18 team penalized for loose wheel

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MRN's story was the jackman didn't look to his right before he dropped the car.
 
I don't get how the 22 can drag a jack all the way around Talladega and win the race while an unintentional accident for the 18 gets half his team suspended for 4 weeks.

Don't get me started. JLo is is on track with dragging a projectile around while actively trying to dislodge it and that ain't nothin but a lil thang. Kyle's team makes a rare miscue during a pit stop and the world is ending. Nascar has no integrity but we already knew that.
 
I don't get how the 22 can drag a jack all the way around Talladega and win the race while an unintentional accident for the 18 gets half his team suspended for 4 weeks.
Don't get me started. JLo is is on track with dragging a projectile around while actively trying to dislodge it and that ain't nothin but a lil thang. Kyle's team makes a rare miscue during a pit stop and the world is ending. Nascar has no integrity but we already knew that.

serving a penalty or a fine for either car has nothing to do with winning the race .
 
serving a penalty or a fine for either car has nothing to do with winning the race .

Who won the race means nothing to me. The 22 team gets nothing for driving around trying to dislodge a jack that could have ruined a driver's day or injured a driver or fan. Kyle Busch has a miscue and presents no danger to the field or the fans and the CC gets the boot for 4 races. It is no wonder the series continues to lose fans.
 
Don't get me started. JLo is is on track with dragging a projectile around while actively trying to dislodge it and that ain't nothin but a lil thang. Kyle's team makes a rare miscue during a pit stop and the world is ending. Nascar has no integrity but we already knew that.
Maybe Kyle's mic drop and walk-off didn't set well with the penalty po-po.
 
Who won the race means nothing to me. The 22 team gets nothing for driving around trying to dislodge a jack that could have ruined a driver's day or injured a driver or fan. Kyle Busch has a miscue and presents no danger to the field or the fans and the CC gets the boot for 4 races. It is no wonder the series continues to lose fans.
yep. this.
It is no wonder the series continues to lose fans.
 
NASCAR should realy look more into the incident than just going by the book. Jackman was at fault and gets no punishment. Actually dont mind the CC suspension all that much as I think hes made some questionable calls this year.
 
NASCAR should realy look more into the incident than just going by the book. Jackman was at fault and gets no punishment. Actually dont mind the CC suspension all that much as I think hes made some questionable calls this year.
The penalty was invented for something else..and it was, it was over the loose lug nut thing in which the jackman wouldn't be involved. That is why it doesn't make sense..and there is nobody around with half a brain or wheelbase that could make a decision differently.
 
That is why it doesn't make sense..and there is nobody around with half a brain or wheelbase that could make a decision differently.

And, there we have it from a true authority on half wheelbases.
 
This is an insane rule.

I know safety and all but if they were ever thinking about safety they would have never let these guys self police with the nuts rule.

Now you're punishing them for something you let happen in the first place? Pathetic
 
How many races were JLo's crew chief and jack man suspended?
Show me the rule that says they should have?

What happened in both cases this weekend was an accident, but it's a rule. If you let this slide what's to stop a team from putting on a few lug nuts only to "accidentally drop the jack"?
 
This is an insane rule.

I know safety and all but if they were ever thinking about safety they would have never let these guys self police with the nuts rule.

Now you're punishing them for something you let happen in the first place? Pathetic

Yep, JLo gets to drive around at 150 deliberately trying to dislodge a projectile and that is completely cool.
 
And, there we have it from a true authority on half wheelbases.
that is where the rule came from..got a problem with it? got talk to Nascar
This is an insane rule.

I know safety and all but if they were ever thinking about safety they would have never let these guys self police with the nuts rule.

Now you're punishing them for something you let happen in the first place? Pathetic
This rule was a knee jerk reaction for the lug nut rule and they used it for the two loose wheels they had last weekend. It doesn't fit what happened for sure
 
Show me the rule that says they should have?

What happened in both cases this weekend was an accident, but it's a rule. If you let this slide what's to stop a team from putting on a few lug nuts only to "accidentally drop the jack"?

That is the problem. There is no rule that says a car can't drag a jack around at 150 mph but if you inadvertently screw up your own pit stop by not putting on any lug nuts it is a very bad thing. It makes no sense whatsoever.
 
In the past NASCAR might look at the incident and rule on the loose wheel and leave the crewman out of it. But they've had to further define the rules due to consistency criticism from a variety of sources (including us) which takes judgement out of the picture. It hope one rule will be re-evaluated.
 
There are the rules and then there is such a thing as the spirit of the rules. Does anybody believe that the 18 team was trying to gain an advantage by leaving pit road sans lug nuts on the left rear?
 
In the past NASCAR might look at the incident and rule on the loose wheel and leave the crewman out of it. But they've had to further define the rules due to consistency criticism from a variety of sources (including us) which takes judgement out of the picture. It hope one rule will be re-evaluated.

Yep just with the small sampling on here we have the same poster calling for integrity (which enforcing the rule is) and recently saying Busch's team didn't do it on purpose. Yeah for sure, doesn't matter how Nascar calls it.
 
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