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There's plenty of other races series to be successful in. Indy cars, IMSA, NHRA, sprint cars.....
23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement
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Overall, the sad part here is that I believe nascar loses another 15% viewership next year, whether they win or lose this trial.
Also, no chance 23xi survives more than a year or two. Denny will be retired after next year as well.
If nascar is deemed a monopoly, which we all know it is, I think other series will pop up on TV and start eating into viewership as well.
Sad era in nascar history.
Also, no chance 23xi survives more than a year or two. Denny will be retired after next year as well.
If nascar is deemed a monopoly, which we all know it is, I think other series will pop up on TV and start eating into viewership as well.
Sad era in nascar history.
Have any jurors thrown chicken bones yet?
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But those aren't stock car racing series. Those are all very different and as we have seen time and again, cross over drivers don't do particularly well so why would full teams have any better luck crossing over?
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Everything I've gathered from Dennys testimony is that he promised MJ and Polk a larger return and hes on the hook for 35 mil worth of loans himself so needs nascar to toss him some more money or his butt is in the ringer.
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So now nascar is responsible for them being successful in another form of racing?
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No, maybe I misinterpreted your post, but it sounded like you were saying that any team could move from nascar into imsa nhra f1 indy car and have similar business results. That's just not true, the series are all different. Require different engineers, crew chiefs, etc, basically the whole staff. All the tooling and mfg would be different too.
You are a bit behind the curve. Nascar has already been deemed a monopoly. It is not illegal to be a monopoly. If 23XI can prove they restricted other stock car series illegally to compete they might win their case.. Anybodies guess what the outcome can be if they win. Anything from selling tracks, losing charters, damages, or just a fine. Pretty sure they won't be in Nascar long whatever happens unless they settle with Nascar before the verdict is my guess.
On the other hand if Nascar can prove this all came about because of a contract dispute, 23XI didn't get what they wanted so they came up with this Sherman act violation after the fact, Nascar could possibly win it's case.
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I don't think anyone wins this case. Just one side doesn’t lose as much
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Yeah, I'm not cheering for one side or the other. Im just hoping stock car racing can get better and grow!
For sure. No telling what Bell would come up with and the chances for appeal whatever happens is a given IMO.
Childress is testifying for 23XI, that should be interesting lol. They say one team that is all in on the charters has been losing money for years. My guess it is Penske or Hendrick. They need tax breaks lol.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The current TV deal is losing the big channels Fox and NBC in favor of streaming channels and the lower numbers are hurting the viewing and the sponsors.