Hell, some of us have been known to recognize drivers we personally dislike but give credit to for talent alone. Just is, in my case, Michael ain't one of them.
 
I have put together some info on the "avg finish" for a number of drivers including Mikey. I have omitted the very good drivers like Rusty, Terry, Bill Elliott, etc. At first glance it looks like Mikey fits right in with these guys for the most part. I think my numbers are pretty correct.

S. Marlin.............30 yrs.........687 starts.........avg fin. 18.2
K. Schrader.........23 yrs.........680 starts.........avg fin. 19.4
M. Shepherd........26 yrs.........511 starts.........avg fin. 19.5
D. Marcis.............35 yrs........883 starts..........avg fin. 20.1
K. Petty...............28 yrs........761 starts..........avg fin. 20.5
M. Waltrip............22 yrs........654 starts..........avg fin. 20.9
B. Hamilton..........15 yrs........371 starts..........avg fin. 21.3
J. Spencer............17 yrs.......476 starts...........avg fin. 22.4
J. Nemechek.........14 yrs.......406 starts...........avg fin. 23.4
B. Bodine..............18 yrs........480 starts..........avg fin. 23.5
R. Mast.................15 yrs.......364 starts...........avg fin.24.2
H. Stricklin..........15 yrs.........328 starts.........avg fin. 24.4
K. Wallace.............16 yrs.......315 starts..........avg fin. 25.3

What does this mean, darn if I know. :)
 
Loved those numbers Muggle. Just goes to show everyone that those you've listed are not what we would call top 50 drivers. But then again, where is a good average for those who are considered top 50 drivers? Looking at the stats, it would appear that those top dudes must average at least 15th or close in order to be a top dog. At quick glance, it seems that the old Ironhead himself has the best average finish at just over 11th place. Not bad for his carreer.
 
Not to take any anything from his four wins but over time there have been surprise winners on restrictor plate tracks and Michael is one of them.
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Hey, is that a shot at Cope? ;)
 
slick-nick said:
Michael should not be in the race. Plain and simple.
Yeah, he found a loophole, so what? I'd be shocked if he finished in the top 40.
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And slick was right, he got 41st. lol
 
barelypure said:
Hey, is that a shot at Cope? ;)
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NAH !!! Just that there are several winners with few if any other wins other than on restrictor tracks. A few names like Spencer, Bouchard, Hillin, Jr., P.Parsons, Sacks, Michael Waltrip. And Cope. :)
 
Whizzer said:
NAH !!! Just that there are several winners with few if any other wins other than on restrictor tracks. A few names like Spencer, Bouchard, Hillin, Jr., P.Parsons, Sacks, Michael Waltrip. And Cope. :)
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Uh-oh, you better watch out the Lil'E folks will be calling for your head... :D


Yeah, I know - that darn comma :eek:
 
And so? What does that have to do with Mikey having a winning Toyota team? It is all about business, Mikey doesn't have to be a great driver all he has to do is sit back and run things. The drivers he puts in place will take care of stuff on the track, all he has to worry about is finishing in the top 36. He will have a much better shot at doing that next year than this year. He will have Toyota money, DJ, and a better overall operation.
 
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