45th Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach

Discussion in 'Open Wheel Racing' started by FLRacingFan, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Laughs in Helio.
     
  2. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    That should be taken from Graham. Lol dude tried to run Dixon into the wall right there
     
  3. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I guarantee you a Carlin or Coyne car wouldn't get that call. Ganassi do this all the time.
     
  4. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Why watch this series if they're gonna penalize hard racing? God this series is just as frustrating as NASCAR
     
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  5. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Does that trophy girl have a muffin top???
     
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  6. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I doubt the Angels move to Long Beach.
     
  7. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I think Graham is 100% correct and is a very reasonable dude. You're allowed one move correct? It would take a second swerve to make that a blocking penalty.
     
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  8. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Shoutout to that 2015 title Scott Dixon won on a tiebreak against Montoya because Saga Karam mysteriously beached the car at Mid-Ohio after Dixon had pitted and Montoya was in the DANGER ZONE.

    Bunch of freaking frauds.
     
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  9. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    This is why no one watches IndyCar.
     
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  10. I'm still pissed about 2015. Dixon had no business winning the championship that year
     
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  11. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Y'all act like there are no judgment calls in other sports. Tell Saints fans about today; THEY have something to complain about.
     
  12. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    How does anyone disagree with that? Dude was loose as hell out of the turn, does a suicide dive then inside and makes contact with Dixon which automatically shuts off his Push to Pass
     
  13. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    We're talking racing. Leave your 'sports' talk to the NASCAR forum. ;)
     
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  14. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    His move was anticipatory, not reactionary. Dixon drove into his RR.
     
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  15. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    lol please
     
  16. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Dixon wasn't 'there' and hadn't established any kind of position alongside Rahal. He has no right to expect an unobstructed path to drive around him from behind.

    It's called a minor racing incident. To use the sports analogy, this wasn't a pass interference or charging / blocking type of scenario. It's what is referred to as incidental contact.
     
  17. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    skoal is that you? :D:p
     
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  18. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    The block looked pretty dramatic from the camera angle. That goosed the monkeys in the trailer to push the buzzer. Hell, Truex did that for 25 laps last night so what.
     
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  19. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Rahal was calm, contained, and correct. Change the rule then, you're not allowed to defend Scott Dixon at all.
     
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  20. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

  21. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    There shouldn't be a race control. They can shout and push each other around after the race, go have a beer and go to the next race. If it gets out of hand, call them in for a talk. KISS
     
  22. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Back-to-back dominant years at Long Beach. Rossi is on track to own this place about as much as Little Al did.

     
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  23. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    If that call got Bell and Tracy to agree with each other...:eek:
     
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  24. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I know it's Sunday, but has the local district attorney's office commented on whether assault or endangerment charges will be filed against Rahal for that atrocity?
     
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  25. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    The racing so in so's continually take the PC wuss route with racing. Let them all block like mo fo's. The fans will cheer or cuss the blocker depending on what driver they are a fan of. It's just that simple. I cussed Truex all night long last night, but I was paying attention and was wanting the bumper.
     
  26. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Yeah but we’re talking about a race car with 3000 lbs and a massive steel body with bumpers. Today’s race was with turbocharged go carts that have upside down airplane wings for added downforce.

    I have no problem with blocking into a corner. But swerving at the beginning of a straightaway isn’t good
     
  27. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    You've explained your perspective better here and I grant that it is valid. I still disagree and think this doesn't constitute a penalty either by the rules as written or in overall racing spirit.

    For another intelligent opposing perspective, this guy is a very knowledgeable racer and writer. His take is essentially that Rahal's first 'move' was to block the inside of the corner, and then his second 'move' was the swerve back in front of Dixon on exit. I think that's a stretch, and that Dixon has established no right to the prime racing line from behind just because he's faster. If Rahal had swerved left then right again in quick succession, that is what blocking rules should prevent.



     
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  28. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    There’s a place for blocking rules in open wheel racing, considering the much greater consequences involved. But the overwhelming interpretation around the world is that one move is allowed and reactionary moves are frowned upon. I think either camera angle looking directly down the backstretch shows Graham started moving right slightly before Dixon ever chose a direction. A lot of the problem is that the rule is also applied inconsistently and Ganassi tend to benefit from these calls more than any other team.
     
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  29. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I feel strongly both ways.
     
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  30. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    I will hit the DVR at 4am.
     
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  31. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Got to give it to Gordon, Nascar and Gordon had their problems so what does he do, creates his own racing series and at 50 still racing, still winning

     
  32. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Team Owner

    The Longbeach Workout
     
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  33. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Dixon is such a whiner.

     

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