What we appreciate about NASCAR

Skoalbandit33 said:
They might or they may realize a crate motor with branded up valve covers is the way to go as there isn't much difference in the engines anyway. If a good spin is put on it I think it could work out.
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Fake motors to go with the fake tailpipes!!! Perfect! Ol' Brian boy hits another one out of the park!!!
Please let this happen!!! Bahahahahaha!!!!
 
I dig plate racing. I can take a nap during the race and always get awakened by the announcers when "the big one(s)" happen.
I dig Bristol. The sound, the smell, watching different action while being able to see the entire field.
I dig the Dover's Miles the Monsters trophy. If I was a driver that would be the one trophy I'd want. It is just a fantastic design.
I like how opened minded the fanbase is and its willingness to wrap its arms around different ideas. They never complain about change.
I dig that Richard Petty takes time out of his life to sign autographs for long periods of time. You don't see the best know people in other sports appreciate their fans that way.
I dig that the history and tomorrow of NASCAR was injected into Cars 3.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
I agree. I don't care whose badge is on the front of the truck, or car.
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Agree, because everything is fluid. It's not like baseball or football where you're rooting for the home team even when the star player goes away and plays in another city. In this game, most people like a certain driver. I just like the action and the speed anymore, but when I was rooting for T. Labonte, he was in an Olds, a Ford, a Chevy that I remember and it made no difference to me. You may be mad that your driver went from Chevy to Toyota but you're probably not going to jump ship.

If I may add, and I talk about Pocono a lot because that's where I always go other than one trip to Dover, but they treat the fan pretty darn well IMO. Twenty percent discount for early renewal, you basically are a season ticket holder for no cost as long as you re-up...free parking, bring in all the food and drink you can fit in a cooler of their size specs, and they allowed me to swap duplicate tickets I won for NASCAR that I already had for free Indy tickets. There's no better deal in pro sports than NASCAR for the fan who wants to attend. Yes, you're going to pay $7-8 for a beer but if you do that's on you. Bring your own. Good luck doing that at a Yankee game or an NFL game. Good luck getting your seats guaranteed for next year in major college football without a donation on top of their inflated ticket prices.
 
Towmater said:
I dig plate racing. I can take a nap during the race and always get awakened by the announcers when "the big one(s)" happen.
I dig Bristol. The sound, the smell, watching different action while being able to see the entire field.
I dig the Dover's Miles the Monsters trophy. If I was a driver that would be the one trophy I'd want. It is just a fantastic design.
I like how opened minded the fanbase is and its willingness to wrap its arms around different ideas. They never complain about change.
I dig that Richard Petty takes time out of his life to sign autographs for long periods of time. You don't see the best know people in other sports appreciate their fans that way.
I dig that the history and tomorrow of NASCAR was injected into Cars 3.
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all of that is very true
 
The memories and time spent with the family involving racing. That's about the only thing me and my grandpa on my dads side can do and talk about and half ass get along with each other.


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What I like the most is that they line up close to 40 bad ass cars every week and there's 10 with a legit chance of winning and twenty more that can steal a win with a gamble or luck.

I'm not a car guy, hell I can hardly change my own oil, but when someone has a car like the 18 last week or the 78 at Charlotte last spring it just intrigues the hell out of me. How do you get that much of an advantage with the tight rules they have? It's impressive.

Can't wait for The Glen this week!
 
UpNorth said:
What I like the most is that they line up close to 40 bad ass cars every week and there's 10 with a legit chance of winning and twenty more that can steal a win with a gamble or luck.

I'm not a car guy, hell I can hardly change my own oil, but when someone has a car like the 18 last week or the 78 at Charlotte last spring it just intrigues the hell out of me. How do you get that much of an advantage with the tight rules they have? It's impressive.

Can't wait for The Glen this week!
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Brings up a good point...I sometimes get the idea that a lot of drivers ain't "car guys" either. They're drivers. The guy driving the Pete on the Interstate could be a hell of a dependable driver but not know a piston from a pigeon. Just get the load from A to B. I think a lot of racers are like that. That's why it's a team.
 
Bob said:
Brings up a good point...I sometimes get the idea that a lot of drivers ain't "car guys" either. They're drivers. The guy driving the Pete on the Interstate could be a hell of a dependable driver but not know a piston from a pigeon. Just get the load from A to B. I think a lot of racers are like that. That's why it's a team.
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You are spot on there Bob....... It isn't anything close to what it used to be..... most of the drivers from years past had to work on their cars.. They knew them from top to bottom.... now..... the drivers fly in... get in the car.... practice.... qualify.... race... and never get their hands dirty and don't know a clue as to what makes the car go... They have to know enough to relate to the crew what the car is doing...... but... other than that.... they are just the driver.
 
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Revman said:
Manufacturers won't walk away from this sport if they go crate motors--they will run....and never come back.
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Well unless the three current ones want to support 30 plus entrants it might be an unavoidable reality.
We are losing car counts and some cost containment as much it cringes folks will be happening, sooner or later.

And who is to say that Toyota, Ford etc doesn't pull out in the future regardless of having crate engines. The cost is incredible, and corporations routinely scrutinize the books to cut cost.
 
I appreciate all racing. It is a life long passion. I am really enjoying watching the new generation emerge the past couple of years in NASCAR.

Sorry off topic, but you guys mentioned crates. I was just pondering this very topic the other week.
What is you guess the savings would be in the engine dept. if they went to crates? As much as 50%
in R&D, and Engineers?
 
kymartin6 said:
You are spot on there Bob....... It isn't anything close to what it used to be..... most of the drivers from years past had to work on their cars.. They knew them from top to bottom.... now..... the drivers fly in... get in the car.... practice.... qualify.... race... and never get their hands dirty and don't know a clue as to what makes the car go... They have to know enough to relate to the crew what the car is doing...... but... other than that.... they are just the driver.
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The "Nascar Lifestyle" has evolved, no question about that. But the essential elements of hard, aggressive, head-to-head racing remain the same as always. That's what I'm hooked on... the racing... not the lifestyle. Just my opinion.

Hotrod said:
I appreciate all racing. It is a life long passion. I am really enjoying watching the new generation emerge the past couple of years in NASCAR.
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I agree 100%. Honor the past. Live the present. Look forward to the future.
 
Greg said:
Well unless the three current ones want to support 30 plus entrants it might be an unavoidable reality.
We are losing car counts and some cost containment as much it cringes folks will be happening, sooner or later.

And who is to say that Toyota, Ford etc doesn't pull out in the future regardless of having crate engines. The cost is incredible, and corporations routinely scrutinize the books to cut cost.
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I believe that Toyota is in for the very long haul, but if NASCAR goes the route, they will be gone in very short order. David Wilson has already said that if NASCAR introduces crate motors into the Truck program, they will have to reconsider their involvement. Without Toyota, NASCAR had better hope that the cost of the crate motors is so appealing that the small time teams come out of the woodwork to support the series. I don't see that happening. Less so, in Xfinity and Cup.
 
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