2026 Silly Season

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MRM said:
It seems like Toyota has not made it a priority to get Heim to move up the ladder all that quickly, unlike what Chevrolet has done with Zilisch. If he leaves Toyota, it wouldn't be a surprise.
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The Yotas have pretty much moved people up out of the Trucks, skipped over the Trucks with some while meanwhile Heim has been kept in the Trucks. I wouldn't think Heim owes them any loyalty but you never know. I don't think Spire is as good a ride as 23XI, but you never know with Heim driving. He's pretty damn good.
 
StandOnIt said:
The Yotas have pretty much moved people up out of the Trucks, skipped over the Trucks with some while meanwhile Heim has been kept in the Trucks. I wouldn't think Heim owes them any loyalty but you never know. I don't think Spire is as good a ride as 23XI, but you never know with Heim driving. He's pretty damn good.
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23XI would have been better served putting Heim in the #35 instead of Herbst.
 
Okay, I'm missing something (as usual). Why is it Denny's responsibility to find Heim a home? Is Corey under contract to 23XI? If not, this sounds more like Toyota's development problem than 23XI's.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Okay, I'm missing something (as usual). Why is it Denny's responsibility to find Heim a home? Is Corey under contract to 23XI? If not, this sounds more like Toyota's development problem than 23XI's.
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Yeah it's Toyota's responsibility.

Heim won't ever get a ride at JGR because Baby Rev doesn't like him. So the options are 23XI and Legacy.
 
StandOnIt said:
Oh yea Legacy is just screaming along in 21st and 23rd place.
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With Spire technically ahead in 20th and 22nd. Not much of a difference but I still have the impression Spire is improving more quickly.

I don't think any driver with a half decent agent would look at 23XI until this is settled. Denny and MJ may have a seat or two open up whether they like it or not, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to sign up with them. 23FRM's situation is going to put some drama in what looked like a relatively quiet Silly Season.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
With Spire technically ahead in 20th and 22nd. Not much of a difference but I still have the impression Spire is improving more quickly.

I don't think any driver with a half decent agent would look at 23XI until this is settled. Denny and MJ may have a seat or two open up whether they like it or not, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to sign up with them. 23FRM's situation is going to put some drama in what looked like a relatively quiet Silly Season.
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What if Tyler Reddick bails to compete with a chartered team? Which is within his rights.
 
HoneyBadger said:
What if Tyler Reddick bails to compete with a chartered team? Which is within his rights.
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That's what I meant by a seat opening up. If you were Heim, would you sign with an unchartered team? I'd call Reddick and ask him why he's jumping ship. I'm betting the answer would involve administration and not the racing side of the organization.
 
While I wouldn't blame Reddick, I don't know where he would go. I don't recall anything available that wouldn't be a significant step down. I think the #99 at Trackhouse would have been the best option but that's already gone. I guess it depends on whether Reddick thinks the team will get its charters back if it wins, whether it will be able to acquire new ones if it loses*, and how long he's willing to wait before trying a limited market.

* I don't know if we here at R-F have discussed much on the subject of what 23XI and FRM do if they lose. The charters they had evaporated and currently there aren't any more to get. While the ones FRM lost were their original freebies, 23XI has already 'invested' in three Vapor Papers (TM). Does NASCAR remain at 32 charters until 23FRM go away? If so, creating six more after those teams are gone will generate a lawsuit that will make this one look like something on 'People's Court'.
 
kkfan91 said:
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it will be an absolute laughable offense if TRD lets Heim walk because of an issue with Grandson Ty. The body of work for Ty's Cup career has been underwhelming at best and starting to venture into "Bust territory". I guess every Manufacturer needs a nepo baby that takes up space, Chevrolet has Pop Pop's grandson driving the flag ship ride of one of its organizations, JGR/TRD shouldn't be any different.
 
Nepo babies
Ty Gibbs-4 years, 111 Cup races, 0 wins
Austin Dillion- 15 years, 432 Cup races, 5 wins.


Shane Van Gisbergen 3 years, 38 Cup races, 5 wins
 
I wonder if teams are leaving options open if a Reddick becomes avaliable with all the lawsuit stuff
 
That's an odd turn of events. But applying logic, maybe not. It sounds like the 3rd charter is in question for next year and what are the terms of the contract for Preece? We know Brad's not going anywhere and there may only be 2 seats for 3 drivers next year
 
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