Yellow Line Rule

Jeff is NASCAR's poster boy and will be given certain privileges that other drivers will not. NASCAR can be selective when they want to be.
 
You're right about one thing...he clearly went below to the yellow line and passed.

But he is no longer NASCAR's poster boy, Jr is.
 
I don't know Paul though both sell tickets. At least Jr. drove a clean race but of course he was in front much of it.
 
Yeah I noticed that right away to. Old idiot DW was quick to try and cover it up.
 
Originally posted by mngopherguy@Feb 8 2003, 07:41 PM
Yeah I noticed that right away to. Old idiot DW was quick to try and cover it up.
That is so right! I like how whenever there is a crash the first person they try to find out that made it through was Gordo.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang+Feb 8 2003, 10:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (66mustang @ Feb 8 2003, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--mngopherguy@Feb 8 2003, 07:41 PM
Yeah I noticed that right away to. Old idiot DW was quick to try and cover it up.
That is so right! I like how whenever there is a crash the first person they try to find out that made it through was Gordo.[/b][/quote]
Exactly!! "Oh thankfully Gordon made it through"
 
Someone else could have to, its hard to tell when all they focus on is jeff and dale all day. More and more do I see why some people dislike jeff so much, not because of the yellow line thing but because of the atention. I feel feel the same thing for jr.

As for the yellow line move me and a friend were doing a project when the race was on, and I must have missed it. Will they show a replay of the race I would like to see it again.

Im not trying to deny it, Im sure it happened and if it did does not surprise me to much. I have seen other drivers get away with things before as well though.
 
Originally posted by mngopherguy+Feb 8 2003, 10:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mngopherguy @ Feb 8 2003, 10:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -66mustang@Feb 8 2003, 10:05 PM
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@Feb 8 2003, 07:41 PM
Yeah I noticed that right away to. Old idiot DW was quick to try and cover it up.

That is so right! I like how whenever there is a crash the first person they try to find out that made it through was Gordo.
Exactly!! "Oh thankfully Gordon made it through" [/b][/quote]
I am thankful when he makes it through :p
 
I dunno... You all be the judge.
 

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He didn't actually pass at that moment but it did force the #17 car up the track.
 
As near as I can tell from my tape, Jeff went below the line, but didn't pass.

If I remember correctly, the rule says you can't advance your position by going below the line.

So apparently you could drive down there, but just be sure not to pass anyone.
 
Oh Gosh!!!! It is going to be a long season. The anti Gordonites are already out in full force and we have not raced lap one yet. I just saw the replay and he definately did not pass below the yellow line. Now when Matt Kenseth took the lead, his left tires were clearly over the yellow line. Matt must be the knew poster boy.
 
That photo shows that Jeff was indeed inside the yellow line and that move did help him gain position. He did not pass while under the line so I guess that's why it was okay.
 
He was also clearly below the yellow line when he passed Mark Martin with about 15 laps to go.
 
It did look like Gordo went below the line to make a pass... but I guess it doesn't really matter.. cause it didn't get him in victory lane! My boy took that place over for the night!!
 
I think they said it was legal because both drivers tires did not go below the line..I did not see it I just heard the explanition of it so I dont know.
 
Originally posted by Highboy90@Feb 9 2003, 10:56 AM
I dunno... You all be the judge.
like I said I did not see this but could he of had a burst of steam and was trying not to run in the back of this driver. And had to go below the line??
 
A "burst of steam." LOL Call it what you want. The way I saw it was he was below the line by choice and used that move to gain position.

True though, it did not help Jeff this time. ;)
 
And like I said I did not see that spot... I as refilling my drink and heard them talking about it whn I came back in
 
Please, he wasn't even under the yellow when he pulled up next to him. I guess nobody noticed Matt going below the yellow because he is not a 4 time Winston Cup Champion. :p
 
Just a stupid rule that NASCAR can't hope to inforce 100% of the time. This will be an Issue next week too.
 
With that clip you prove he didn't go below the line when he actually passed him, he might of been below the line before the actual pass, but alot of the drivers go below the line, as the rule says as long as your not gaining a position, which he didn't when he was below.
 
I seen that clip as well, if that is breaking the yellow line rule then about 8 other cars broke that rule during the night. They even showed one driver ride below the yellow line when he didn't pass and they talked about it.
 
Originally posted by LooneyToonRacer@Feb 9 2003, 06:51 PM
With that clip you prove he didn't go below the line when he actually passed him, he might of been below the line before the actual pass, but alot of the drivers go below the line, as the rule says as long as your not gaining a position, which he didn't when he was below.
I never said that Jeff actually passed a car while under the yellow line did I? All I said was that he gained a position by going under the yellow line and forced the 17 to go high so he could get by and gain a position.

Did he break the rule? Guess not. Did he bend the rule? I say yes. Jeff caused an accident last year by pulling a similar stunt.
 
Jeffy's losing big time. In the courts and on the track. Who's whining?
 
I wonder if Tony, Jr., Martin, Newman, or any other favorites will try this move. Apparently NASCAR decided to change the rules again. Didn't gain the position by the move LMAO. I guess the #17 just moved up and let him by. :wacko:
 
Originally posted by Highboy90@Feb 10 2003, 02:44 AM

["I never said that Jeff actually passed a car while under the yellow line did I? All I said was that he gained a position by going under the yellow line and forced the 17 to go high so he could get by and gain a position.
Did he break the rule? Guess not. Did he bend the rule? I say yes. Jeff caused an accident last year by pulling a similar stunt."]

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Jeff Gordon did not break nor did he bend the rules in the Bud Shootout. The "yellow line" rule at Daytona and Talledega is very clear. When a driver goes below the yellow line to advance his position he gets black flagged.

Jeff Gordon went below the yellow line but he did not improve his position. He stayed behind Kenseth until all four wheels were above the yellow line. And how does anyone figure Gordon "forced" Kenseth high. Gordon never touched the 17 to force him up. Rather, the 24 had room to get under the 17 out of the turn because Kenseth was unable to keep the 17 car down in the low groove giving the 24 car the opening. No incidental contact, just smart driving. Gordon going below the yellow line prior to that was not a violation of any rule. It showed the 24 had a good handling car and could stay in the low groove both through and out of the turn. So how is this "bending" the rules???
 
jeff didn't advance on matt, but he drop below yellow line when/while he was passing mark matin for the lead after pit stops..i have it on tape and watched a few times just to see....he did break the rule....maybe because it was a non points race, nascar didnt give a chit or wasn't payin close attention.... :)
 
I remember seeing him pass mark I just didnt see him go below the yellow line when passing mark, looked like the same thing with the 17 to me.

Oh well this is just like the bristol night race with rusty, it will be a arguement / issue over the next few weeks.
 
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