2025 schedule news/rumors

Nostalgia is hella of drug lol I remember when everyone had a meltdown when NASCAR took the Southern 500 date away from Darlington and gave it to Fontana. Yes, the racing did improved with the old surface, but it’s really weird to see people act like this track was always amazing. I always thought it was a “low budget” Michigan.

California Speedway was always an underrated track, people just didn’t like the fact the Southern 500 wasn’t on Labor Day.
 
Nostalgia is hella of drug
This is the common fall back to say when older is sometimes better than newer. Fans were PO’d when the Southern 500’s Labor Day date was taken from Darlington and given to Fontana. The best I can remember, Fontana was held in a high regard at least a higher regard than Texas and Kansas by the fans.
 
It would behoove some people to pay attention to direct quotes from Ben Kennedy...jus sayin.
 
This is the common fall back to say when older is sometimes better than newer. Fans were PO’d when the Southern 500’s Labor Day date was taken from Darlington and given to Fontana. The best I can remember, Fontana was held in a high regard at least a higher regard than Texas and Kansas by the fans.

I have a different memory. I remember people hating Fontana in the early-mid 2000s. The finishes got better but it was still average at best, definitely not worth of the "OH GOD HOW COULD THEY TAKE THIS AWAY FROM US?" reaction I've seen from some.

The best thing to happen to Fontana was the original asphalt wearing. If they had repaved the original configuration, we'd get a decade of boring racing before things got exciting again.
 
I have a different memory. I remember people hating Fontana in the early-mid 2000s. The finishes got better but it was still average at best, definitely not worth of the "OH GOD HOW COULD THEY TAKE THIS AWAY FROM US?" reaction I've seen from some.

The best thing to happen to Fontana was the original asphalt wearing. If they had repaved the original configuration, we'd get a decade of boring racing before things got exciting again.

Probably hated it because Dale Jr was constantly running horrible in Fontana. lol
 
I have a different memory. I remember people hating Fontana in the early-mid 2000s. The finishes got better but it was still average at best, definitely not worth of the "OH GOD HOW COULD THEY TAKE THIS AWAY FROM US?" reaction I've seen from some.

The best thing to happen to Fontana was the original asphalt wearing. If they had repaved the original configuration, we'd get a decade of boring racing before things got exciting again.
It’s just kind of meandering always blaming these tracks when the racing is bad. At what point will the cars be pointed at as a problem?
 
It’s just kind of meandering always blaming these tracks when the racing is bad. At what point will the cars be pointed at as a problem?

There are some objective track conditions that make for poor racing. For example, a wide green race track with a single groove is not going to produce a lot of passing and will disproportionately benefit teams that hit on the right set up. The problem is that attempts to fix that (PJ1...etc) only make things worse.
 
There are some objective track conditions that make for poor racing. For example, a wide green race track with a single groove is not going to produce a lot of passing and will disproportionately benefit teams that hit on the right set up. The problem is that attempts to fix that (PJ1...etc) only make things worse.
Maybe a track design/ engineering issue?
 
Sad they can’t get rid of Iowa & Gateway for other markets. Nothing special.
 
There are some objective track conditions that make for poor racing. For example, a wide green race track with a single groove is not going to produce a lot of passing and will disproportionately benefit teams that hit on the right set up. The problem is that attempts to fix that (PJ1...etc) only make things worse.
Bro, just call out Texas by name
 
Iowa sold out before tickets even officially went on sale. It's likely not going anywhere

I think Iowa has about 30k seating capacity so between a small number of seats and an inaugural event I’d expect it to sell out quickly.
 
I’m still waiting on a few more standalone tracks like Rockingham & Road America, Mexico City, other New markets for the Xfinity Series on The CW. Maybe even St. Louis or North Wilkesboro or IRP deserve something including a possible standalone.

I’m not sure if I really like the 2024 schedules other than Iowa.

It’s a shame how NASCAR & SMI sorta waste money on some things when they could fix up California & Atlanta back to non-gimmicky racing. There’s other American markets they refuse to spend $$ on as well.
 
I’m still waiting on a few more standalone tracks like Rockingham & Road America, Mexico City, other New markets for the Xfinity Series on The CW. Maybe even St. Louis or North Wilkesboro or IRP deserve something including a possible standalone.

I’m not sure if I really like the 2024 schedules other than Iowa.

It’s a shame how NASCAR & SMI sorta waste money on some things when they could fix up California & Atlanta back to non-gimmicky racing. There’s other American markets they refuse to spend $$ on as well.
It's their money to "waste". ;)
 
I think NASCAR should just buy Irwindale instead of converting Auto Club to be honest, and spend the money they would have spent converting Auto Club on bringing Irwindale up to Cup standards. It's also much closer to LA than Auto Club is. And is basically ready to go
Irwindale ain't bad but it’s still in a very industrial area and would need a lot of seats and amenities built up.
 
A June Sunday night race on NBC. The atmosphere might be cooled off for thunderstorm potential by the time the race starts, but it’s a Cup race, so.

I'm looking forward to Iowa for two reasons.

1.) It's a solid racetrack and I'm honestly glad to see this track get a Cup date.
2.) NBC takes over, meaning no more Fox Sports.
 
I'm looking forward to Iowa for two reasons.

1.) It's a solid racetrack and I'm honestly glad to see this track get a Cup date.
2.) NBC takes over, meaning no more Fox Sports.

It’s a good racetrack but the lack of seating expansion is a bit eh.
 

47 DEGREES OF BANKING???

:eek2:

Yeah, 'cause we need yet another plate track. Unlike Atlanta, at least SMI won't be sacrificing a perfectly good track this time. And 49 feet wide; that will satisfy the wreckage lovers.

Oh, regardless of what the PR department sez, 1.25 miles ain't no bullring, no way, no how.
 
47 DEGREES OF BANKING???

:eek2:

Yeah, 'cause we need yet another plate track. Unlike Atlanta, at least SMI won't be sacrificing a perfectly good track this time. And 49 feet wide; that will satisfy the wreckage lovers.

Oh, regardless of what the PR department sez, 1.25 miles ain't no bullring, no way, no how.
The key word in the tweet is that it's a parody account.
 
I missed that.

I should be fired.
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47 DEGREES OF BANKING???

:eek2:

Yeah, 'cause we need yet another plate track. Unlike Atlanta, at least SMI won't be sacrificing a perfectly good track this time. And 49 feet wide; that will satisfy the wreckage lovers.

Oh, regardless of what the PR department sez, 1.25 miles ain't no bullring, no way, no how.
I consider anything to be an improvement. Would like to them paperclip one end of the track to get an egg shape that would eliminate the pack racing along with some 80 grit sandpaper like asphalt.

But unfortunately they will probably go with the pack racing option

If it don't get any better they will have time rename it to Fort Worth Speedway
 
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