California Speedway Demo / Rebuild

Charlie Spencer said:
It may or may not be. Either way, 'most important thing' isn't the same as 'only thing'.
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You can't have any chance of keeping the draft regardless of your talent if the car simply isn't fast enough either due to a lack of HP. Over the last 30 years we've seen all manner of body damage proven irrelevant as long as you can keep up with the accelerating pack and stay close behind someone. But no one on 7 cylinders ever kept up.
 
Naitch said:
You could and you would learn something in the process. You would gradually get better at driving a race car at a base level.

But you haven’t taken that initial step so I think you’re a long ways off from turning a hot lap at Daytona.
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The initial step - the ONLY step - is just spending money. I could be in the Chili Bowl today that I'm at if I were willing to pay for a ride. I wouldn't have even needed to bring gear. I could buy it when here. Sorry, but knowing this doesn't make me think race car drivers are special. Someone who plays golf with any frequency is better than me, but at the same time, if you told me a guy who'd only ever played Par 3s made a PGA leaderboard I'd have a lot of questions.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
No, you've been assured it's impossible to RACE in a pack at these speeds without talent, not DRIVE around in practice as a single car with no one around you.

If you don't have the needed talent and skill to run in the draft, you're either going to wreck or fall out of the draft. If you fall out, it doesn't matter what kinds or types of skill or talent you have; your only option is to hope for a Lucky Dawg.
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Or a caution
 
virtualbalboa said:
You can't have any chance of keeping the draft regardless of your talent if the car simply isn't fast enough either due to a lack of HP. Over the last 30 years we've seen all manner of body damage proven irrelevant as long as you can keep up with the accelerating pack and stay close behind someone. But no one on 7 cylinders ever kept up.
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If you're having mechanical issues, you're not going to keep up in any form of racing - pack, short track, road course, drag strip, lawn mower figure 8s, etc. I'm not sure what your point is in relation to skills needed for plate racing.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
If you're having mechanical issues, you're not going to keep up in any form of racing - pack, short track, road course, drag strip, lawn mower figure 8s, etc. I'm not sure what your point is.
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You can drop lower gears or switch batteries or any number of technical gremlins and be fine, especially with a caution. Down on HP? Never.
 
Revman said:
Sometimes we struggle with opinions becoming perceived statements of fact.
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So the most popular race that Nascar has is used in a comparison to Fontana? Yeah it's a fact alright, a useless one. Forgot to include the fact of revenue and a 500 million remodel. . Lol
Let's do realistic facts. Like Chicago to California. Chicago isn't costing an arm and a leg to keep, they have sold off property around it, but the structure can remain because it isn't getting gobbled up by urban sprawl.
 
StandOnIt said:
So the most popular race that Nascar has is used in a comparison to Fontana? Yeah it's a fact alright, a useless one. Forgot to include the fact of revenue and a 500 million remodel. . Lol
Let's do realistic facts. Like Chicago to California. Chicago isn't costing an arm and a leg to keep, they have sold off property around it, but the structure can remain because it isn't getting gobbled up by urban sprawl.
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Took a lap around Chicagoland Speedway yesterday morning, that is to say, on the access roads that surround the track.

From the outside, the place doesn't look any different than it did five years ago, the last time a Cup race was held there.

If any of the Speedway property used for parking has been sold they haven't built anything on it yet, although some large distribution type buildings have gone up immediately north of the Speedway.
 
Some people here don't want to accept the grim reality of urban sprawl. In California, L.A. area especially it is acute. Not even a huge racing structure that works almost everywhere else in the country over the objections of pressure groups can't survive.
 
pjmolo said:
Took a lap around Chicagoland Speedway yesterday morning, that is to say, on the access roads that surround the track.

From the outside, the place doesn't look any different than it did five years ago, the last time a Cup race was held there.

If any of the Speedway property used for parking has been sold they haven't built anything on it yet, although some large distribution type buildings have gone up immediately north of the Speedway.
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SuperCross had playoffs there I think just last season? I didnt get to go but did watch on TV and the place still looked like it could host a Cup race if need be. I still think thats going to be the play once the street race moves markets, no inside info just a gut feeling.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
SuperCross had playoffs there I think just last season? I didn't get to go but did watch on TV and the place still looked like it could host a Cup race if need be. I still think that's going to be the play once the street race moves markets, no inside info just a gut feeling.
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By all accounts, the first two Chicago Street races have successful in the eyes of both NASCAR and the City of Chicago.

I believe that the contract between NASCAR and the city expires after this year's race.

If the city's current administration can't get a deal that justifies a renewal of the street race contract, it'll be interesting to see if NASCAR comes to the realization that the area will support a return to Chicagoland Speedway.
 
I hope they make the Chicago street race a tradition myself. It's a great track, highly technical. Good access to the track by various transportation systems public and private. All kinds of entertainment going on. It's a party that a race broke out. Sounds like they have killer food all around there. Good money for the local economy.
 
StandOnIt said:
I hope they make the Chicago street race a tradition myself. It's a great track, highly technical. Good access to the track by various transportation systems public and private. All kinds of entertainment going on. It's a party that a race broke out. Sounds like they have killer food all around there. Good money for the local economy.
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I’m going to go this year and bring my 3 year old son. I can’t wait
 
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