Silly Season 2025

[kkfan91]

Mario Andretti, AJ Foyt, David Pearson, and Dale Sr. They'll field a fifth car at road courses for Paul Newman.

They found the loophole that it never says 3/5ths of your driver lineup has to be alive.

 

[Formerjackman]

Building a driver roster for when 23XI breaks up Nascar and they become all Hendrick cars.

NASCAR wanted to limit teams to THREE charters. I don't think they are going to budge on allowing more than four in the foreseeable future.

 

[Dr_B_UNC]

Building a driver roster for when 23XI breaks up Nascar and they become all Hendrick cars.

A full on Corvette series due to Mr. H's affection for the model? Yes please!

 

[Charlie Spencer]

They found the loophole that it never says 3/5ths of your driver lineup has to be alive.

That discriminates against those who are differently enabled metabolically.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

A full on Corvette series due to Mr. H's affection for the model? Yes please!

Fielded entirely from his own collection?

 

[StandOnIt]

Fielded entirely from his own collection?

Hell no, many of them are serial #1.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Hell no, many of them are serial #1.

So you're saying Stenhouse is out?

 

[kkfan91]

Hell no, many of them are serial #1.

That just raises the stakes when you go to Talladega.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

That just raises the stakes when you go to Talladega.

40 cars all trying to run at the back of the pack.

 

[hmmm298]

That just raises the stakes when you go to Talladega.

That would be a fun time to add a figure 8.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

That would be a fun time to add a figure 8.

Tony'd come back from retirement for that one.

 

[StandOnIt]

So you're saying Stenhouse is out?

I wouldn't let Stenhouse close to one lol.

 

[Team Penske]

Sheldon Creed can't.

But he sure can run second place which is very good for the sponsor.

 

[Old 97]

That may be so, but I mean let’s be honest here, it’s getting less support than the 2, 12, and 22. Plus sometimes people don’t go well with teams. It happens.

How so?
They have one shop at Penske. The cars are all assembled in the same building by the same people.

 

[Blaze]

How so?
They have one shop at Penske. The cars are all assembled in the same building by the same people.

even with most real multi car teams, typically one car is gonna get less resources than others. I don’t see them putting as much into a car that’s not even really there’s as the ones that are.

 

[wi_racefan]

even with most real multi car teams, typically one car is gonna get less resources than others. I don’t see them putting as much into a car that’s not even really there’s as the ones that are.

When they control the entire personnel from driver to crew chief to engineer its their team.

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[StandOnIt]

I think the 21 car starts to lose speed when it leaves the Penske garage on it's way to the Wood brothers.

 

[Blaze]

When they control the entire personnel from driver to crew chief to engineer its their team.

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Could they right now buy a charter if one as available and run a car full time? If so, it’s not their car because that would make them have 5 cars.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

I think the 21 car starts to lose speed when it leaves the Penske garage on it's way to the Wood brothers.

So it's the hauler driver's fault.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Could they right now buy a charter if one as available and run a car full time? If so, it’s not their car because that would make them have 5 cars.

Do you know the difference between 'de jure' and 'de facto'?

 

[ahhculdee]

They found the loophole that it never says 3/5ths of your driver lineup has to be alive.

What about bringing in Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner

 

[Blaze]

Do you know the difference between 'de jure' and 'de facto'?

I do, that’s why I said a team that’s not really there’s.

 

[cheesepuffs]

21 is literally a Penske car and team. The 21 car is the pride of Ford Motor Company and so that number and the Wood Bros name will never die, but that car is a bonafide Penske ride.

 

[Blaze]

I’m just saying, I don’t think that they would put as much love and care into that car, over the 2,12, and 22, three cars that have the Penske name on it, that are actually owned by Penske. If the 21 car some how won the owners championship, Penske wouldn’t get the trophy, that’s all I mean. But I’m done talking about it now. Good day.

 

[StandOnIt]

So it's the hauler driver's fault.

exactly.

 

[MRM]

Look at who the past two drivers of the #21 have been - Matty D and Harrison Burton. Enough said.

 

[StandOnIt]

Look at who the past two drivers of the #21 have been - Matty D and Harrison Burton. Enough said.

Well, TBH I don't think they are making a huge leap forward with Josh Berry either.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Look at who the past two drivers of the #21 have been - Matty D and Harrison Burton. Enough said.

Matt Burrito couldn't accept that no matter how well he did, he was told up front he was a one-season filler and the car was going to someone else, period. If the car hadn't been previously committed, he performed well enough to have been worth considering for the seat. If he had handled the situation more professionally, another Cup team might have given him a shot.

Harrison? Nah, I got nothing.

 

[wi_racefan]

Could they right now buy a charter if one as available and run a car full time? If so, it’s not their car because that would make them have 5 cars.

They found a loophole. Penske is a 4 car team and JGR is essentially a 6 car team, no matter what Dennis says.

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[Charlie Spencer]

JGR is essentially a 6 car team

If 23XI doesn't have the charter income, will it be able to afford JGR's services?

"Things that make you go 'Hmmmmm?' "

 

[wi_racefan]

If 23XI doesn't have the charter income, will it be able to afford JGR's services?

"Things that make you go 'Hmmmmm?' "

Depends how deep MJ wants to reach into his pockets.

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[StandOnIt]

They found a loophole. Penske is a 4 car team and JGR is essentially a 6 car team, no matter what Dennis says.

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I don't know of any other teams who are supposedly separate, but they all meet together for competition meetings.

 

[Old 97]

I think the 21 car starts to lose speed when it leaves the Penske garage on it's way to the Wood brothers.

Which Wood Bros shop????
The museum in Stuart Virginia or the shuttered building across the road from Jenny Jo Cobb's shop???
The Penske 21 never even gets closer than a few miles from a Wood Brothers property.

 

[Kiante]

If 23XI doesn't have the charter income, will it be able to afford JGR's services?

"Things that make you go 'Hmmmmm?' "

I don't think that will be much of an issue, to be honest.

 

[cheesepuffs]

I think the 21 car starts to lose speed when it leaves the Penske garage on it's way to the Wood brothers.

The 21 car never goes from Penske to the Wood Bros. The Wood Bros haven't had a functioning shop for years. The 21 is build at Penske alongside the 2/12/22, gets loaded into a hauler from Penske to the track and then back to Penske. The "Wood Bros" drivers, so Harrison right now, are in the same weekly performance meetings at Penske as Blaney/Cindric/Logano, and they also ride the Penske jet to and from the track. Logano said a few weeks ago that Harrison sits next to him on the plane every single weekend. "Wood Bros" is just a legacy name for heritage now.

 

[JBone88]

I'm calling it now.

Somehow Harrison lands in the 6 car in the next... Two or three years, tops.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised by this. If Cole Custer can be dropped from and then return to the 41 car, Harrison can get a second Cup chance too.

Doesn’t hurt his last name is Burton and he has money behind him. And Ford has no obvious prospects in the pipeline.

Harrison deserved to be demoted this year, but he won some races in Xfinity not too long ago. We’ll see how he does at AM Racing next year.

 

[JBone88]

Well, TBH I don't think they are making a huge leap forward with Josh Berry either.

I like Berry. He’ll be better than Burton. But don’t expect him to run much better or worse than DiBenedetto did in that car.

 

[StandOnIt]

I like Berry. He’ll be better than Burton. But don’t expect him to run much better or worse than DiBenedetto did in that car.

Yeah I agree. Berry is not close to as terrible as Burton or as stupid as DiBenedetto. I think he will do decent and maybe has found himself a long term cup ride.

 

[donthaveanickname]

Well he's young so there's room for improvement, no one seriously expects Ty to suddenly start being good.

Top 5 at Kansas yesterday...

 

[StandOnIt]

Trophy hunting?