Doc Austin
Back From The Dead
Grosjean has ruined so many people's races so many times that most drivers are past giving him any benefit of the doubt.
2023 Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix
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FLRacingFan
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Grosjean had a suspension failure, which is why his car **** straight into the outside wall and the team radio suggested there was nothing he could do. I thought he clipped the inside wall and ricocheted off but that wasn’t the case.
racingfan7
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Really good racing for a track I bashed for moving away from Belle Isle.
MRM
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Very entertaining race. I caught most of it once they kept having delays in the Cup race. This race was better than that one.
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My takes from the race…
- Best American racing broadcast team at the moment, even down to the pit road reporters
- This track isn’t horrible layout wise, but the bumps have to be smoothed into these tight corners
- Firestone makes a legitimately better tire than Goodyear. Why NASCAR hasn’t switched to two compounds confuses me
- It’s insane how racy these cars actually are. The downforce levels are perfect for them, really allows them to be nimble and responsive for tough moves
- Palou is really establishing himself. That dude is really fast, especially to open the race he dusted the field
- Pato is a lot like #42 Kyle Larson. Dude will dominate a race and then somehow eff it up
- Best American racing broadcast team at the moment, even down to the pit road reporters
- This track isn’t horrible layout wise, but the bumps have to be smoothed into these tight corners
- Firestone makes a legitimately better tire than Goodyear. Why NASCAR hasn’t switched to two compounds confuses me
- It’s insane how racy these cars actually are. The downforce levels are perfect for them, really allows them to be nimble and responsive for tough moves
- Palou is really establishing himself. That dude is really fast, especially to open the race he dusted the field
- Pato is a lot like #42 Kyle Larson. Dude will dominate a race and then somehow eff it up
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
$$$$$
Doc Austin
Back From The Dead
Thanks to rd45usa for the in car video. Seeing that, the track looked like it was probably fun to drive.
Doc Austin
Back From The Dead
I finally got to see the whole race instead of snippets, and thusly, issue a minor correction:
I went into the race with a negative attitude. Brand new street races have a long history of being boobytrapped, and after qualifying it looked like that was going to repeat itself. In spite of it being too narrow and too short and way too bumpy, we ended up with a hell of a race and a ton of harmless hip checks.
But, so there's no confusion, I ashamedly admit I enjoyed it.
I also watched the video from Mcglaughlin's car over and over, and it looked like it would be a fun track to drive. The last section featured an uphill right/left flick that crested right between the two turns and then fell away, and that had to be a really hard turn to get right. The rest was typical 90 degree street racing turns, but it looked like it had a nice flow. The layout would be great if it were smooth and a bit wider.
But that's where it breaks down. It was so tight that the drivers really didn't have much room to actually race. Almost every time two cars went into a corner together there was contact. Even Felix and Rossi, the two guys with the least to gain by running into each other hit a time or two. Yeah, big fun to watch, but probably not that much fun to be doing.
My big objection is the plane looks like an utter dump compared to places like St. Petersburg. The roads were rough, cracked and bumpy and the whole place looked run down. This might not seem like a viable complaint, but wouldn't you rather see them race in glamorous places? Indycar comes up lame all the time trying to capture the "allure" of Monoco, and then they race in places like this. Toronto is a dump. Long Beach is sort of dumpy. Nashville definitely has no glamor. Look back on most all of the cart/Indycar street races and they were all in dumps.
Roger has said he plans to fix the place up, but what a hell of a job that would be. They would have to make it longer and shave the bumps, if not even a total repave, but I don't know what could be done to make it wider. Since they can't do that, we're just going to have to accept we will get some pretty sloppy racing with lots of wheel banging. Then again, most street races are like that anyway.
We got a lot better race than I thought most of us were expecting, but it felt more like slumming considering how run down the place looks.
I went into the race with a negative attitude. Brand new street races have a long history of being boobytrapped, and after qualifying it looked like that was going to repeat itself. In spite of it being too narrow and too short and way too bumpy, we ended up with a hell of a race and a ton of harmless hip checks.
But, so there's no confusion, I ashamedly admit I enjoyed it.
I also watched the video from Mcglaughlin's car over and over, and it looked like it would be a fun track to drive. The last section featured an uphill right/left flick that crested right between the two turns and then fell away, and that had to be a really hard turn to get right. The rest was typical 90 degree street racing turns, but it looked like it had a nice flow. The layout would be great if it were smooth and a bit wider.
But that's where it breaks down. It was so tight that the drivers really didn't have much room to actually race. Almost every time two cars went into a corner together there was contact. Even Felix and Rossi, the two guys with the least to gain by running into each other hit a time or two. Yeah, big fun to watch, but probably not that much fun to be doing.
My big objection is the plane looks like an utter dump compared to places like St. Petersburg. The roads were rough, cracked and bumpy and the whole place looked run down. This might not seem like a viable complaint, but wouldn't you rather see them race in glamorous places? Indycar comes up lame all the time trying to capture the "allure" of Monoco, and then they race in places like this. Toronto is a dump. Long Beach is sort of dumpy. Nashville definitely has no glamor. Look back on most all of the cart/Indycar street races and they were all in dumps.
Roger has said he plans to fix the place up, but what a hell of a job that would be. They would have to make it longer and shave the bumps, if not even a total repave, but I don't know what could be done to make it wider. Since they can't do that, we're just going to have to accept we will get some pretty sloppy racing with lots of wheel banging. Then again, most street races are like that anyway.
We got a lot better race than I thought most of us were expecting, but it felt more like slumming considering how run down the place looks.