Xfinity RACE thread --- Darlington

jaqua19 said:
Turn 3. To me, that looked like he was trying to arc in a late turn.

Larson has done some questionable things before, but I think this is just a product of the slick, narrow Darlington. When Ricky Craven made his move on Kurt Busch in turn 4 back in 2003, he doored him. That was exciting. Kurt wasn't mad, and no one took issue.

Rubbing is racing. That's what this was, imo.

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Oh it’s definitely racing deal. Just was told Larson never touched him and to take off my #9 glasses. So I was showing Larson did indeed touch him.
 
jaqua19 said:
Goes both ways. People say he does no wrong, and people act like this was egregious.

It was hard rubbing racing, and a product of this race track.

I couldn't care less about an Xfinity win. But this is the kind of racing this track has historically put on. Neither driver was wrong here.

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Oh yeah like I said in a few other replies, this wasn’t anyone’s fault.
 
Blaze said:
Hell now looking at that, the time it seems people wanna say JHN tried wrecking him, Larson actually slide up on him there also. But Larson does no wrong to some folks.
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He came up because he got hit in the right rear
 
Blaze said:
Oh it’s definitely racing deal. Just was told Larson never touched him and to take off my #9 glasses. So I was showing Larson did indeed touch him.
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Well, in their defense, that was reasonable confusion, since turn 2 was initially said, right?

I love this place man, it's one of the best speedways on the circuit. Racing like this here should be the norm in the same way wrecking is the norm at Talladega.

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Blaze said:
Oh it’s definitely racing deal. Just was told Larson never touched him and to take off my #9 glasses. So I was showing Larson did indeed touch him.
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I said in 1-2 he never touched him.
 
Efisher131 said:
Yes, he lightly doored him. Something that happened 50+ times today I bet throughout the field during the race.
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All I was saying is they was bumping each other. Never said it was a bad thing. People wanting to place on JHN but give Larson a pass. That’s my problem here.
 
I think the two of you generally have the same opinion about the incident, It's hilarious lol

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Blaze said:
All I was saying is they was bumping each other. Never said it was a bad thing. People wanting to place on JHN but give Larson a pass. That’s my problem here.
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I do think you can reasonably interpret that he tried to get into the back of him since Larson got into him, and then pulled a slider, frustration is expected.

You could also argue both drivers were out of control, because, like we said, turn 3 Darlington lol..

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jaqua19 said:
I think the two of you generally have the same opinion about the incident, It's hilarious lol

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Yeah haha. I’m not saying Larson did anything wrong at all there. Which I feel he thinks I’m saying he did.
 
Blaze said:
Exactly. JHN got into him him because Larson slid up into him. **** happens.
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I dunno, look at the angles of the cars here. JHN aimed pretttyyy far left.
 
jaqua19 said:
I do think you can reasonably interpret that he tried to get into the back of him since Larson got into him, and then pulled a slider, frustration is expected.

You could also argue both drivers were out of control, because, like we said, turn 3 Darlington lol..

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It’s why I love this track. As long as you don’t dump someone, or just straight up slam into them, I’m good. It’s why I waited to see the reply of the finish. Seen Larson bounced off the wall and was like fair game, wasn’t on purpose
 
Blaze said:
It’s why I love this track. As long as you don’t dump someone, or just straight up slam into them, I’m good. It’s why I waited to see the reply of the finish. Seen Larson bounced off the wall and was like fair game, wasn’t on purpose
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I think where we can agree is that Darlington is amazing and I’m pumped for tomorrow and hoping for a Hendrick win
 
Blaze said:
Screenshots can make things look different. If my gif you can see Larson slide up as well. It’s okay to admit your guy made a mistake. Doesn’t change anything about the finish.
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If there’s a car inside of you, and you try to run the bottom lane, you’re the one making a mistake
 
Efisher131 said:
If there’s a car inside of you, and you try to run the bottom lane, you’re the one making a mistake
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We can just agree to disagree on that part. Could be honestly Larson was sliding up as JHN was coming down and they met in the middle tbh. But I don’t believe JHN was trying to wreck him.
 
Blaze said:
We can just agree to disagree on that part. Could be honestly Larson was sliding up as JHN was coming down and they met in the middle tbh. But I don’t believe JHN was trying to wreck him.
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I do. I think he went Old Testament eye for an eye and ended up in fence. That said, if he was that cool about it after, I’ve way way softened my stance.
 
Blaze said:
We can just agree to disagree on that part. Could be honestly Larson was sliding up as JHN was coming down and they met in the middle tbh. But I don’t believe JHN was trying to wreck him.
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I think it was very much what happened between Larson and KB at Chicagoland.

Larson doored him, they were both in the wall, at that point, both drivers are gonna beat on each other to either secure the win, or in JHN's case, take it back. I don't think he was trying to wreck him, but I do think he was trying to not let Larson clear him/not lift out of 4. Intentionally getting into him at that point? I think so.

But at that point, that's just hard racing.

JHN is feeling himself if you watch the extended interview on YouTube. Called it good hard fun racing and he seems grateful for being able to race a cup champion. A lot happier than I would have been.

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jaqua19 said:
I think it was very much what happened between Larson and KB at Chicagoland.

Larson doored him, they were both in the wall, at that point, both drivers are gonna beat on each other to either secure the win, or in JHN's case, take it back. I don't think he was trying to wreck him, but I do think he was trying to not let Larson clear him/not lift out of 4. Intentionally getting into him at that point? I think so.

But at that point, that's just hard racing.

JHN is feeling himself if you watch the extended interview on YouTube. Called it good hard fun racing and he seems grateful for being able to race a cup champion.

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Glad you bring up The Larson Busch thing. My dad was so heated at Kyle Busch and I was like hey, Larson got into him first hah. If it’s the race I’m thinking about anyways.

But yeah, I don’t see where anyone really did anything wrong in this case for sure, and gave me a good finish. Im happy
 
Blaze said:
Glad you bring up The Larson Busch thing. My dad was so heated at Kyle Busch and I was like hey, Larson got into him first hah. If it’s the race I’m thinking about anyways.

But yeah, I don’t see where anyone really did anything wrong in this case for sure, and gave me a good finish. Im happy
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Yup that race. "if you don't like that kind of racing, don't even watch"

I think there's a variety of different *pairs* of drivers who are okay with racing like that and accept it as normal, without it being an issue. You use me up, too much? Okay. I'll use you up...too much. Oh, you're brushing it off as hard racing? Okay. Cool. I guess I know I can use you up, and I guess you can use me up too.

Logano is one of those guys. And I respect the **** out of him for it. He's agressive..and when he gets it back, he never acts like a hypocrite, and calls it racing.

Larson is similar, implies no hard feelings. But a lot of these guys don't just say "okay, we're racing like that now since you're cool with it."

And I do not understand why Chase Elliott and Larson can't be like that. Chase runs people hard, overagressively at times, and is physical. Except with his teammates. Larson will race everyone, including his teammates the same. When Larson has implied that him getting run hard in return wouldn't be an issue, I just don't understand why Chase can't run him as hard. There's obviously no consequences for Larson using up teammates, and Elliott can and should expect the same thing.

Personally, I'd rather see them race each other hard, and over agressively and be cool with it. I think there would be a lot less tension between fans of each driver.


Remember when Carl Edwards moved Kyle Busch out of the way for the win at Richmond in 2016? Not a mistake. Deliberately moved his teammate. Admitted it in victory lane saying "we both have wins, out here racing for fun..."

No one took issue with that. Not fans. Not the drivers. Not the organization

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Nemechek is a very good driver but I knew Larson had him at the final restart. Larson is a rare talent.
 
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