SlicedBread22
#TeamJL
My point is... Joey could very well be on his way to becoming the #1 at Penske. Of course if you ask them.. its all equal lol
Average? 3rd most top 5's.. 4th most top 10's... makes the chase , and improves on almost every stat he's had.... that's a little above average if you ask..... anyone. Yeah yeah points bla bla a couple small changes to this season and he's top 5 hands down. And yeah yeah bla bla you cant change anything I know... but that doesn't change the fact that they've performed as well or better than most.ONE average season and you think Joey is better than a Championship driver? Holy crap. Why dont you try comparing his stats to the man who took over his ride in 2013 and DOMINATED?
That's where this obnoxious attempt at a thread starts and stops.Until JL can get a resume like BK, Keselowski hands down.
That's pretty much how I see it.This year: Logano
Overall: Keselowski
I do not consider Logano better than Keselowski overall. Too difficult to argue against a championship, and Kez has accomplished more.
I may reconsider if Logano has another good season compared to Kez next year.
Fine I'll do it for you. Since you only like doing 2013 stats here ya goAverage? 3rd most top 5's.. 4th most top 10's... makes the chase , and improves on almost every stat he's had.... that's a little above average if you ask..... anyone. Yeah yeah points bla bla a couple small changes to this season and he's top 5 hands down. And yeah yeah bla bla you cant change anything I know... but that doesn't change the fact that they've performed as well or better than most.
I'm starting to dig this guy!Helio Castroneves
Yup... theyre both having career seasons... Im glad Joey memory is gone from JGR now he's driving like he should.Fine I'll do it for you. Since you only like doing 2013 stats here ya go
Matt Kenseth 2013
wins 7
Avg finish 12.73
laps lead 1,401
Joey Logano 2013
1 win
avg finish 14.67
laps lead 282
Yup. Took over his ride an absolutely killed Logano's memory at JGR
I wouldn't be so sure. Joeys doing better than Brad and that's with having a lot of bad luck. If he can have a season close to this one with less bad luck he could be one of the favourites for the championship.Brad overall, Joey this season. Dont count on it staying that way...
How is Joey not the #1 at Penske this season? Unless...
Because of course if you did... you would be proven wrong.
Good point. But if you read back I do agree with some opinions.. it's more for certain people that are being dicks lolYou asked people for their opinions, then want to prove everyone wrong that doesn't pick Logano? lol
Im only looking at this year... cant ask whos #1 at Penske and include Joey stats from Gibbs...
154 head to head matchups each beating each other 77 times.Then your hold thread falls apart.
You cant conviniently just look at this year when Joey just happens to be having his best run of his career.
As of this date, Brad its the man there.
Also @dpkimmel2001 where did you get that stat from?
77 Wins a piece? I'm confused...as always. lol
154 head to head matchups each beating each other 77 times.
Stats from racing-reference.
And after this weekend it'll be in Joeys favourYes, my apologies, I read that a few posts later.
I think right now they are giving Logano better cars because he's in the Chase.
Ask Denny Hamlin. He just said it last week during one of his little diatribes.Do people actually think stuff like that could be true ?
Do people actually think stuff like that could be true ? What would Miller Lite think about that ?
So...how do they know which chassis is going to be faster ? Or ..do they swich them after qualifying ? No ...that wouldn't work because the faster qualifying car is not always faster on long runs ....Maybe the one with better gas mileage , in case it turned out to be a fuel mileage race ? ...A fortune teller would work ...Do you think it doesn't happen in an attempt to win the Cup or that they don't use non-chase teams for R&D?
I've seen Terry Labonte go on the track for NO other reason than to scuff tires for the other HMS teams.
Come on.
So...how do they know which chassis is going to be faster ? Or ..do they swich them after qualifying ? No ...that wouldn't work because the faster qualifying car is not always faster on long runs ....Maybe the one with better gas mileage , in case it turned out to be a fuel mileage race ? ...A fortune teller would work ...
ThisOf course SlicedBread doesn't want to used Joey Logano's career stats to compare him to other drivers. That is because the stats aren't favorable.
They know a lot about the cars from previous races.
I don't think that the reigning champ all of sudden forgot how to drive and his teammate found some magic potion in the affluent neighborhoods of Middletown, Conn.
What organization wouldn't shift their focus to the team(s) they have in the chase? Isn't that what they're all out there for - the top prize?
So , last week when Brad outqualified Joey , that was a mistake ? We won't see that again ?
They don't tell Miller Lite. Simple as thatDo people actually think stuff like that could be true ? What would Miller Lite think about that ?
So...how do they know which chassis is going to be faster ? Or ..do they swich them after qualifying ? No ...that wouldn't work because the faster qualifying car is not always faster on long runs ....Maybe the one with better gas mileage , in case it turned out to be a fuel mileage race ? ...A fortune teller would work ...
Hamlin said it happens in an interview he gave recently. You make some good points, but when it comes down to it, who should we believe... someone that actually races in the Cup series or someone that belongs to a nascar message board?