2019 IndyCar Miscellaneous

Discussion in 'Open Wheel Racing' started by Charlie Spencer, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Good to see they've cleaned this up nicely.

    Harding Steinbrenner big boost for rest of IndyCar season
    https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/harding-steinbrenner-big-boost-rest-indycar-season-63571029

    It's unfortunate that it seems like it has to be one or the other with Pocono and Richmond. Both are markets otherwise untapped by IndyCar, and the general oval count could also use a boost. I don't get the feeling at all that Miles seems to get that IndyCar has fulfilled the domestic potential.

    IndyCar CEO Miles confirms discussions with Richmond, negotiations with Pocono
    https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/motor/2019/06/06/indycar-talking-richmond-negotiating-pocono/1368824001/
     
  2. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I know the core of IndyCar is the 500 and the road courses anymore, but having just one of Pocono and Richmond is disappointing.

    I liked it best when they had a triple crown for ovals. Have it at Indy/Pocono/Texas (not a SS but whatever).
     
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  3. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Agreed. I don't want to see this become Champ Car. I wish the Texas race were a little longer, I know 500 miles probably isn't possible with the G-forces.
     
  4. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Go back to Motegi or Rockingham again if they need international races, is Brands Hatch oval raceable?
     
  5. donthaveanickname

    donthaveanickname Team Owner

    Rockingham has closed, unfortunately.
    And there is no oval at Brands Hatch.
     
  6. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Wrong Rockingham, I suspect.
     
  7. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    The oval that the Euro Series runs, Raceway Venray in the Netherlands. Its 1/2 mile though probably not a good fit.
     
  8. donthaveanickname

    donthaveanickname Team Owner

    No, the Rockingham racetrack in the UK closed as well at the end of last year.
    It'd be impossible to race formula cars there.
    And the track has no pit road, that's why the Euro Series race is only 50 miles.
     
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  9. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I’m sorry to hear that.
     
  10. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

  11. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I have a hard time following the flow of Twitter conversations. Did the President just mistake IndyCar for NASCAR?
     
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  12. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

  13. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Did he also turn celebrating someone else’s achievement into being about him?
     
  14. Doc Austin

    Doc Austin Team Extreme Flight

    Good to see there's no limit to how petty people can be when ragging on the president, but we already knew that.
     
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  15. rd45usa

    rd45usa Team Owner

  16. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I'm asking questions. Feel free to answer them.
     
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  17. donthaveanickname

    donthaveanickname Team Owner

    Would be cool if they let him do a test drive in an IndyCar or a NASCAR car:)
     
  18. Doc Austin

    Doc Austin Team Extreme Flight

    Ask a legitimate question instead of one based off a false narrative. How hard is that?

    No. Trump mentioned Penske just won Daytona, and then started talking about Nascar.
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2019
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  19. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Okay, that answers my first question.
     
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  20. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    BRUUUUHHHHH:


    NEWEY STILL HAS THE SETUP NOTES!

    Come home, Adrian. Come back to the light.
     
  21. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

  22. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    That's disappointing. I work in a town of 6000. The annual three-day Poultry Festival has drawn 80K plus for the last decade regardless of weather, and 95K isn't unusual.
     
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  23. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Outside of F1 and I suspect MotoGP, 95K over three days seems good enough for a racing event of any kind anymore, with several notable exceptions. Good enough for Penske and GM to keep putting it on, at least.
     
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  24. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

  25. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Once again.

    **** BMW.
     
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  26. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    BMW's motorsport program is famously a mess but they have a point that it's easier to find a "story" to market elsewhere. The technology angle is easier to exploit elsewhere as the engine formula isn't exactly road-relevant, and in IMSA they can actually market the M series in the biggest market they're in. There are a few points in IndyCar's favor that could justify a manufacturer starting a new program there but without a real link to street cars it'll be hard to get approval for one.
     
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  27. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    While I agree completely, what makes IndyCar entry less attractive than F1? Gods know it has little in common with street cars either. Is it just a question of prestige?
     
  28. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Racing now in days have to involve concepts that can be applied to road vehicles. In order for a manufacturer to make more money, such as hybrid technology to apply to everyday cars to bring the concept of "Track to street" technology comes full-circle. If it cannot make money average consumer, more than likely manufacturers are going to see it as a waste of money and resources.

    It sucks, but it has to happen at this point.
     
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  29. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I understand but the same points apply to F1, yet they draw more than two manufacturers.
     
  30. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    F1, as international as it is, first offers substantially more exposure, even without considering any degree of road relevance. With its hybrid tech included F1 shares a stronger link towards what manufacturers are doing and want to do with what they're selling. The upcoming Mercedes-AMG One hypercar, for instance, carries a lot of technology over from the Mercedes F1 program. F1 has problems of its own with not necessarily being economically viable (there's a proposed budget cap incoming in a few years) but at least they can justify to their boards that it's not just a racing project. IndyCar finalized the new engine regulations without any degree of change in technology, just a displacement increase, but it sounds like they're revisiting them to some extent to see what can be added or altered to get another manufacturer's approval, even if means pushing back the change to 2022.

    Obviously as Marquardt said it's a lot easier to go racing in IMSA as many of the GT cars have race and street variants built parallel to each other, and all of the cars, prototypes included, utilize production-based engines. So you can market particular engines and product lines (like the M series) that you can actually go see at the dealership.
     
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  31. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Co-owner says Meyer Shank Racing 'in a good place' to expand to full-time program in 2020
    https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...g-expanding-full-slate-2020-50-50/1478313001/

    Besides some future F1 guys who used it as a winter tuneup (Lance Stroll, Lando Norris) some notable local graduates include Brendon Hartley, Shane van Gisbergen, Earl Bamber.

    Road to Indy partners with Toyota GAZOO Racing New Zealand on driver development program
    https://racer.com/2019/06/21/road-to-indy-partners-with-toyota-gazoo-racing-new-zealand-on-driver-development-program/
     

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