Damaged Vehicle Policy Changes?

Charlie Spencer said:
I don't know why it was taken out of the teams' hands in the first place. Was this an issue before a few weeks ago and I somehow missed it?
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I think the idea from most folks was that it was a simplied way to cut cost....before it got complicated and implicatious.
 
I thought the rule was ignorant to start with. You build a car with rub strips in the bottom, put skinny profile tires on it and from the beginning they have had problems with flats on the track. So lets make a blanket rule that any car that can't drive after a wreck has to be pulled into the garage and is out of the race or the fan's infield whatever is convenient.
 
It sounds to me like they are just going to have more stringent application of the rule that was beyond stupid in the first place. Tow every car car back to the pit, and they either beat the clock or they don't. I doesn't get more simple or fsir than than than that but NASCAR specializes in over complicating everything .
 
Formerjackman said:
It sounds to me like they are just going to have more stringent application of the rule that was beyond stupid in the first place. Tow every car car back to the pit, and they either beat the clock or they don't. I doesn't get more simple or fsir than than than that but NASCAR specializes in over complicating everything .
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The kicker is that the ground crews are going to decide if the car is dead and going to the garage or if it can be fixed in the pits. You know the crew chiefs are not going to let the drivers put the window net down in almost every case no matter what condition the car is in. Who knows how this is going to turn out.
 
The rule was to stop cars that were beat to **** going back out for points and causing another caution in a lap or two. I can't argue with the thought but it opened up more cans of worm as we have seen. If points are on the line any driver will try and make a lap. If it's a big wreck they can make up 5 or 6 points so you can't blame them. Problem is when they try but fail to make up said lap.
 
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Added note... yes the DVP was to cut down on costs... a lesser-known point is that the haulers were approaching the legal weight limit on the highway from all the extra crap they had to bring once teams got into fabricating "sections" of car that could be mounted on in case of a crash.

That said... DVP is stupid and needs serious change. This most recent controversy is one of many issues. After a few "cleaner" years, I've noticed in the past few seasons the teams are putting crap cars hastily thrown back together back on track.
 
Big John Kordic said:
Can’t say I’m on board with that last one. A car may be unable to make it back, but still “easily” repairable within the time allotted under the DVP, e.g. dogbone.
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I think in a lot of cases when the dog bone is gone they can flip flop their way to the pits. Two dog bones? I think she's dead.
 
We aren't going to see Dega damage anyway. The hairpin at 7 they are going to be going a lot slower. That's a really slow turn. After they get strung out it will be a lot of two and three car involvements shall we say. That's what I'm guessing anyway. I think there will be wall shots in 7.
 
StandOnIt said:
We aren't going to see Dega damage anyway. The hairpin at 7 they are going to be going a lot slower. That's a really slow turn. After they get strung out it will be a lot of two and three car involvements shall we say. That's what I'm guessing anyway. I think there will be wall shots in 7.
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Yeah, it's not really an issue again in Daytona.
 
Speedbowl14 said:
Added note... yes the DVP was to cut down on costs... a lesser-known point is that the haulers were approaching the legal weight limit on the highway from all the extra crap they had to bring once teams got into fabricating "sections" of car that could be mounted on in case of a crash.

That said... DVP is stupid and needs serious change. This most recent controversy is one of many issues. After a few "cleaner" years, I've noticed in the past few seasons the teams are putting crap cars hastily thrown back together back on track.
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And there is the problem with the clock. I would MUCH prefer the teams be able take the car back to the garage and spend a couple extra minutes making good repair in a safe place instead of making a hasty repairs on a busy pit road.
 
Formerjackman said:
And there is the problem with the clock. I would MUCH prefer the teams be able take the car back to the garage and spend a couple extra minutes making good repair in a safe place instead of making a hasty repairs on a busy pit road.
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Except they take them back and make hasty repairs, like they used to do. That's why the rule was implemented.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Except they take them back and make hasty repairs, like they used to do. That's why the rule was implemented.
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There’s more tools, equipment and parts in the garage than there are on pit road.
Either they stick to the rule as it’s written or they don’t.
Making amendments to the rules on the fly, during the race shows the incompetence of the governing body.
 
Formerjackman said:
Two things would fix that. A more stringent minimum speed, and a rule that says if anything flies off your car after you back out, you get parked.
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Unless it the 9 car, he has a special set of rules

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wi_racefan said:
Unless it the 9 car, he has a special set of rules

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Your anger should be directed at the sanctioning body that tends to make up rules and procedures on the fly, not the recipient. It's not the 9's fault if NASCAR makes a wrong or inconsistent ruling that happens to benefit them.
 
Formerjackman said:
Your anger should be directed at the sanctioning body that tends to make up rules and procedures on the fly, not the recipient. It's not the 9's fault if NASCAR makes a wrong or inconsistent ruling that happens to benefit them.
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Not mad at the 9 team in anyway. Just funny how these calls always seem to benefit them.......
 
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