Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

Charlie Spencer said:
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And the cheaters were punished, at least those that were caught. I don't recall the #22, Penske, or Ford among those.
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They were? This year it is Custer being told save your tires when he was behind the 22 and it's the last lap along with Bowman being told the same thing behind Chastain? Coincidence? Two teams from completely different organizations saying the same thing?

The Nascar official who did nothing (because it would show how bogus this clown show is) now is saying this?

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MRM said:
It says more people are dumping cable/satellite than what we previously thought. NASCAR was dumb to sign a TV deal where most races are on cable.
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Pretty sure it wasn't all Nascar to blame. They aren't the people with the money and a TV network.

 
gnomesayin said:


Steve-O is saying many of the right things now, but he didn't think or say any of them a few years ago. This is a good sign that those who have known all along the damage the playoffs cause are finally breaking through and have momentum.
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I feel like the longer it goes the more likely it is they're going back to a full season. When he says things like you what you illustrated there in the tweet, they're leaving bread crumbs. and the fact Southern Jesus has now lost his shyness about his disdain for the playoffs, I think its more likely now than ever they're going back.
 
StandOnIt said:
They were? This year it is Custer being told save your tires when he was behind the 22 and it's the last lap along with Bowman being told the same thing behind Chastain?
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I was referring to last year, since the prior posts had referred to Logano.

We're not going to agree on the past, but we can agree on the future.
 
StandOnIt said:
They were? This year it is Custer being told save your tires when he was behind the 22 and it's the last lap along with Bowman being told the same thing behind Chastain? Coincidence? Two teams from completely different organizations saying the same thing?

The Nascar official who did nothing (because it would show how bogus this clown show is) now is saying this?

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Wonder if Moody sends out 4am talking points to them. Never heard so much BS. Can't wait to see what Freddie has to say about talking points during race no DBC.
 
Loved how Amanda was asked if they told teams no talking about points during race, she said no they did not. Then she said they did warn two teams in Xfinity race about talking about points during the race. WOW.
 
gnomesayin said:


Steve-O is saying many of the right things now, but he didn't think or say any of them a few years ago. This is a good sign that those who have known all along the damage the playoffs cause are finally breaking through and have momentum.
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I wonder where he got all of his talking points? I mean this goes all the way back to Brian France. It wasn't long after that when fans started the discussion about the playoffs and then came all of the clunky rules they made to continually try to cover up the stinking mess Brian France created.

I have no fantasy that a season long points system is going to cure all ills. The old point system had it's flaws, I don't believe there is a perfect points system. But I do believe it won't take much to have a much better one then they have now.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I was referring to last year, since the prior posts had referred to Logano.

We're not going to agree on the past, but we can agree on the future.
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Lol, no we are surly not. I don't have selective memory. They have been cheating and getting caught or not getting caught for as long as there have been the playoffs. The point is they have a format that is ripe for cheating, it doesn't matter if they get caught or not, it is because there is the opportunity.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Then you'll remember there was cheating before the playoffs, just in different forms.
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As you continue to move the goalposts, It's good to remember we are talking about the playoffs. 3 post up says I don't have any Pollyanna dreams that all will be perfect with another points system. But it is almost impossible to find a point system as riddled with opportunities to cheat em up like this one has.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Then you'll remember there was cheating before the playoffs, just in different forms.
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Only in the playoffs era did the sanctioning body have to codify a comical "100% rule" that stipulates that racing teams must attempt to finish the race in the best position they can. A rule that must be selectively enforced because huge incentives are in place to break it.
 
If you want to really dive deep. Race manipulation has been going on a very long time. I'd call entering a car into a race thats meant to be laps down and exit the race if need be so a driver can get the finish they need to clinch a championship race manipulation.
 
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