what a di**

anybody live near hendrick's shop? I have a feeling they're setting up a boxing ring as we speak.....
 
Any respect i had for Vickers is gone. He bascially blamed Jr saying he came down on Jimmie. Well the video i saw (thankgod Tivo) when Jimmie was below Jr he stopped coming down. There was a foot or 2 between them. Brian hit Jimmie.
 
I bet the rest of the Hendrick teammates won't take Brian for granted the rest of the year. I'm glad he wrenked Jimmy, and I'm sure Jeffy will get a little bumber in the future to.
 
It's one thing to spin someone to get a win. Its another thing when you are 600 points out of 11th place and you spin out 2 guys in the chase one of whom is your "teammate" Vickers puts the I in team. I can't stand Jimmie Johnson but if he spun my favorite driver (dale jr) out and won the race i'd be pissed but could understand. Vickers will go another 150 races b4 another win.
 
i personally dont think it was intentional, i think Vickers was moving down to follow Jimmie and miscalculated and thought he had room.. im happy for Vickers, sorry for Jimmie and Dale but hey, thats racing..
 
LeDoux22 said:
i personally dont think it was intentional, i think Vickers was moving down to follow Jimmie and miscalculated and thought he had room.. im happy for Vickers, sorry for Jimmie and Dale but hey, thats racing..
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I see it the same way. but in his interview Vickers tried to blame The 8 and 48 :bsflag:
 
I agree he miscalculated but I have to say I think it is funny as HE$$ that Hendrick is treating VIckers like dirt and this happened to Johnson.
 
That's racing.

Don't think J.J. can say much about being wrecked considering how he's taken out half the field before. Just hate it for Jr. but at least that team looks like they've got their act back to gether at restrictor plate tracks. Just wonder if they will let Vickers stay in the 25 car the rest of the year.
 
LeDoux22 said:
i personally dont think it was intentional, i think Vickers was moving down to follow Jimmie and miscalculated and thought he had room.. im happy for Vickers, sorry for Jimmie and Dale but hey, thats racing..
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I agree, too
 
bx3 said:
Vickers did what he needed to do to win. He is smart.
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your serious? he's smart because he took out a teammate and a another guy thats in the chase....thats stupidty to me.
 
What we have here is normal, people talking through their hearts and not their brains. First off, this isn't anything that any of the top drivers haven't done themselves. For the Jr. fans, I feel your pain as a fan of Kahne, but ask a Terry Labonte fan how it feels when an Earnhardt spins him out of the way for a win. Ask a Spencer fan how it feels like when a Busch boy spins him for a win. How about a Wallace when a Gordon...well, the list goes on and on, and these spins have all been said to be intentional and they weren't for the first win either.

Jr was realistic in his interview saying that it's all part of the sport, but was just disappointed that it happened to him. Yeah, Brian's teammates will have a different outlook of Brian now, but when it's all said and done, they will race him again and not worry about anything. And, sit back and watch the rest of the season with Brian still in that #25 car.
 
This Buds For Me said:
your serious? he's smart because he took out a teammate and a another guy thats in the chase....thats stupidty to me.
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Stupidity? I call it misjudgement. Outfielders in baseball misjudge flyballs, Pilots misjudge landings, Cornerbacks in football misjudge a play on the ball, hell I misjudged my wifes reaction when I stay out with the boys too late once. Brian Vickers intent was to help Jimmie Johnson. He misjudged his position and turned Jimmie. Hell aparently with the way Brian turned Jimmie apparently he had an even better run then Jimmie so if he was out to win he could have made it three wide on the outside and we could have had one hell of a barn burner.
 
I'm new here but really glad I found this forum. I'm a big Jr fan and honestly don't really know how I feel about todays race....oh I cussed and threw my hat down when Jr got wrecked....BUT....it was obviously an accident. I don't think Vickers had any intention of doing it and he WAS looking for his first win...however I think its kinda crappy for a driver not even in the chase to put himself in the position to hurt 2 chase racers. I don't know. In the end Jr didn't get hurt that badly in the points...although he could have been alot closer to 1st. AND in the end johnson didn't get hurt nearly as much as I would have liked to see in the points....LOL. Anyways...its just racin!!! GO JUNIOR!!!!:beerbang:
 
God to hear some of these Junior fans on the Fired Up line that Wind Tunnel has is just some of the most hilarious stuff I have ever heard. Betty from West Virginia, Billy or whoever from Alabama, all of them knocked me off of my proverbial rocker in laughter. People need to get a life.
 
Once again...its just racin....I know what you mean N2....you think thats bad you outta hear some of the Husker fans around here when Nebraska loses....NOW THAT IS PATHETIC!!! GO JUNIOR!!!:beerbang:
 
Hey Jr. fans. Here is a quote from God himself:

“He didn’t wreck anybody on purpose,” Earnhardt Jr. said. “He didn’t think, ‘Oh, here’s my chance to knock them both out.’ He just got excited trying to push the No. 48. ... He was just racing hard there.”
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If you watch the replay, I think Jimmy wasn't going as fast when he got next to Dale and Brian was in the gas.
 
bx3 said:
He saw his shot and he took it. That's what heroes do.
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no...heroes dont win races by wrecking people.....yes everyone has done it in the past...but wrecking people to win a race does not make someone a heroe....making a great move without wrecking someone and winning the race is awesome.
 
don't think Vickers had any intention of doing it and he WAS looking for his first win...however I think its kinda crappy for a driver not even in the chase to put himself in the position to hurt 2 chase racers.
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The chase racers aren't special. If they don't want to put themselves in that position then they always have the opportunity to back off and points race. If you mess with the bull sometimes you get the horns and today Vickers was the bull. And, he planted both horns firmly into the side of Lil'E and Jimmie.
Yeah, it was a lousy deal for them but Brian drove a smart race and he was in the position at the end where he could win. Now if he and Kyle (since Kyle basically stands a snowball's chance) want to be team mates they need to go out and do that to the 8 non-Hendrick drivers each week. Wait until late in the race where the other guy doesn't have a chance to come back and "accidentally" slip into them... ;)
 
If Vickers had backed off, Johnson would've bawled about being hung out to dry. Vickers had a good run with the #48 and it looked to me like Johnson hesitated a bit as he thought the #8 was going to block.

I don't for a second think Vickers wrecked him intentionally and it's not like Hendrick drivers to admit fault.

Quote (paraphrased)from Kenseth after being asked a stupid question:

"Let's see, I was running 6th, two cars ahead of me wrecked so I guess I'm fourth. I'm not that smart but I can subtract single digits"
 
Bucky Badger said:
If you watch the replay, I think Jimmy wasn't going as fast when he got next to Dale and Brian was in the gas.
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That's what I've been saying. It looked like when Junior started to come down on Johnson, that Johnson had to slow up a bit...at 200MPH, slowing up just a bit when someone is a couple of feet away from your bumper is usually catastrophic...at least this time, Johnson only took two guys out instead of the whole field.

ha ha ha
 
I'm not a Johnson fan, but i actually thought he drove his best restrictor plate race to date. He stayed out of trouble all race, put himself in great position to win, and i think he might of gained some respect as far as plate racing goes. Vickers looked like he miscalculated a little, looked like a racing deal to me. Unfortunately we will never know what it would of looked like those three coming to the line together. I think it would of been a great finish, but like they say that's racin'.
 
Johnson has become a much better plate racer this year.

It looked to me like he had every intention of racing the #8 cleanly.
 
I think it's a racing deal - I think it's an inexpirienced racing deal, but a racing deal nonetheless.

You have Vickers who has never won a cup race except the Open (in which case didn't he wreck Skinner for the win?), anyhow - one big time non-points win. He's up there racing with none other than Dale Jr. and Johnson. I think he just panicked. I think he rushed his move. I think Jimmie let up because he saw Junior was going to try to block the 25 for a second, or he was going to try to 'side-draft' the 48 as Dale does so well and the 48 instead of being left out to dry he let off for a split second to stop the block and allow Vickers to slide in behind him to keep the draft. Vickers never let up. Vickers caught Jimmie's bumper, Jimmie into Junior, yada yada :: SPIN :: welcome to Sub Twenty Finish-ville population: 23.

It just one of those things where each guy was doing everything he could to get his best finishing spot and when all of them were tossed into the pot together it came out bad. :) There was a lot of split second strategy by two guys with a lot of time logged at the front of the racing field, and Vickers isn't used to thinking through a bunch of scenarios that quickly. Obviously Jimmie just figured out how to do it on plate tracks himself - and like it or not, he's one of the best drivers out there.

Brian didn't do it on purpose, doesn't mean I'm okay with it, but I can't see any guy out there intentionally wrecking another guy at 200 mph with no bad blood between them - not just for a win.

- k y l e
 
Well, it's not like niether Johnson or Earnhardt have made a mistake and wrecked other cars. :rolleyes: Are you trying to say that if a driver hasn't won a race before that he should just stand back and watch the "pros" duke it out? Now you're sounding like the driver of your avatar. Jimmie Johnson has become the "prima dona" of NASCAR and until he comes down from his high horse, that's going to be his reputation and many people don't care for it. Jr on the other had is dealing with this the way he should be.

I did like the interview Jimmie gave on Monday which was a little bit less gruff with Vickers than he had been the day before. When asked why he didn't just think of the points that would have been made up had he just stayed in second place instead of gambling on making the move to the front, Jimmie reponded by saying, "I'm a racer". I'd say that Brian did what he did, in fact, trying to make Jimmie the victor in this race, because he's a racer as well.
 
buckaroo said:
Well, it's not like niether Johnson or Earnhardt have made a mistake and wrecked other cars. :rolleyes: Are you trying to say that if a driver hasn't won a race before that he should just stand back and watch the "pros" duke it out?
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No, I said-

Kyle said:
I think he (Vickers) just panicked. I think he rushed his move.
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His move. HIS move meaning; the one he was making to win his race.

Kyle said:
It just one of those things where each guy was doing everything he could to get his best finishing spot and when all of them were tossed into the pot together it came out bad
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Vickers should have been trying to win, and NOT A SINGLE TIME DID I SAY HE SHOULDN'T HAVE. You're simply being aliterate because of who I root for. That whole post, from top to bottom, I was calling it a racing deal. It happens. The fact is - Vickers has never been there before - Dale and Jimmie have. Dale and Jimmie know what it's like to manage a race down to the last corner and go for the win, and you don't learn that UNLESS THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN. It's a learning curve for Brian, he was trying to win a race, and he did. I think he rushed his move. He could have pushed Jimmie in front of the 8 and probably drove by the 48 on his own getting Hendrick 1 and 2, but he didn't. Things got hairy, and he panicked - it's not his fault, and no one expected him to wait.

So next time try reading an entire post before looking at someone's sig or avatar and immediately thinking you know what they typed, because you clearly didn't read anything I wrote.

- k y l e
 
Anyone remember when Jr. took out Ward a few years back at Bristal? The only reason anyone is making anything out of this is becouse Jr. got taken out of a good finish..
I am so sick of Earnhadt fans thinking he can do no wrong. Jr. is not half as bad as Sr. was but it still cracks me up that when a Earnhardt gets taken out by th same kinda racin that made them famouse in the first place.

Congrats Brian. Now lets go on to next week to whatch Burton win the title.
 
fun_in_my_z said:
It cracks me up that when a Earnhardt gets taken out by th same kinda racin that made them famouse everyone gets mad.
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Considering that the only Earnhardt on the track now is Jr, what kind of racing made him famous? Other than Burton, Edwards, and Waltrip, I can't think of anyone else of the top of my head who he "took out". And he took responsibility for those......much more than some racers today.

What cracks me up is people compare Jr's style of driving to his dad's....and those same people bitch about when other people do the same.
 
Well Kyle, I did read your every word and the sentence I was commenting on was this one...

You have Vickers who has never won a cup race except the Open (in which case didn't he wreck Skinner for the win?), anyhow - one big time non-points win. He's up there racing with none other than Dale Jr. and Johnson.
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You are right, I don't care much for who you root for, but that doesn't mean that I don't think he's a great driver. I think that he's a whiner and a prima dona who thinks that others less than him should move over and let him through to race those, like you, whom he thinks is on a par with him.
 
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