2024 Next Gen Car

I think it is a good move to up the H.P. on the slower speed tracks where aero isn't as much of a problem. They say it would cost teams overall around 40 million to go higher than 750 with the engines. With the engine re-use rules they have in place I wonder if we will see many failures next year.
 
I don’t miss cars dropping out for drive train failures.
I think we will see some kaBooms in the latter part of the year when teams are using motors that have already raced earlier. What happens is you get couple of drivers saying we need more H.P. and then the recliner racers get up in arms and away it goes. It will be something new to complain about next year. I don't think 80 H.P. is going to be detectable unless you were one who was hysterical about more H.P.. I couldn't tell when they slowed them down a tic years ago. 3/4's of a second on a 1.5 track is pretty hard to tell if you ask me. I think they have gained it back anyhow.
 
I think we will see some kaBooms in the latter part of the year when teams are using motors that have already raced earlier. What happens is you get couple of drivers saying we need more H.P. and then the recliner racers get up in arms and away it goes. It will be something new to complain about next year. I don't think 80 H.P. is going to be detectable unless you were one who was hysterical about more H.P.. I couldn't tell when they slowed them down a tic years ago. 3/4's of a second on a 1.5 track is pretty hard to tell if you ask me. I think they have gained it back anyhow.
On the podcast, O'Donnell implied 750 is the new minimum and it's possible NASCAR will increase it again with the debut of a new engine manufacturer in three years.
 
On the podcast, O'Donnell implied 750 is the new minimum and it's possible NASCAR will increase it again with the debut of a new engine manufacturer in three years.
What he said did make sense. 750 with the current engine architecture was an easy move. What he said they wanted to avoid is bringing in a new manufacturer building to this engine rules package, and then changing rules enough to need to develop another new engine. Wait until the new players come to introduce that. The big hint is that the future powerplants may be even higher horsepower. Gotta like that.
 
What he said did make sense. 750 with the current engine architecture was an easy move. What he said they wanted to avoid is bringing in a new manufacturer building to this engine rules package, and then changing rules enough to need to develop another new engine. Wait until the new players come to introduce that. The big hint is that the future powerplants may be even higher horsepower. Gotta like that.

That’s where I think a hybrid could come into play. Regardless this is awesome for the road courses and places like Martinsville. We finally have a car that won’t cut the tire at the slightest impact, the low HP just makes it too easy to block
 
What he said they wanted to avoid is bringing in a new manufacturer building to this engine rules package, and then changing rules enough to need to develop another new engine. Wait until the new players come to introduce that.
I think they'll have to introduce a new powerplant first, probably hybrid, before another manufacturer signs on. Dodge can knock the dust off its V8 ICE capability but I don’t know about anyone else developing it.
 
I think they'll have to introduce a new powerplant first, probably hybrid, before another manufacturer signs on. Dodge can knock the dust off its V8 ICE capability but I don’t know about anyone else developing it.
Penske has a full machine shop for Mopar unless he sold it.
 
Sounds like Ilmor would probably be the best bet for a Dodge Cup engine. Ilmor has been working with Nascar for a long time even longer with Penske from the 70'-80's. New engines are mandated by Nascar to be hybrid ready 2026+
 
The engine Penske built, nothing would work with today's engines that they are using. Chysler/Dodge has all of the technical property including what Penske did about engineering the heads and intakes. Dead end.
 
This is why the gerbils look stupid? when they are screeching with fake drama about drivers running out of fuel and they don't.

 
Pern with a titanium side skirt on the flat bill board right side of Truex's car.

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This is why the gerbils look stupid? when they are screeching with fake drama about drivers running out of fuel and they don't.

Thanks.
 
Going down the road a bit further, I could be wrong, but comparing Larry Mac to Steve LeTarte about when teams have to pit for fuel, or clutch moments when fuel saving is critical, my opinion is that Larry Mac wins that comparison between the two hands down.
That's not limited to fuel discussions.
 
Eh, it's also reflective of NBC's higher emphasis on drama.
Yeah, Larry Mac would mention the fuel numbers and the booth would go on announcing the race. The NBC version is Letarte mentions fuel, Burton's ears go up FUEL? !!! and out comes the graphics, the endless lecturing on how you deal with saving fuel, who is the best fuel saver, LeTarte not to be out done, launches into his egg on the throttle story, and Fish or whatever his name is goes to the can because he knows it is going to be awhile before he will be able to get a word in.
 
Let's see what a narrower tire does first. Smaller wheel would mean whole different brake packages
And? The current stuff is crap. Lot of rotors explode or warp and have to be changed DURING practice. The whole car is a failed experiment. Go back to proven parts plus take 500lbs off these sleds.

Or just let the sport die.
 
I think the way they are going with the softer tires cut out all of the B.S. with new rims. brakes whole new tire molds etc, and then G/Y has to figure/test out new tire formulas, blah blah blah.
 
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Doesn't a narrower tire mean less mechanical grip and more reliance on areo grip (which I know we here at RF all love)?
The whole objective is to reduce grip to increase off throttle time. Everyone running around almost wide open doesn't allow for a difference in speed
 
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The whole objective is to reduce grip to increase off throttle time. Everyone running around almost wide open doesn't allow for a difference in speed
I don't understand the reasoning, nobody is going to show up with a turbo and have 100 more HP than the others. The era of the least passing was when they had high HP, aero was king out front (physics). As we saw yesterday, Byron had comfortable lead, lost the front end for a second and got passed. Drivers with better tires than worn out ones are faster and can pass. Drivers who make mistakes get passed. Top Cup drivers don't hardly ever make mistakes.
Same thing applies to letting off in the corners. Who is naive enough to think that Cup drivers will have a problem with that lol.
 
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