Would you rather have a top 2 or championship 4 at Homestead-Miami?

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Top 2 creates a rivalry between two drivers, and it also creates more suspense in the Round of 4/semi-final rounds, and would put more emphasis on playoff points in the regular season.

Cup: 16 > 8 > 4 > 2
Xfinity: 12 > 8 > 4 > 2
Trucks: 8 > 4 > 2

- Winner advances to next round.
- Winner in Round of 4 race automatically advances unless there is 3 winners, tiebreaker by points earned.
- Highest finisher at Homestead-Miami wins championship
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Let me be the first to take this completely off track: I'd rather we had a championship determined by who has the most points at the end of the full season.
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Novel idea.

My hopes are that NASCAR continues to change the post season, Eventually they'll get it back to what it was in the pre-Chase era, presenting it as an innovative idea. Maybe that is their unapologetic plan to get us back on the right track?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Let me be the first to take this completely off track: I'd rather we had a championship determined by who has the most points at the end of the full season.
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This. This. This. Best team with the best driver with the best body of work over a course of a full year should be rewarded. I’m hoping one day maybe in my old age it will be what it was...it’s going to take a couple of colossal flops (Someone who was close to winning like Newman in 14, Gordon in 15, Reddick this year pulls it off in Cup) to even entertain the idea of that happening but I don’t think I’m a bad fan for hoping it happens. For the true logic of a playoff....I Wouldn’t be opposed to even a 4 car race with the championship 4 if you’re going to apply that playoff logic of stick and ball sports.
 
Another thing to consider I think winning the Daytona 500 pays more now too. They took most of the money out of it. How much impact will that have
 
I don't hate the final 4, however they do need to change this whole whoever finishes ahead of the other 3 deal.

NASCAR created stages for a reason, so use them. Why have them in the final race if we're not going to utilize them for their points? Set your final 4 for Homestead, but make it about points earned throughout the race. Stage points, stage wins, etc. Whoever earns the most points that day is the champion. This would bring a lot more strategy into the fold as well.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
NASCAR created stages for a reason, so use them. Why have them in the final race if we're not going to utilize them for their points?
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Because the stage points matter to the non-Championship teams who earn them. Those teams are still racing for their season-ending positions.
 
AuzGrams said:
Top 2 creates a rivalry between two drivers, and it also creates more suspense in the Round of 4/semi-final rounds, and would put more emphasis on playoff points in the regular season.

Cup: 16 > 8 > 4 > 2
Xfinity: 12 > 8 > 4 > 2
Trucks: 8 > 4 > 2

- Winner advances to next round.
- Winner in Round of 4 race automatically advances unless there is 3 winners, tiebreaker by points earned.
- Highest finisher at Homestead-Miami wins championship
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Seriously, if NASCAR wants a playoff, then institute a fricking PLAYOFF.
  • No 'win and you're in'. Instead, increase the points awarded for winning to 60; race winners should always get the most points for the race.
  • After the 27 race, the top 8 drivers in points (including stage points) are seeded - 1st vs. 8th, 2nd vs. 7th, etc.
  • Run races 28, 29, and 30.
  • The driver in each pairing with the most points for those three races advances. Regular season points don't count; only the points for the races in this round (including stage points).
  • Reseed 1st vs 4th, 2nd vs. 3rd
  • Run races 31, 32, and 33.
  • Again, the drivers with the most points in each pair advances. The two remaining drivers compete head-to-head in races 34, 35, and 36. They probably will still be close enough in points after two races that the championship will still be in play. Driver with the most points in the final round is the champ.
NASCAR gets its 'Game 7' moment, there's less possibility a fatal problem during an 'all or nothing' final race will decide the champion, and points fans get something closer to what we want.
 
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I thought it strange that the four finalists were pretty much running together the whole race. That hasn't happened all year. I think the other drivers were racing to stay out of the way. Only a few drivers mixed it up with them. I don't think I'd want to watch a race where they were just two contestants racing.
 
Personally, I'd rather not have 1 race to decide everything. Too many uncontrolled things can determine the outcome of a race. But that's what NASCAR wants to build hype. The championship round should be like the others - three races. No offense to Tyler Reddick, he didn't have a championship season.
 
In other forms of racing, they usually end their season with some big event that will still get all kinds of attention even if the championship is already determined. Before NASCAR went to these big contracts, they could have had something like that - have a race that paid $10 million to the winner. But these days, the drivers are already making so much money and NASCAR never tells us what the races pay any more.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
I don't hate the final 4, however they do need to change this whole whoever finishes ahead of the other 3 deal.

NASCAR created stages for a reason, so use them. Why have them in the final race if we're not going to utilize them for their points? Set your final 4 for Homestead, but make it about points earned throughout the race. Stage points, stage wins, etc. Whoever earns the most points that day is the champion. This would bring a lot more strategy into the fold as well.
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This isnt a terrible idea, but maybe cut it down to just two drivers .
 
Folks. A full season points system hasnt been around for 15 years. At this point, its not NASCAR's fault that some of us cant let go of this fustration. Move on. The people IN the sport have. Fans should too

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jaqua19 said:
Folks. A full season points system hasnt been around for 15 years. At this point, its not NASCAR's fault that some of us cant let go of this fustration. Move on. The people IN the sport have. Fans should too

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I think that there are a lot of fans that did just that. They moved on.
 
Kyle Busch had 8 wins, 4 poles, 22 top 5s, 28 top 10s in 36 races and isn’t champion. Christopher Bell had 7 wins and lost to a guy who won the season opening lottery at Daytona and Homestead bowl. There is no point spending money to attend races or even to watch in tv when the entirety of the season is that pointless.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
There is no point spending money to attend races or even to watch in tv when the entirety of the season is that pointless.
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That depends on whether you can watch individual races for entertainment without caring about a season or a champion. I certainly don't care about championships on those occasions I'm fortunate to be at the track.

To each his own.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
Kyle Busch had 8 wins, 4 poles, 22 top 5s, 28 top 10s in 36 races and isn’t champion. Christopher Bell had 7 wins and lost to a guy who won the season opening lottery at Daytona and Homestead bowl. There is no point spending money to attend races or even to watch in tv when the entirety of the season is that pointless.
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Agree
 
I prefer the idea of 1 vs 1, but 1 vs 4 is more exciting in NASCAR because it reduces the chance of 1 driver being eliminated early due to a wreck. 1 vs 40 without a playoff is better than both..
 
Snappy D said:
This. This. This. Best team with the best driver with the best body of work over a course of a full year should be rewarded. I’m hoping one day maybe in my old age it will be what it was...it’s going to take a couple of colossal flops (Someone who was close to winning like Newman in 14, Gordon in 15, Reddick this year pulls it off in Cup) to even entertain the idea of that happening but I don’t think I’m a bad fan for hoping it happens. For the true logic of a playoff....I Wouldn’t be opposed to even a 4 car race with the championship 4 if you’re going to apply that playoff logic of stick and ball sports.
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Make it a 10 car race prior to the season final event.
 
If NASCAR was going to make the championship finish as a two-man race only, it would weaken their credibility even further.
If you really wanted drama, then make those two cars start in the last row and give bonuses to anybody who could rub on 'em...
And repeat that for every restart, including the inevitable phantom debris caution with five laps to go...
Give them until the checkered flag to repair any damage, but the champion must cross the finish line under his own power before the other car can.
 
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