What's he thinking?

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I wonder what pop-pop is thinking. Happy left and in his first year with a new team won the championship. He's won 4 out of the last 9 races. That's a .444 winning %. Happy's very happy and has finished 1st or 2nd in the last 6 races.
Pop-pop has to be thinking ''What was I thinking letting him go?"

Yeah I know Harvick left because of the circumstances of bringing in the grand kids, sad to watch a former top tier team circle the drain...
 
Honestly, RCR seems to have been playing catch-up for yrs. Harvick kept them relevant (Kind of like he is doing with his current team). Much credit to Newman tho - they have had a nice start to the season. I know he finished second in pts last yr but anyone that watched could see he was really only competitive at Homestead.
 
So this is a serious question, but has RCR ever been a team like Hendrick Racing is? Have they ever been a team with multiple competitive drivers that have a chance of winning a Championship? Or have they always been a team with one really good driver and everyone else is mediocre?
 
SpeedPagan said:
So this is a serious question, but has RCR ever been a team like Hendrick Racing is? Have they ever been a team with multiple competitive drivers that have a chance of winning a Championship? Or have they always been a team with one really good driver and everyone else is mediocre?
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I think you've nailed it.
 
RCR's last championship was in 1994 with Sr. 20 years ago. Yes Ryan finished 2nd last year. I like him but I don't expect him to repeat.
IMHO Childress has jeopardized the organization by bringing in the Dillon's. YMMV
 
I wouldn't be talking too much smack about RCR right now, IMO they have weathered the sponsorship storm better than other teams. They have adapted to changing situations. YES they lost harvick a huge blow no doubt. Harvick wasn't going to stay there anyways he had a great year the last year he was there. compare RCR to roush right now. Lets make a stretch and even compare them to gibbs cars, right now who is putting better cars on the track?? leave the drivers out of it. gibbs drivers are way better. RCR has the ability through its alliances to see much better how they stack up against the field. Nothing can be more frustrating for a team, is it the driver or the car that sucks? at least with RCR they know the cars aren't horrible, they are competitive. I would rather be them than roush I will tell you that. Almendinger and truex are better drivers than menard and austin. Its no surprise to me they don't run as well. We have had a big rules changes and RCR cars are competitive. I think they are due some credit especially with the driving talent they have in their cars.
 
As a Harvick fan, I still want to see RCR succeed and am glad to see some potential this year. I hope they win a few races.
 
SpeedPagan said:
So this is a serious question, but has RCR ever been a team like Hendrick Racing is? Have they ever been a team with multiple competitive drivers that have a chance of winning a Championship? Or have they always been a team with one really good driver and everyone else is mediocre?
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mediocre BUT with big dollar solid sponsors..sometimes it isn't all about winning to stay afloat and viable. ECR engines are in Truex and A.J.'s cars. for a rookie last year Dillion didn't tear up any equipment and money wise he earned close to what Larson did, more if you figure in all the cars Larson messed up. So yeah some people are going to scoff at their record, but they are solidly in the show. Harvick with his leaving didn't hurt them that much. Some around here were predicting the end of RCR. Rodney Childers has done more for Harvick's success than his driving ability IMO.
 
RCR is the reason HMS are what they are today. they stuck it out for years and spent millions of dollars to beat/out do RCR. now they are the chosen ones.
 
SpeedPagan said:
So this is a serious question, but has RCR ever been a team like Hendrick Racing is? Have they ever been a team with multiple competitive drivers that have a chance of winning a Championship? Or have they always been a team with one really good driver and everyone else is mediocre?
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I think they had a couple of years when Harvick, Bowyer, and Burton were all pretty good, but other than that nothing comes to mind.
 
ToyYoda said:
I think they had a couple of years when Harvick, Bowyer, and Burton were all pretty good, but other than that nothing comes to mind.
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as a 3 car team hard to figure but I would say most years their three car team earned in the top 5 of winnings. Probably did pretty good last year..but Childress has almost always had good paying sponsors.
 
To be fair, RCR has never good at hiring talent to be in their non 3 and 29 cars until Bowyer and Burton came along.

Jeff Green? Robby Gordon? Mike Skinner? Johnny Sauter?

They kind of got what was expected there.
 
BOWTIE GUY said:
RCR is the reason HMS are what they are today. they stuck it out for years and spent millions of dollars to beat/out do RCR. now they are the chosen ones.
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I'm not getting this.

Are you saying HMS wasn't given it their all before they found their golden goose?
 
Reck said:
I'm not getting this.

Are you saying HMS wasn't given it their all before they found their golden goose?
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Of course they were. Everybody does.

Most of the time, Their All isn't good enough, no matter who they are.
 
The Nature Boy said:
To be fair, RCR has never good at hiring talent to be in their non 3 and 29 cars until Bowyer and Burton came along.

Jeff Green? Robby Gordon? Mike Skinner? Johnny Sauter?

They kind of got what was expected there.
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Green was coming off back-to-back Busch championships. Skinner was a driver who dominated the early years of the Truck series. I can understand those moves.

Gordon? Yeah, you got me there.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Green was coming off back-to-back Busch championships. Skinner was a driver who dominated the early years of the Truck series. I can understand those moves.

Gordon? Yeah, you got me there.
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Gordon finished 16th and 20th in the two full seasons he worked for Childress. Kind of a B.S. post, all of those drivers listed didn't do that bad, Skinner did really well.
 
Ryan Newman has always been remarkably underrated as a driver. He's probably one of the 10 best drivers in the sport. Consistent but aggressive. There was one year where Newman clicked off a ton of wins but couldn't mount a championship charge mainly because, like with Rusty Wallace in the mid-90s, Penske cars were inconsistent.

Kevin Harvick is one of the all time greatest drivers in NASCAR and I said for years that he'd win a championship if he left Richard Childress Racing. He would probably have multiple championships by now if he had left sooner.
 
Honestly, I don't thin Austin or Ty get any respect, solely because they're Richard Childress' grandchildren. Austin is a smooth, consistent driver who's going to be good for top-10s but I don't think that cuts it with NASCAR's new system. Ty's aggressive, wide open and wants to win.

Austin needs to lose the stupid cowboy hat.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Honestly, I don't thin Austin or Ty get any respect, solely because they're Richard Childress' grandchildren. Austin is a smooth, consistent driver who's going to be good for top-10s but I don't think that cuts it with NASCAR's new system. Ty's aggressive, wide open and wants to win.

Austin needs to lose the stupid cowboy hat.
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Honestly, I agree with Kevin Harvick.

 
I hope he keeps it to jack up the wankers who are always looking for something to cry about. The Dillons aren't going anywhere, they both do a good job.
 
SpeedPagan said:
Honestly, I agree with Kevin Harvick.

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That is always a good thing when Harvick is bitching about a driver, he was crying about the 55 Brett Moffit who had a hell of a run in Atlanta..The Harvick seal of approval.

"Good run," Earnhardt posted on Twitter. "Saw ya out there holding a smooth wheel today."

Tweeted Larson: "Shout out to @Brett_Moffitt finishing 8th today. Really his first time in a well funded car and got a top 10."
 
SpeedPagan said:
Honestly, I agree with Kevin Harvick.

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They can't help that they're rich kids. :idunno: The days of some backwoods racer with no money, needing to win races to feed his family, climbing up the ranks and making it into NASCAR are over. That's the way it is.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
They can't help that they're rich kids. :idunno: The days of some backwoods racer with no money, needing to win races to feed his family, climbing up the ranks and making it into NASCAR are over. That's the way it is.
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I agree, but, on the other hand, all the money in the world won't make you a more talented racecar driver.
 
BobbyFord said:
I agree, but, on the other hand, all the money in the world won't make you a more talented racecar driver.
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It works for a lot more drivers than you can think and I can name a bunch. Money buys you good equipment. And a driver is only as good as the car he's in.

That said, Austin and Ty are both wheelmen. Two of VERY FEW drivers that make it into NASCAR who were actually successful in Late Models (dirt and asphalt).
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
They can't help that they're rich kids. :idunno: The days of some backwoods racer with no money, needing to win races to feed his family, climbing up the ranks and making it into NASCAR are over. That's the way it is.
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Racing is EXPENSIVE.

I don't understand the hate either. Ever since Daytona and the Gordon wreck, people have been saying how crappy Austin is. He's not bad at all, but what can you do? Sponsorship is necessary and Childress has it. It's only a matter of time until these guys perform better. Most of those RCR cars were in the top-12-15 area last week.

I would look out for those organizations as the season goes on. Harvick is great and he has the equipment to do so, but he really can be an asshat. The Dillon's are trying to prove they belong and honestly they do their job well.
 
Kiante said:
Racing is EXPENSIVE.

I don't understand the hate either. Ever since Daytona and the Gordon wreck, people have been saying how crappy Austin is. He's not bad at all, but what can you do? Sponsorship is necessary and Childress has it. It's only a matter of time until these guys perform better. Most of those RCR cars were in the top-12-15 area last week.

I would look out for those organizations as the season goes on. Harvick is great and he has the equipment to do so, but he really can be an asshat. The Dillon's are trying to prove they belong and honestly they do their job well.
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Talent doesn't beat money in this sport and that's just how it is. I scoff everytime I hear Mike Joy talk about "the 43 best drivers in the world" because I know better.

That said, the Dillon boys do not represent the "rich kid" problems. Those two can wheel.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
They can't help that they're rich kids. :idunno: The days of some backwoods racer with no money, needing to win races to feed his family, climbing up the ranks and making it into NASCAR are over. That's the way it is.
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Over a long time ago

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A 13-year old named Jeff Gordon had just come across the country to Florida with his father to race this sprint car. Jeff says he has never been more terrified in his life, but it took him only two nights to catch on.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
It works for a lot more drivers than you can think and I can name a bunch. Money buys you good equipment. And a driver is only as good as the car he's in.

That said, Austin and Ty are both wheelmen. Two of VERY FEW drivers that make it into NASCAR who were actually successful in Late Models (dirt and asphalt).
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But many drivers have gotten into top tier rides and have not produced good results. Money buys good equipment. You can't buy talent. You either have it or you don't.
 
SpeedPagan said:
So this is a serious question, but has RCR ever been a team like Hendrick Racing is? Have they ever been a team with multiple competitive drivers that have a chance of winning a Championship? Or have they always been a team with one really good driver and everyone else is mediocre?
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They put Harvick, Bowyer, and Burton in the chase in the same season not to long ago. Around 2010 give or take a year.
 
Greg said:
They put Harvick, Bowyer, and Burton in the chase in the same season not to long ago. Around 2010 give or take a year.
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Similar situation with SHR with Tony slumping, Kurt in trouble, and Danica... Well being Danica. The difference is he has Rodney Childers and even better Hendrick engines with Haas' amazing windtunnel. Now Harvick has a great car every week w/o even batting an eyeball. He's the ONLY person at SHR that is really doing something in terms of a championship contender, at the moment that is.
 
I think back when RCR and Roush were the top teams; now Hendrick and Gibbs are the top teams. Sometime down the road it might be Kelly Earnhardt and Kyle Busch running the top teams.
 
Zerkfitting said:
I think back when RCR and Roush were the top teams; now Hendrick and Gibbs are the top teams. Sometime down the road it might be Kelly Earnhardt and Kyle Busch running the top teams.
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last year it was SHR, Penske, Gibbs and Childress in the finals.
 
I think the better question is what is SHR thinking as an organization right now seeing Ryan Newman outperform the equipment at RCR while SHR turns into a dumpster fire.
 
SpeedPagan said:
So this is a serious question, but has RCR ever been a team like Hendrick Racing is? Have they ever been a team with multiple competitive drivers that have a chance of winning a Championship? Or have they always been a team with one really good driver and everyone else is mediocre?
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Jeff Burton was the championship leader and Harvick 3rd halfway through the 2006 Chase.
 
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