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Johnson really showed some gritty resolve and gave it everything they had, but he just came up a little short. I don't think it was meant to be anyways. Even though HMS had a clear HP advantage throughout the year, the 48 team was never really able to get the handling dialed in (outside of a 2...

Didn't something like this almost happen earlier in the year? A bunch of drivers waited too long to put down a lap and almost got caught. I just can't for the life of me understand how we get to race # 32, and these guys running multimillion dollar race programs are making blunders like that...

Just like every other race right? Except why is it that the elite drivers and teams always seem to win? This notion that any scrub can win a plate race, is along the same lines as road course ringers do better than the regulars. They still need a ton of luck and everything to line up perfectly...

I'll write them off after the checkered flag. All it takes is somebody to throw a block at the front and poof, half the field is gone. Plus, Jimmie can win at plate races, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him pull it off.

The moment you write off JJ and Chad is the moment you've forgotten just what they are capable of. Those are 2 guys I'll never discount until they've retired from the sport.

I come here to have fun, healthy discussions about the sport I love. It's too bad others on here resort to trolling and pointless personal attacks. Cheers! :cheers:

Absolutely, and I'm not hating on him for how he drives. I appreciate his competitiveness and hard nose driving. I'm just pointing out that often he has blocked cars because of his unwillingness to move over, which is his right. If no one is willing to move him out of the way, then so be it...

Jimmie has accused him of blocking on multiple occasions. Your points are fair enough though Pudge, and I'm not bashing him. He's carved out a reputation for himself as a hard racer, and that's certainly an admirable one to have. My point is that when you're a slower car, even by just...

We disagree in what a block is then. I'm not saying he jumps lanes to get in front of guys, but on a week to week basis there isint a driver out there that makes it harder to pass than Newman does. When you are slower than the guy behind you and you're both running the same lane, then you're...

Kettle meet pot. Funny thing is Newman who was in Tony's organization for a number of years, might have been the worst blocker in the entire field, never heard a peep about him from Tony. Tony cried about Vickers, Logano, Stenhouse blocking him but he threw a block on Waltrip that took out half...

Let's talk about the real issue here folks. 2 out of the 3 JGR drivers were involved in this melee and Kyle Busch was nowhere to be found. What kind of bizzaro world are we in???

Yeah true, I suppose Kenseth's reputation may have gotten him a pass on that one. Hamlin was stirring it up though, and I think he should have gotten a fine at least.

So if Ambrose and Mears got fined for fighting at Richmond, why didn't Kenseth get fined? Hamlin getting nothing is a huge joke as well. IMO the 4 of them should have been fined, with Kez getting the largest one. Put them all on probation and call it a day.

Wow, red handed. I'm not understanding how this is deemed legal. Would this pass inspection before the race? If not, why then why would it pass afterwards. If it is legal then why don't the teams just flare it out before the race even starts? Is this like the spoiler angle maybe? If that angle...

Hornish or Ragan would be a safe choice, might get them a couple top 10's here and there but I'd seriously doubt they'd contend for wins or the Chase. They're know commodities at this point, you know what you're getting with those drivers, steady but certainly not consistent race winners...

It's not the first time Jeff has taken a personal shot at Jamie Mac either. I believe it was Talladega a couple years ago and Jeff was on the radio saying "I don't know why everyone thinks he's such a great plate racer, he's screwing the line up all day" or something to that effect.

Interesting, is he still recovering from that hit he took, or is this performance related?

It's all love from up here, and we have plenty of oil and natural resources we'd be happy to sell you guys in the coming centuries. Any of you guys ever have real maple syrup? That table syrup stuff is terrible, don't know what you're missing! There is no way in holy hell that we're taking...

I'll say this, if Hornaday is able to find another ride and keep racing with Rheem that's awesome. Rheem's loyalty to him is commendable, as we've seen in the past companies don't always have that loyalty. Napa left Truex jr high and dry because of the shenanigans at MWR, so it's nice to see...

Yeah that's sounds pretty damning to me. Especially if a big time player like Rheem is saying it, that won't bode well for TSM. Given how fast word travels throughout the garage area, it's going to be very tough for them to attract new sponsors when you got Rheem saying that kind of stuff.