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I've looked at their race used items they sell before, well out of my price range.
 
I think Nascar shot themselves in the foot with this ruling. It's not because Larson, but for the sport in general.
Then Nascar falls all over themselves and makes a format change to guarantee that Helio and others in the future can make the 500 THEIR most popular race.

 
They got stuff, I'm telling you. Cleaning house.


It appears Hendrick has a large surplus auction coming up at the end of the month and in March over on IronHorseAuction. Individual listings/
 
Yeah, I couldn't believe there were so many specialized parts and Hendrick only pieces. The oil pumps that looked like a mini roots style blower and the one piece cooling manifold blew my mind. I see how they can run them so hot. The radiator that had lead shot in it lol.
 
I guess if you are a small Xfinity team you could use some of this stuff, especially if you are on a budget but in reality most of this stuff is out of date or it would still be in inventory, This is just a glimpse in to the world of racing when the sanctioning body makes rule changes.
 
StandOnIt said:
I think Nascar shot themselves in the foot with this ruling. It's not because Larson, but for the sport in general.
Then Nascar falls all over themselves and makes a format change to guarantee that Helio and others in the future can make the 500 THEIR most popular race.

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I'm not sure why it's surprising that NASCAR is taking steps to ensure they have as many big names in their big races as possible. Anyone who is a star in NASCAR (like Larson) that wants to try this just needs to understand that NASCAR should still be their priority and if things don't work out then they don't work out and he still has a responsibility to the sponsors and NASCAR they pay his paycheck.

I have a full-time job and a part time job and had to sign a "moonlighting" agreement which has many clauses in it that I have to acknowledge that if I want to do it, it cannot interfere with my full time job and my full time job is the priority. I am all for drivers doing different stuff and even doing the double. Just can't miss the big race.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
I'm not sure why it's surprising that NASCAR is taking steps to ensure they have as many big names in their big races as possible. Anyone who is a star in NASCAR (like Larson) that wants to try this just needs to understand that NASCAR should still be their priority and if things don't work out then they don't work out and he still has a responsibility to the sponsors and NASCAR they pay his paycheck.

I have a full-time job and a part time job and had to sign a "moonlighting" agreement which has many clauses in it that I have to acknowledge that if I want to do it, it cannot interfere with my full time job and my full time job is the priority. I am all for drivers doing different stuff and even doing the double. Just can't miss the big race.
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I don't think you get it, probably don't want to, truth be known. Nascar has said with their waiver that they guarantee that drivers from other racing series can have a spot in the Daytona 500 if they are approved. While on the other hand, Nascar when one of their drivers want to race the Indy 500, They pay a penalty. That is ANY driver. No penalty for racing any dirt races. :cuckoo:
 
Drivers are contracted to the teams that field their cars.

Terms vary, but nobody is skipping a Cup race without the authorization of the car owner.
 
StandOnIt said:
I don't think you get it, probably don't want to, truth be known. Nascar has said with their waiver that they guarantee that drivers from other racing series can have a spot in the Daytona 500 if they are approved. While on the other hand, Nascar when one of their drivers want to race the Indy 500, They pay a penalty. That is ANY driver. No penalty for racing any dirt races. :cuckoo:
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But that's exactly what I am saying. It seems contradictive because it is. NASCAR wants the big names on their big stage. That's why they are allowing others to come in and putting things in place to penalize their guys if they miss a race. It's really not complicated at all and makes perfect sense when it comes to protecting the brand. I just don't see the issue. They are not completely forbidding their drivers from doing other stuff - they are just saying "you better show up for your day job" and trying to avoid a precedent being set where stars like Larson start taking races off. When Larson plans the double attempt this year he just needs to understand the 600 is the priority and have a relief driver ready go for the 500 if he needs to bail. Others before him did the double and had no issues getting to the 600.
 
Tim_Richmond_Fan said:
Kyle works for Mr. Hendrick, not NASCAR. If Rick wants Kyle to run the full Indy 500, that is what Kyle will do.
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LOL. I seriously doubt Mr. H will have Kyle bypass the chance to win a title and prioritize the 500 over the 600. In my view they all race for NASCAR but you are not wrong in that if Kyle wanted to do it all costs and Mr. H was okay with then it would happen regardless of NASCAR's rules.

I think this whole thing got more complicated than it needed to really. In most years he could do both without issue - last year was a fluke but IMO he made thew wrong choice whether Mr. H backed it or not and now because of that NASCAR had to act to protect the product. That's just my opinion though.
 
aunty dive said:
Hendrick funded Larson’s Indianapolis effort.
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Yeah I get that but what I am saying is do you really think that Mr. H will tell Kyle to skip the 600 if it comes up again and miss the chance to run for a cup title? I think not but if I turn out to be wrong I will be the first to admit it. LOL Plus there is nothing wrong with the rules NASCAR put in place - they make perfect sense when you remove bias for or against a driver and what they want to do and think of it from a larger view of protecting the brand and being able to market the best drivers on the biggest stage.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
Yeah I get that but what I am saying is do you really think that Mr. H will tell Kyle to skip the 600 if it comes up again and miss the chance to run for a cup title? I think not but if I turn out to be wrong I will be the first to admit it. LOL Plus there is nothing wrong with the rules NASCAR put in place - they make perfect sense when you remove bias for or against a driver and what they want to do and think of it from a larger view of protecting the brand and being able to market the best drivers on the biggest stage.
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Rick has a closet full of Cup championship and Coke 600 trophies. What he DOESN'T have is a Borg Warner Trophy. (Yes, I KNOW you don't get the trophy) If you are a guy like Mr. H and you have climbed every mountain NASCAR has to offer MULTIPLE times, you start to look for things you don't have, and when you are in the extremely enviable position of not really having to answer to ANYONE but yourself, why NOT stay in Indy? I said it before, and I'll say it again. If I'm in Rick's shoes, I'm staying in Indy and not losing one second of sleep over it, but of course to me, Indy is the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and Moses's tablets all wrapped up in one. I'm the guy that literally weeps when they play "Back Home Again in Indiana" (The actual title of the song is JUST "Indiana" by the way, and in it's natural form is an up tempo song). For me, just stepping into the Brickyard is like a pilgrim's trip to Mecca.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
think of it from a larger view of protecting the brand and being able to market the best drivers on the biggest stage.
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What this rule and your response overlook is how NASCAR benefits from having its drivers do both races. There is no bigger stage in the sport than the I500. Monaco is a snooze and while Charlotte is a longer race, it doesn't have the global attention. Having a driver make the attempt brings more attention to Charlotte than it gets otherwise. It's also to NASCAR's advantage to be able to say only its drivers have made the attempt; none of the open-wheelers have tried it so far.

Chase Fan 79 said:
there is nothing wrong with the rules NASCAR put in place
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To me, the big flaw is the penalty is weighted against championship contenders and has no impact on drivers who don't make the playoffs. Drivers have nothing to lose if they don't make the playoffs, or who get in on points or a single win.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
What this rule and your response overlook is how NASCAR benefits from having its drivers do both races. There is no bigger stage in the sport than the I500. Monaco is a snooze and while Charlotte is a longer race, it doesn't have the global attention. Having a driver make the attempt brings more attention to Charlotte than it gets otherwise. It's also to NASCAR's advantage to be able to say only its drivers have made the attempt; none of the open-wheelers have tried it so far.


To me, the big flaw is the penalty is weighted against championship contenders and has no impact on drivers who don't make the playoffs. Drivers have nothing to lose if they don't make the playoffs, or who get in on points or a single win.
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I just disagree - I highly doubt very many watching the 500 will think "hey I am going to check out NASCAR because of that Larson guy." Maybe some will sure but that will have little impact and it's all about obligations to TV and tracks to me. If NASCAR is not doing everything in their power to ensure they have the stars there then those places could argue breach of contract. Lots of people don't want to think about the obligations part of it.
 
Formerjackman said:
Rick has a closet full of Cup championship and Coke 600 trophies. What he DOESN'T have is a Borg Warner Trophy. (Yes, I KNOW you don't get the trophy) If you are a guy like Mr. H and you have climbed every mountain NASCAR has to offer MULTIPLE times, you start to look for things you don't have, and when you are in the extremely enviable position of not really having to answer to ANYONE but yourself, why NOT stay in Indy? I said it before, and I'll say it again. If I'm in Rick's shoes, I'm staying in Indy and not losing one second of sleep over it, but of course to me, Indy is the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and Moses's tablets all wrapped up in one. I'm the guy that literally weeps when they play "Back Home Again in Indiana" (The actual title of the song is JUST "Indiana" by the way, and in it's natural form is an up tempo song). For me, just stepping into the Brickyard is like a pilgrim's trip to Mecca.
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I just can't imagine Rick saying it's cool to not run for a championship. Too many people put way too much work in for that. Again - just my opinion. If he ends up allowing it I will eat some crow for sure but I will admit it. I know he technically allowed it last year but that was knowing it was all but certain they would get a waiver. All for not really given that Larson did not make the final 4.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
I just can't imagine Rick saying it's cool to not run for a championship. Too many people put way too much work in for that. Again - just my opinion. If he ends up allowing it I will eat some crow for sure but I will admit it. I know he technically allowed it last year but that was knowing it was all but certain they would get a waiver. All for not really given that Larson did not make the final 4.
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When you sign on with the 5 car, you go in KNOWING that your driver has other focuses outside of NASCAR. It either works for you or it doesn't. There's hundreds of people that will happily take your place working for a generational talent. It was the same way with Tony Stewart, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Dan Gurney, the list goes on and on.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
Well here's Kyle's thoughts on a championship


Seems it means more to those who are not a fan of the guy than those that are. Personally as a KL fan myself...... its Indy 500 or bust this year.
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He didn't say anything that many of think about the playoffs. They destroyed almost any chance of a multiple 7 time winner of the cup and on one hand "WE reward winning" win and you're in.
Larson wins 6 times and who cares, the same with the final 3 out of the 4. Logano with the weakest record wins, same as last year with Blaney. So I hope Hendrick says screw it we're going to Indy. :idunno:
 
Charlie Spencer said:
What this rule and your response overlook is how NASCAR benefits from having its drivers do both races. There is no bigger stage in the sport than the I500. Monaco is a snooze and while Charlotte is a longer race, it doesn't have the global attention. Having a driver make the attempt brings more attention to Charlotte than it gets otherwise. It's also to NASCAR's advantage to be able to say only its drivers have made the attempt; none of the open-wheelers have tried it so far.


To me, the big flaw is the penalty is weighted against championship contenders and has no impact on drivers who don't make the playoffs. Drivers have nothing to lose if they don't make the playoffs, or who get in on points or a single win.
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I wonder if, with them likely changing the playoff format next year, they will even keep this rule. Pretty convenient with Kyle trying again this year tbh.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
I just can't imagine Rick saying it's cool to not run for a championship. Too many people put way too much work in for that. Again - just my opinion. If he ends up allowing it I will eat some crow for sure but I will admit it. I know he technically allowed it last year but that was knowing it was all but certain they would get a waiver. All for not really given that Larson did not make the final 4.
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Not sure about Rick etc, they could go either way, but who says he's not running for the championship? I agree it's unlikely, but I'd wager Kyle is confident enough in his ability to win races to advance anyway, even if he did not make it this year.

It could go either way, let's just all hope it doesn't with the weather.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
That's not working for fans when the stick-and-ball teams sit their stars going into the playoffs, so I don't think it will work here either.
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That's a good point but I think it kind of goes to what I am in saying in that the NBA was facing a lot of controversy about that this year like when the 76ers were resting all their guys and fans were pissed and questioning why they should buy a ticket when the teams are playing that game. I heard the NBA was cracking down on it because of the fans being mad a rightly so. Now imagine of Joel Embid was healthy and skipped out on the 76ers to go play a big game in Europe. People would be outraged.
 
Formerjackman said:
When you sign on with the 5 car, you go in KNOWING that your driver has other focuses outside of NASCAR. It either works for you or it doesn't. There's hundreds of people that will happily take your place working for a generational talent. It was the same way with Tony Stewart, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Dan Gurney, the list goes on and on.
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Sorry but I am not buying that for a second. Yes Kyle had other focuses and everyone knows that going in but the 5 car is supposed to be his main priority and that's what we are talking about here. People work their asses off to get to a top-caliber championship car like that. It's totally cool that he goes and does other stuff but to suggest that if you are on the 5 team you accept the possibility of not winning a title because Kyle has other stuff to do and might decide not to show up is just wrong. I was a Kasey Kahne fan before Chase and loved when Kasey went and did other stuff and thought he was a better driver for it. Ironically, he started seeing decline around the time he was told to stop doing so much other stuff so I truly support it. Again though - there is an obligation to fans, sponsors, TV, tacks and so on and NASCAR just can't even appear to be OK with guys skipping races voluntarily to do other stuff. Larson fans can cry foul all they want but this really had to be done if you are looking at it objectively and not in a biased way. What annoys me is that if Kyle has better things to do and does not care about a championship then why does he not just run part time and be done with it? NASCAR will survive without him just fine if they can move on from names like Earnhardt and Petty and he can do his thing and show up when he likes and all this goes away. It reeks of some arrogance to me really that he wants it all his way and expects rules to cater to it. There is a guy named David Pierson that ran part time a lot and still won more races than most and is regarded as one of the best ever.
 
The 76ers have the exclusive rights to Joel Embiid's competitive basketball play. If Joel Embiid plays in France instead of the NBA, it is because the NBA and 76ers wanted that to happen, which means they collectively see more value in him playing that game than they do suiting up for the 76ers.

It isn't like I don't understand what the rub in that statement is for NASCAR fans. But I, not identifying as "NASCAR fan" but rather "racing fan", don't have negative feelings about that. The Coke 600 is never going to matter more to me than the Indy 500, and the NASCAR Playoff Championship absolutely, positively, cannot hold a candle to how I perceive the Indy 500, especially now that the split has been over longer than it happened. If Kyle Larson did win 20 races but lost to Joey Logano at the 2025 Phoenix Finale, it would change absolutely nothing for me in terms of how I would perceive who the better driver is or whether or not Larson did more things that I valued.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
What annoys me is that if Kyle has better things to do and does not care about a championship then why does he not just run part time and be done with it?
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Because he races for money and he's being paid to race full time in Cup. If someone came to him for a deal for the same money and half the races, he'd probably do it. That deal doesn't exist.
 
StandOnIt said:
He didn't say anything that many of think about the playoffs. They destroyed almost any chance of a multiple 7 time winner of the cup and on one hand "WE reward winning" win and you're in.
Larson wins 6 times and who cares, the same with the final 3 out of the 4. Logano with the weakest record wins, same as last year with Blaney. So I hope Hendrick says screw it we're going to Indy. :idunno:
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If Hendrick can't get better at Phoenix they may as well just do that. NASCAR does not want to admit that this format only favors winning at the right times/tracks and if last season did not prove that then nothing will. Chase won Texas but would have made the playoffs regardless had he not and then was 10-15 laps away from winning Martinsville which would have propelled him into the final 4 winning only one race at the right time. I stand by that Chase had a FANTASTIC season last year but if you want a format that favors winning this is not it. Logano had the definition of a "mid" season and wins a title. This format is all about engineering drama on paper that ends up lackluster at best at Phoenix.
 
virtualbalboa said:
Because he races for money and he's being paid to race full time in Cup. If someone came to him for a deal for the same money and half the races, he'd probably do it. That deal doesn't exist.
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So you don't think Mr H. would allow it? I think he would if Kyle wanted to do it and he had another driver willing to run the races Kyle did not.
 
virtualbalboa said:
The 76ers have the exclusive rights to Joel Embiid's competitive basketball play. If Joel Embiid plays in France instead of the NBA, it is because the NBA and 76ers wanted that to happen, which means they collectively see more value in him playing that game than they do suiting up for the 76ers.

It isn't like I don't understand what the rub in that statement is for NASCAR fans. But I, not identifying as "NASCAR fan" but rather "racing fan", don't have negative feelings about that. The Coke 600 is never going to matter more to me than the Indy 500, and the NASCAR Playoff Championship absolutely, positively, cannot hold a candle to how I perceive the Indy 500, especially now that the split has been over longer than it happened. If Kyle Larson did win 20 races but lost to Joey Logano at the 2025 Phoenix Finale, it would change absolutely nothing for me in terms of how I would perceive who the better driver is or whether or not Larson did more things that I valued.
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You are not wrong about the 76ers...all I am saying is the NBA has to at least appear to be doing something about it like NASCAR is. When I make these statements I am coming from NASCAR's POV and not that of caring more about the Indy 500 because I have really lost interest in that over the past few years. To each their own though. Glad you are still enjoying it and it's important.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
You're more confident about playoff changes coming from this 'industry-wide committee' than I am.

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With some smoke already showing, I believe some element of change will come to the format next season. Those not wanting a one race winner take all will likely be disappointed, as I seriously doubt NASCAR will give that “drama” up. I continue to promote my idea to heavily reward the “regular season champion” by giving that driver an automatic entry in the championship race. Huge advantage to a team that won on points. Let the others grind it out to determine the other 3 finalists via the Chase format. Probably needs a few other tweaks, but that one change elevates winning on points, making the regular season championship a major prize.
 
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