With the apparent success of the Clash at the Coliseum, I'm convinced Stadium Racing is how NASCAR can revitalize the All Star Race

Greg said:
Staduim racing is caged racing it is not organic free range racing.
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Be careful what you say Greg, or you will have the animal rights activist's breathing down NASCAR's neck. :)
 
StandOnIt said:
Monster trucks for years have ran their show in stadiums
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Yep, them and the Monster Supercross are here at Anaheim Stadium in Jan, and Feb. My buddy has tickets for us for the supercross race this Sat.
 
Now if they will split them up on teams and have the L.A. Maulers VS. the Charlotte Mashers They will have something. lol
 
StandOnIt said:
Now if they will split them up on teams and have the L.A. Maulers VS. the Charlotte Mashers They will have something. lol
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I recall the never-launched TRAC series was going to be 3-car teams 'based' in major cities (where 'based' meant everyone would work out of Charlotte and the only connection to other cities would be the team names).
 
It's been pretty obvious for about a decade that the longer tracks make for boring races. The problem is that NASCAR has too much money tied up with their cookie cutter tracks.
 
sloggie said:
It's been pretty obvious for about a decade that the longer tracks make for boring races. The problem is that NASCAR has too much money tied up with their cookie cutter tracks.
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Right... bc abandoning Chicago, abandoning Kentucky, Texas losing a points-paying date, Auto Club/California losing a date, Michigan losing a date, Charlotte getting millions of $$$ dumped into it to get a race off the oval, and Homestead threatened to be on the chopping block all equate to NASCAR having too much money tied up with their cookie cutter tracks to enact change. :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

We are in a good place. Honestly I would take another 1.5'er over Birstol dirt. And I'd rather have another 1.5 mile race than another road course being added.
 
Yeah I think NASCAR has the 1.5/2.0 stuff going the right direction. I wish they’d ditch a Kansas (spring) race for Iowa & maybe the Brickyard Oval back, but that’s about it. Nashville Superspeedway will probably be moved to the Fairgrounds.
 
AuzGrams said:
Yeah I think NASCAR has the 1.5/2.0 stuff going the right direction. I wish they’d ditch a Kansas (spring) race for Iowa & maybe the Brickyard Oval back, but that’s about it. Nashville Superspeedway will probably be moved to the Fairgrounds.
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I'm fine with and/or understand all the choices on the schedule other than Richmond still having two dates...that's a head-scratcher and has been for 10+ years.
 
Speedbowl14 said:
I'm fine with and/or understand all the choices on the schedule other than Richmond still having two dates...that's a head-scratcher and has been for 10+ years.
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Richmond has really good Modfified, Truck, Xfinity races recently. Not sure why the Cup races are hit and miss. The fall race was very well packed so I’d rather see it stay and improve the track for the Cup series.
 
I would love to see 15 short track dates between 4/10s and 6/10s of a mile.
15 road course dates.
3 Darlington dates

Ovals larger than 6/10s of a mile could share the other five remaing dates.
 
Speedbowl14 said:
I'm fine with and/or understand all the choices on the schedule other than Richmond still having two dates...that's a head-scratcher and has been for 10+ years.
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I think that's another track that directly declined due to stage racing with the others being Michigan, Pocono, Sonoma. Strategy was always big there due to the non-existant cautions in the 2nd half of the race but now pit atrategy is meaningless
 
Daytripper said:
15 road courses would be horrible.
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Exactly!!!
2 road course dates used to be horrible when the racing was better. The current road course situation was/is a band-aid solution to the sh!tty racing product.
Hopefully the crate car will change that. Sadly, I think we are stuck with at least as many road courses as we have now.
 
Spotter22 said:
Richmond used to be one of the best races on the circuit. It can be again.
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I’ll always believe in Richmond, I hope they always have 2 races on the calendar and won’t give in to the masses with short attention spans by losing a race. Hopefully this new car can show how awesome Richmond can be, I’m optimistic we can get back to it being the “Action Track”
 
Spotter22 said:
Richmond used to be one of the best races on the circuit. It can be again.
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Ya I agree. Great crowd all weekend last September, which is why I’m disappointed they made it an August day race instead of night. Track renovations look good, love that the track is close to town. All in all a great facility.
 
wi_racefan said:
I think a lot of people probably said that about the winner of the all star race getting a million dollars too. Eventually everything gets old

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I think they have to change the format a bit. ( inflation) Million to the "winning team" and a Million to the charity of choice for second place car.
 
Team Penske said:
I think they have to change the format a bit. ( inflation) Million to the "winning team" and a Million to the charity of choice for second place car.
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$5 million to the winner. 50% must go to charity(s). Anything under $5 mil as a prize really doesn't even seem big these days, as sad as that is
 
Speedbowl14 said:
I'd rather see them race at short tracks we already have. NASCAR as a company was willing to spend huge $$$ to completely build/tear down a track. It would be less $$$ to use existing short tracks and make small upgrades to them. There's a ton of short tracks out there that could be NASCAR-ready with a few improvements (certainly less than needed for the LA race we just had). A lot of stuff could be split 50/50 between NASCAR and the track like SAFER walls and media facilities. Other stuff like temporary bleachers could be owned by NASCAR and brought into events as-needed.
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wi_racefan said:
Harvick already floated that idea out there. Use these events to make improvements to existing tracks so you have something valuable left after the race. Also with improvements it brings the opportunity for additional future races. Many on here were quick to shoot it down.....
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Exactly, this way all the money NASCAR spends on a 1-time event has a lasting event on the local short track. Plus it gives the race a novelty feel kind of like what MLB did with the Field of Dreams game. And I'm still holding out hope that NASCAR is building towards a Clash race or All-State race at North Wilkesboro in the coming years.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It’s not the track size, it’s the high population major TV market.
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Which sucks IMO but there's always going to be the struggle between growing the sport and sticking to your roots. They tried growing the sport in the early 2000's and that was a big failure. It's a tough balance. NASCAR has done a good job in some respects with moving the Southern 500 back to Labor Day weekend, putting 2nd races back at Darlington and Atlanta and keeping 2 races at Martinsville which is a remote track. Although the lights I'm sure were a big part of that. Get a race back at Nashville Fairgrounds and North Wilkesboro and I will be sold
 
At present, the All-Star race is pretty much purposeless.

What's the point of running a shortened race with a limited number of drivers on a track that's capable of hosting a full length race with a full field of drivers?

The All-Star race would actually have a purpose if it were held at a facility that cannot host a full length race with a full field of drivers.

IMO, NASCAR should either move the All-Star race to a facility that would give the race a reason for existing, or get rid of the race.

(And, give Texas Motor Speedway its spring race again)
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
At present, the All-Star race is pretty much purposeless.

What's the point of running a shortened race with a limited number of drivers on a track that's capable of hosting a full length race with a full field of drivers?

The All-Star race would actually have a purpose if it were held at a facility that cannot host a full length race with a full field of drivers.

IMO, NASCAR should either move the All-Star race to a facility that would give the race a reason for existing, or get rid of the race.

(And, give Texas Motor Speedway its spring race again)
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That's a good one. Ya need a reason to have a race..hmm how about just because. :idunno:
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
What's the point of running a shortened race with a limited number of drivers on a track that's capable of hosting a full length race with a full field of drivers?

The All-Star race would actually have a purpose if it were held at a facility that cannot host a full length race with a full field of drivers.

IMO, NASCAR should either move the All-Star race to a facility that would give the race a reason for existing, or get rid of the race.

(And, give Texas Motor Speedway its spring race again)
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The All-Star race is actually a big sell, a lot of casual fans would almost rather watch the All-Star race.

I’m glad Texas & NASCAR is bringing back the pit stop qualifying. Hopefully they bring back the pit stop competition the week of again soon.
 
Charlotte is also a track where the All-Star race is purposeless, as that track can host a full length race with a full field.

I've felt that the All-Star race is a purposeless race for many years.

IMO, moving the All-Star race to a track that cannot host a full length race with a full field is the only way to make this race purposeful.

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I'd rather TMS have two full length races a year. But, TMS losing its spring race allowed COTA to enter the schedule. Perhaps I shouldn't complain too much.
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
Charlotte is also a track where the All-Star race is purposeless, as that track can host a full length race with a full field.

I've felt that the All-Star race is a purposeless race for many years.

IMO, moving the All-Star race to a track that cannot host a full length race with a full field is the only way to make this race purposeful.

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I'd rather TMS have two full length races a year. But, TMS losing its spring race allowed COTA to enter the schedule. Perhaps I shouldn't complain too much.
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It has plenty of purpose, 1 million dollars to the winner.
 
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