Which drivers today

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by CalTenn, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. CalTenn

    CalTenn Team Owner

    Which drivers today would go through what drivers during the 70’s and 80’s, could work on the cars 18 hours a day, under funded, drive to the track race 500 miles or laps. Load up drive home and start all over again. Most now seem like they are owed something , IMO

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  2. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Corey Lajoie IIRC has been a jack of all trades driver. John Hunter I believe with NEMCO as well.
  3. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    Which drivers of yesterday would have turned down the opportunities and money today’s drivers get because that would just be too easy?
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  4. Jeff Turner

    Jeff Turner Jackman

    I don't think that's necessarily a racing thing, I think that's just a life thing. People in general were just tougher in the old days. I'm still in my 30's (barely) and I'm ashamed of how soft and weak most people in my generation are compared to my parents and grandparents.

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  5. CalTenn

    CalTenn Team Owner

    Sorry I can’t get the photo to load.
  6. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Yeah ... and power steering.

    Stupid little softies.
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  7. Stu Jameson

    Stu Jameson Team Owner

    Clint Bowyer and Martin Truex would have no problem.
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  8. Joker

    Joker #1 Harvick Fan

    Try being 22 and white working class. I feel like a dinosaur sometimes.
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  9. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Some act a bit too entitled. Got to earn your keep, you can't interview and expect to be a CEO the next day. Work hard, show respect and give respect back. It pays off in the end.
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  10. lolla79

    lolla79 Team Owner

    It's definitely not Kevin Harvick. He just drives.

  11. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Lol maybe if people’s parents weren’t so soft this wouldn’t be an issue
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  12. ReturnTrip

    ReturnTrip Team Owner

    Paul Menard
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  13. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Maybe Clint, never Martin.
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  14. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    I remember back in the day when you had to manage your tires. We even built our own tires.

    Goodyear would send a pallet of tire plys. Then we would heat them up and stick them together.
    That's why we called them stickers.
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  15. JohnHill

    JohnHill member of Who Dat Nation

    For some reason I can see Logano as a guy who would be interested and want to be involved with work on the car. Also Keselowski... Denny Hamlin... Ryan Newman... Kurt Busch.
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  16. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    You may be right, but I am not convinced and l really don't know how we could measure such things for a comparison. Memories are also subjective too, we usually pass down the most inspiring recollections.

    In my opinion the demands or requirements of life and racing have changed too, more so than the character of people. In short I think every generation had and has high and low achievers. There will always be hard workers and some lazy or soft people. I can agree that people had to deal with cruder and harsher conditions back in the day. But l see poeple currently working as many hours as ever if not more, and most businesses or employers are more productive as a matter of survival. In other words they they are constantly working to remove dead weight or those who are unproductive.

    Back to racing and some more of the obvious : As a prerequisite drivers had to be more mechanically inclined years ago. The driver development changes through the years demonstrate the point. The road or doorway to getting a cup ride is different as well. For example the current demands for a driver to be more savvy at social media requires a softer skill set but it does not necessarily mean the current driver is a softie. The added on disciplines will also leave less time for shop work, or at least be divided by a drivers need to satisfy sponsors and the shop.
    The driver gets to fly to the track and other places more. But he is also expected to shake more hands than ever, and that is work too, just a different type.

    The ideas about softness and strengths, or soft skills verses hard skills can also be deceptive. And the argument can be made that it takes more mental strength or maturity to be a modern day driver. More mistakes and moments of poor representation or judgment can and will be reported now. Leaving less opportunities to blow off some steam in the shop etc....

    Note : l tried to convey a lot of thoughts, hopefully it isn't to scattered or a senseless read.
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  17. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    This guy earned his living building race cars in Vancouver, Wash.
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  18. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Biff should make a full time return to the Truck Series, enough of the young guys and all that, Sauter, Crafton, Moffitt, Rhodes need more veteran competition. Plus it's only 23 races a year so plenty of off time still.

    Rumors are that Biffle will be back in the 51 at Talladega
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  19. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    @Greg gets it. Good post, man. I'm not a fan of these lifestyle threads, waxing nostalgic about the "Early Nascar Era" lifestyle. They confuse racing with other non-racing stuff, and often make bogus judgements about what is righteous and what isn't.
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  20. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    This is a sad pic of someone taking $$$$$ from the kiddies. All it needs to make this pic just a little more repulsive is Kyle Busch with arms crossed looking down in approval... :rolleyes:
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  21. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Please stop crying.

    It's embarrassing.
  22. joe h

    joe h Team Owner

    For some reason Kurt Busch seems like the type that could succeed in any situation.
  23. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    Just as long as keeps the wimmins international assassinfascination in check, and stays away from the Brad Pitt movies....
  24. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    Jimmy Spencer has a towel for you.
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  25. KodiakRusty89

    KodiakRusty89 Team Owner

    Ryan Newman for sure imo. He has an engineering degree from Purdue and has a strong personality. I think he could have been a Kulwicki type guy had he come around 10-15 years earlier.

    Harvick, Bowyer, the two Busch's, Jimmy Johnson definitely come to mind. I think Larson and Stenhouse would have been more successful back in the day. There was more of a place for those checkers or wreckers type drivers. Larson reminds me a bit of Geoff Bodine. Put Stenhouse in the #4 in 1991 and you have something like Ernie Irvan. Irvan ultimately refined his driving style by mid 1992.....
  26. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    The next Mission Impossible movie will be starring Kurt Busch.
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  27. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    You're looking for something that's not there. Anyway, here's your hero:

    “I’ll tell you I haven’t worked in three years, so that would be great for the bank account,” Biffle said.
  28. KodiakRusty89

    KodiakRusty89 Team Owner

    I'm of a similar age (36, Oct turn 37) and I tend to disagree. We remember life before cell phones, the internet (mainstream, hell very few people had computers) and when not everyone had cable tv. Technology has definitely changed humans. We caught the very beginning of the tidal wave. I remember as a kid always playing outside for hours on end and taking our bumps and bruises. Often wearing them as a badge of honor. A lot of my staff (private golf club) consists of college age kids. It's crazy the disconnect at times...lol.

    Most importantly, we caught the very best of NASCAR imo. The absolute best....
  29. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

  30. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

    It's called a joke, bud. Kinda like how you called Biffle my hero. :lol2: Ew, no.
  31. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

  32. Truex_rox

    Truex_rox 19 looks better than ever.

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