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.. or does everyone think they can run over rookies? And by that I mean Kasey Kahne and Dale Earnhardt Jr. Dale flat out ran into him, no mistakes about it. Kasey never even moved up the track, but Dale still got into him. That was completely uncalled for and it cost Kasey a shot at the top 10.

Yeah, Dale said it wasn't on purpose.. I know, but he could of used his head a little more. It was a bonehead move on his part!
 
Originally posted by slick-nick@Sep 12 2004, 01:29 AM
.. or does everyone think they can run over rookies? And by that I mean Kasey Kahne and Dale Earnhardt Jr. Dale flat out ran into him, no mistakes about it. Kasey never even moved up the track, but Dale still got into him. That was completely uncalled for and it cost Kasey a shot at the top 10.

Yeah, Dale said it wasn't on purpose.. I know, but he could of used his head a little more. It was a bonehead move on his part!
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Ever hear of "AEROPUSH" ???

I really like Kasey, but remember that this was a short track with lots of rubbin and racin!
 
Originally posted by kat2220@Sep 12 2004, 12:36 AM
Ever hear of "AEROPUSH" ???

I really like Kasey, but remember that this was a short track with lots of rubbin and racin!
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I don't think aeropush had anything to do with it. Junior just ran into him, and the sad thing is... Kasey was STILL in the bottom lane. Pretty sad driving if ya ask me.
 
Originally posted by kat2220@Sep 12 2004, 12:36 AM

Ever hear of "AEROPUSH" ???

I really like Kasey, but remember that this was a short track with lots of rubbin and racin!
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There is not to much aeropush on short tracks. That was more like an egopush.
 
Originally posted by kat2220+Sep 12 2004, 12:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kat2220 @ Sep 12 2004, 12:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-slick-nick@Sep 12 2004, 01:29 AM
.. or does everyone think they can run over rookies?  And by that I mean Kasey Kahne and Dale Earnhardt Jr.  Dale flat out ran into him, no mistakes about it.  Kasey never even moved up the track, but Dale still got into him.  That was completely uncalled for and it cost Kasey a shot at the top 10. &nbsp;

Yeah, Dale said it wasn't on purpose.. I know, but he could of used his head a little more.  It was a bonehead move on his part!
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Ever hear of "AEROPUSH" ???

I really like Kasey, but remember that this was a short track with lots of rubbin and racin! [/b][/quote]
You mean lots of "get the hell out of my way" :lol:
 
Nah, Aero push had nothing to do with it. Junior had admitted it was his mistake. Who I am more wondering about was DJ. He was pretty much driving as he so put it "out of control" Honestly I think he is embarassed not only at the way the car ran but the way that he drove it like a mad man. Then I hear such things as the following:

Dale Jarrett stormed into his hauler after the race without acknowledging a reporter's question, then flung a towel and cursed a photographer who snapped a picture just before Jarrett disappeared inside.
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Just not like him and I think he knows it.
 
But when you have a chance to be in the chase and BAM, it's gone I think thats a good enough reason to be pissed.
 
Yeah but everyone else that did not make it was far more courteous. I just think DJ is really embarassed with the way the car and how he drove tonight. From what it sounds like on his website he is blaming himself for everything:

"We looked like we weren't ready for this," Jarrett said of the opportunity to get into the top 10 in the points. "I did a terrible job apparently in practice of relaying what we needed with the car, and the team couldn't adjust the car well, so we ran in the back and that's all you can say."
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It was an embarrasing night for Jarrett. If the "chase" does this to drivers, I would rather see the old sytem back.
 
I agree with you slick-nick! Dale already had a top 10 spot and with that bump took Kasey out of the top 10 chase. :angry:
 
Originally posted by Brickyard_400@Sep 12 2004, 03:58 PM
I agree with you slick-nick! Dale already had a top 10 spot and with that bump took Kasey out of the top 10 chase. :angry:
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I just hope Kasey doesn't decide to retaliate now that he has nothing to lose and Junior has everything to lose. B)
 
Junior just whittled down the number of drivers in the chase by one when he did that. But to here some around these parts tell it, stuff like that never happens. Everyone lives in a squeaky clean picture perfect world where everyone behaves all the time.

Yeah, right.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin+Sep 12 2004, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4xchampncountin @ Sep 12 2004, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brickyard_400@Sep 12 2004, 03:58 PM
I agree with you slick-nick! Dale already had a top 10 spot and with that bump took Kasey out of the top 10 chase.&nbsp; :angry:
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I just hope Kasey doesn't decide to retaliate now that he has nothing to lose and Junior has everything to lose. B) [/b][/quote]
I just don't think Kasey is that type, but ya never know! Isn't he going for ROTY?
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Sep 12 2004, 11:11 AM
I just hope Kasey doesn't decide to retaliate now that he has nothing to lose and Junior has everything to lose. B)
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I wouldn't mind to see it myself.
 
U can guarandamtee if Kasey retaliates and makes it obvious NASCAR might just set him out the rest of the race, IMO I think kasey burped the throttle and JR. got into him, simple as that.
 
In the race I watched last night, Joooonyer just rammed right into the rear end of Kasey. There was no call for that activity!!!!
On another board I posted that I feel this is exactly what NASCAR wanted with this new points system. To make all the drivers a bit crazy, over aggressive, over stressed and short tempered. Well, NASCAR got just what they ordered!!!!!
And the fans have every right to complain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JHMO
 
Originally posted by steveluvs3@Sep 12 2004, 12:27 PM
U can guarandamtee if Kasey retaliates and makes it obvious NASCAR might just set him out the rest of the race.
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Yeah, if anybody gets into Jr they'll sit 'em out the rest of the race.
 
Originally posted by slick-nick+Sep 12 2004, 01:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slick-nick @ Sep 12 2004, 01:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-steveluvs3@Sep 12 2004, 12:27 PM
U can guarandamtee if Kasey retaliates and makes it obvious NASCAR might just set him out the rest of the race.
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Yeah, if anybody gets into Jr they'll sit 'em out the rest of the race.[/b][/quote]
If ANYONE not in the top ten gets into ANYONE in the top ten, they can be assured of sitting out the rest of the race.

Nascar's bias of Jr is nowhere near you prujudice of him.
 
well i though during the race that the replay pretty much showed what happend. jr was right on kasey, but 2 cars infront of them someone, i cant remember who, got into mcmurry and kasey checked up and junior didnt check up . thats just normal short track racing.
 
Originally posted by Steve007@Sep 12 2004, 01:29 PM
If ANYONE not in the top ten gets into ANYONE in the top ten, they can be assured of sitting out the rest of the race.
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I don't see why... Just like DirtyMo said "It's just normal stock car racing."
Racers are just that, Racers. Just because they are in the top 10 doesn't make them any different than the rest. So I expect to see 11th-15th race harder than ever before.

And as far as Junior goes, believe it or not, I kinda like the guy. He's ok in my book, but I just think NASCAR lets him get away with a lot of crap that the others don't.
 
Well I heard Jr's interview and I saw I replays from the roof top camera. On the surface it does look like Jr just ran into him.......and I guess he did. :) However, I also heard Jr say that he'd been following Kasey for several laps and every time before he dove to yellow line. He didn't do it that time (shown quite obviously on the roof top cam replay........he held his line). Jr was expecting him to dive to line and when he didn't Jr plowed into him. It may or may not be the case about the laps before..........but, it's a plausible explanation. And Jr did admit it was his mistake. But, I guess no one heard what I heard, so carry on with the Jr's an idiot theme......it's fun to read anyway. :D
 
4xchampncountin, Its funny you brought that up. I was thinking the same thing. Kasey has nothing to loose now so well have to wait and see. Honestly I think Kasey has more class then that but there was alot of upset drivers the other night!

From a rumor I heard from Kasey Kahnes fan site a member was using a scanner at the race and Jr was saying on the scanner it was an actident and was very sorry and to go over and tell hes pit crew after the wreck.

I guess what gets my I dont think Mayfield stands a chance were as if Kasey made the top 10 he would. However I hope he proves me wrong because I like Mayfield but think Kasey stands a better chance at the nextel cup!
 
Originally posted by Brickyard_400@Sep 12 2004, 07:10 PM
I like Mayfield but think Kasey stands a better chance at the nextel cup!
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Not this year.
 
Might happen..........but it won't matter a hill of beans for this year. Could do him good for next, though!! :D
 
I just think its funny how Jr apologized for it...no sort of remorse, just an "i didn't mean to do it, i don't have anything against that boy" no sort of, "hey, I'm sorry I screwed up his chances to get into the big show" of course, by that point, jr had nothing to worry about because kasey was out of the big show and no longer a threat to what the world has already deemed as Jrs title.
 
This is all real funny, I don't see anybody grilling whoever it was that spun Casey Mears and took out Jimmie Johnson, I don't see anybody grilling Dale Jarret for spinning Jimmy Spencer. Everybody is on Jr because he spun Kahne. How many cautions were there during that race? Most of them were because someone touched someone else. That is the nature of the beast called short track racing, it happens every week all over the country. Jr didn't spin him on purpose and you all know it, now it is time to move on.
 
This is all real funny, I don't see anybody grilling whoever it was that spun Casey Mears and took out Jimmie Johnson, I don't see anybody grilling Dale Jarret for spinning Jimmy Spencer. Everybody is on Jr because he spun Kahne. How many cautions were there during that race? Most of them were because someone touched someone else. That is the nature of the beast called short track racing, it happens every week all over the country. Jr didn't spin him on purpose and you all know it, now it is time to move on.
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Because none of he drivers you brought up was in the chase well...... besides jarret.

I agree I dont think Jr spinned him out on purpose but doesnt mean Im ok with it being a Kasey Kahne Fan! :)
 
Originally posted by Brickyard_400@Sep 13 2004, 08:52 AM
I agree I dont think Jr spinned him out on purpose but doesnt mean Im ok with it being a Kasey Kahne Fan! :)
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So there is the problem, you said it yourself, you're a Khane fan (nothing wrong with that), I like Khane myself.
they have raced 26 races to get to this point, everybody started at 0 and they all ran under the same points system. So if he had raced a little better in the first 26 races he would be in anyway.
Khane definately doesn't have anything to hang his head about, he has had a great season, but his championship shot for this year is over.
 
Originally posted by bowtie@Sep 13 2004, 09:12 AM
Kahne definately doesn't have anything to hang his head about, he has had a great season, but his championship shot for this year is over.
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Thanks Dale!
 
Originally posted by slick-nick+Sep 13 2004, 09:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slick-nick @ Sep 13 2004, 09:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bowtie@Sep 13 2004, 09:12 AM
Kahne definately doesn't have anything to hang his head about, he has had a great season, but his championship shot for this year is over.
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Thanks Dale! [/b][/quote]
tunnel vision. <_<
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Sep 13 2004, 08:26 AM
Mears spun himself out.
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are you sure?

from Nascar.com

Jimmie Johnson cited over-aggressive driving by Jimmy Spencer and Dale Jarrett as reasoning for the accident that took him out of contention at Richmond International Raceway.

Johnson was running in the top 10 on Lap 180 when Spencer got together with Casey Mears in Turn 4, triggering a multicar pileup that destroyed the front end of Johnson's Chevrolet. Dale Earnhardt, Jr., Mark Martin and Ricky Rudd were also involved, but none suffered damage as debilitating as Johnson did.

"For the way (Jarrett) and (Spencer) were acting, I don't know how (Mears) could have made those two so mad," Johnson said. "They tried for three or four laps to wreck him, (Jarrett) did, and he couldn't do it. (Mears) finally cleared him and (Spencer) was inside him and he tried for three or four laps.

"Whatever (Mears) did, he upset two guys and (Spencer) just decided to go from the (bottom) white line all the way to the top and dump him and cause a huge pileup."


Mears wreck
 
According to Mike Helton, the same guy who vindicated Junior's spinning of Kahne by his silence, Jimmy Spencer did not cause the wreck - Mears did. Helton made it plain as day on the telecast that Spencer simply held his car and Mears drifter down into him. My own two eyes registered the fact long before Helton made the statement.

After watching Dale for so many years, I got pretty good at telling when a car veered from its lane by watching the white lines. Call it an acquired talent.

To support the other notion, you bring one of the wreck victims, a notorious whiner in his own right, Jimmie "Tell Them To Let Me Pass" Johnson. Wow. Convincing.

So yeah, I'm fairly certain of it.

:p
 
Originally posted by bowtie@Sep 13 2004, 07:06 AM
I don't see anybody grilling Dale Jarret for spinning Jimmy Spencer.
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What is there to say? As DJ told Marty Snyder on TNT after the race:

I was apologizing to Jimmy for getting into the back of him.&nbsp; I was out of control tonight
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Bowtie, seriously go check out the tape or watch Inside Nextel Cup tonight on Speed. I've watched the reply from several different angles in slow motion on my DVR and Mears clearly came down as Spencer held his position when you watch his car in relation to the lane markers. If anybody was driving like a mad man that would have to be Jarrett. Spencer was for the most part clean. Jarrett admitted his fault and he was embarrassed with how the car ran and how he drove.
 
While we are all out to blame other drivers for their drivers misfortune for not making the race I'd like to take this moment and to tell Mr. Felix Sebates to shut up. What a freaking whiner:

Whiny cry baby story link

Mr. Sabates, your team was well aware of the "X measurement" and the reason why Tony Stewart was not docked last year is because it was the first of its kind in which there was no penelty of its kind. Do yourself a favor and try to figure out how to prevent Jamie next year from having so many DNF's from your P.O.S. engines
 
I'm not blaming anybody, I don't care, I am just saying that the Jr incident was not the only one of the night. But because Jr. touched somebody you all want to prosecute him. I didn't even see the race, but I did see the replays and Jr and Kahne were not the only ones to touch Saturday night.
 
Bow, ya ain't gonna win this one..........Jr fans never win. :) Someone once called us all pom pom wavers. He's gone, but there are still true belivers among the herd. :D Man, I'd love to see Jr win the Title this year.......just to hear all protests, name calling, whining, and outragous conspiracies conjured up by the flock. :XXROFL:
 
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