Article on JJ

Blaze88 said:
I didn't care to read it all but from what I read it made no sense, it starts off pretty much saying Johnson is hated cause he wins, but then goes on to metion Dale who has more Championships then Johnson(also more wins) but says he was the most popular driver, so how can that be?

My problem with Johnson isn't he always wins it's just not someone I'm a fan of honestly, hell I wish Jr could have seasons like Johnson does and I'd still be a fan of his.
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There were lots of people that couldn't stand Earnhardt sr. before his death.

I agree in part with the article. Take any well liked driver and let him have a few double digit win seasons and see what happens. Jeff Gordon went from being very well liked in 93 and 94, to the most hated driver in the sport from 95-2000 and beyond. He didn't win that much from 99 to 2000+ but the hate carried over.

nascar fans do not like it when a driver wins too much, unless of course it's their own favorite driver that's doing the winning.
 
Kyle18fan said:
Was Chad on the phone or did they hide him in the hauler
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Dude, you're kinda short changing Johnson here. I mean yea, Chad and Johnson are an unbelievable dynamic duo, but Johnson is still an amazing elite stock car driver and to say that he owes all of his success to Chad kinda denies the skill and talent that he has when it comes to racing and driving.
 
SpeedPagan said:
Dude, you're kinda short changing Johnson here. I mean yea, Chad and Johnson are an unbelievable dynamic duo, but Johnson is still an amazing elite stock car driver and to say that he owes all of his success to Chad kinda denies the skill and talent that he has when it comes to racing and driving.
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He may be good but not great IMO It takes good cars to win and he seems to have them more often then not. There are better drivers in the cup series that dont have a championship at all. Kyle Busch is one of them.

If Mr Busch had a crew chief that was as good as Chad I am betting things would be much different. It is possible that I am heavily biased on this subject though. :cheers:
 
Kyle18fan said:
He may be good but not great IMO It takes good cars to win and he seems to have them more often then not. There are better drivers in the cup series that dont have a championship at all. Kyle Busch is one of them.

If Mr Busch had a crew chief that was as good as Chad I am betting things would be much different. It is possible that I am heavily biased on this subject though. :cheers:
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I'd trade ya Gustafson for Dave right now.

Kyle misuses his CC's intelect. Even belittles him at times.

Same thing happened with Addington. Kyle drove him off for no good reason and look how Addington is doing now.

Like they say, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
 
Kyle18fan said:
He may be good but not great IMO It takes good cars to win and he seems to have them more often then not. There are better drivers in the cup series that dont have a championship at all. Kyle Busch is one of them.

If Mr Busch had a crew chief that was as good as Chad I am betting things would be much different. It is possible that I am heavily biased on this subject though. :cheers:
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I doubt Busch can drive a loose car like Jimmie can. Jimmie prefers for his cars to be loose, that's why he's so fast.
 
IMO Kyle is the third best active driver to never win a championship. I think y'alls really under estimate his skills.
 
reck said:
I'd trade ya Gustafson for Dave right now.

Kyle misuses his CC's intelect. Even belittles him at times.

Same thing happened with Addington. Kyle drove him off for no good reason and look how Addington is doing now.

Like they say, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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I am fairly certain that Kyle might be a bit hard on crew chiefs. Brilliant drivers have always been a little tough to please :p
 
SpeedPagan said:
I doubt Busch can drive a loose car like Jimmie can. Jimmie prefers for his cars to be loose, that's why he's so fast.
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I think you've missed a lot of KyBu's races. He seems to be fast 90% of the time & he's sideways 95% of the time.

60% of the time, it works every time.
 
Kyle18fan said:
If Mr Busch had a crew chief that was as good as Chad I am betting things would be much different. :cheers:
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I doubt it.
One thing that JJ has that Kyle and his brother don't have is emotional discipline. There have been lots of times Kyle threw away a good finish because he let his emotions get the better of him... he was mad.

JJ has the ability to remain focused on the task at hand and race smart whether he's mad or not.

Kyle and his brother are what they are. They're never going to change. When things are going good for them it's because they have 'matured'. When things don't go their way the true colors start showing.

Kyle could still be a champion driver in the Cup series even with his emotional issues: see Tony Stewart.
But he'll never be the driver JJ is because of his temperament.
 
gordonite said:
I doubt it.
One thing that JJ has that Kyle and his brother don't have is emotional discipline. There have been lots of times Kyle threw away a good finish because he let his emotions get the better of him... he was mad.

JJ has the ability to remain focused on the task at hand and race smart whether he's mad or not.

Kyle and his brother are what they are. They're never going to change. When things are going good for them it's because they have 'matured'. When things don't go their way the true colors start showing.

Kyle could still be a champion driver in the Cup series even with his emotional issues: see Tony Stewart.
But he'll never be the driver JJ is because of his temperament.
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Yup... you need to have speed, confidence, and patience... not just 1 of the 3 lol
 
gordonite said:
I doubt it.
One thing that JJ has that Kyle and his brother don't have is emotional discipline. There have been lots of times Kyle threw away a good finish because he let his emotions get the better of him... he was mad.

JJ has the ability to remain focused on the task at hand and race smart whether he's mad or not.

Kyle and his brother are what they are. They're never going to change. When things are going good for them it's because they have 'matured'. When things don't go their way the true colors start showing.

Kyle could still be a champion driver in the Cup series even with his emotional issues: see Tony Stewart.
But he'll never be the driver JJ is because of his temperament.
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The thing about JJ is that he's the most focused driver on the track. He's not worried about Nationwide, trucks or some dirt race that weekend. He just puts all his effort into Cup and it clearly pays off.
 
Stewart Fan said:
The thing about JJ is that he's the most focused driver on the track. He's not worried about Nationwide, trucks or some dirt race that weekend. He just puts all his effort into Cup and it clearly pays off.
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That's truebut I dont think that's quite why he's so excellent and precise.

Outside of LOWES duties, meetings and so on what else is he doing? There is a reason why people see Jimmie as a bland, non-appealing dude.
 
Stewart Fan said:
The thing about JJ is that he's the most focused driver on the track. He's not worried about Nationwide, trucks or some dirt race that weekend. He just puts all his effort into Cup and it clearly pays off.
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I agree. I understand the desire to race.... in anything.

Remember Days of Thunder and the rental car race to dinner... Anyway. To be at the top... to be focused and to be the best..... you have to have your eye on one thing, and I feel that this is what JJ does well...the CC does well and the team does well.
 
reck said:
Outside of LOWES duties, meetings and so on what else is he doing? There is a reason why people see Jimmie as a bland, non-appealing dude.
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Who knows? He probably just keeps his private life private - which is why he can remain so focused.

When the Jeff/Brooke saga hit air waves you saw Jeff's performance suffer. The whole racing world knew his private life was falling apart. When the world found out about Kurt's temper (the media could have easily left that alone & let him figure it out on his own) it seemed everyone was against him and his decision making only became worse.

So just because a driver keeps his life off the track private does not mean everything he does is focused on racing & is a complete drone. They prefer to keep what's on the track on the track and what's off the track off of it. Which is how it should be. You don't see your boss leaking every bit of info about your home life to your co-workers do you?
 
Not that I don't like Gordon (I think he's a good racer), just that I'm stumped to why NASCAR added him as the 13th man in the chase, if it was anyone else then NASCAR wouldn't have ever added a 13th man. It feels like when Kerry Fraser was repeatedly giving Wayne Gretzky a break when he did something or calling a goal on him when someone else actually touched the puck.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Who knows? He probably just keeps his private life private - which is why he can remain so focused.

When the Jeff/Brooke saga hit air waves you saw Jeff's performance suffer. The whole racing world knew his private life was falling apart. When the world found out about Kurt's temper (the media could have easily left that alone & let him figure it out on his own) it seemed everyone was against him and his decision making only became worse.

So just because a driver keeps his life off the track private does not mean everything he does is focused on racing & is a complete drone. They prefer to keep what's on the track on the track and what's off the track off of it. Which is how it should be. You don't see your boss leaking every bit of info about your home life to your co-workers do you?
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He can't be too boring he got drunk and fell off of the top of a golf cart that was racing another golf cart, among other crazy things. :D
 
Johali said:
He can't be too boring he got drunk and fell off of the top of a golf cart that was racing another golf cart, among other crazy things. :D
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Racing golf carts is actually fun, I got caught doing it at a serious golf tournament one year, actually rear ended another golf cart... lmao
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Not sure what ur asking here? Or do you think it says Johnson is the most popular? It says Dale was the most popular in the '90's until he was dethroned by Gordon.
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What does the writer mean by "most popular?" Earnhardt, Sr., never won the award in the '90s, that went to Bill Elliott. Gordon never won NASCARs' Most Popular Driver Award. It was awarded posthumously to Dale, Sr., in 2001. Bill Elliott won in 2002 and since that time, the award has gone to Dale, Jr.

There is reason to believe he voting system for "NASCAR Most Popular Driver Award" is flawed but still, the results still seem to be an indicator. Not sure what the writer means.
 
reck said:
That's truebut I dont think that's quite why he's so excellent and precise.

Outside of LOWES duties, meetings and so on what else is he doing? There is a reason why people see Jimmie as a bland, non-appealing dude.
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If he would just slap Kevin Harvick around a bit he would get some respect ;)
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Who knows? He probably just keeps his private life private - which is why he can remain so focused.

When the Jeff/Brooke saga hit air waves you saw Jeff's performance suffer. The whole racing world knew his private life was falling apart. When the world found out about Kurt's temper (the media could have easily left that alone & let him figure it out on his own) it seemed everyone was against him and his decision making only became worse.

So just because a driver keeps his life off the track private does not mean everything he does is focused on racing & is a complete drone. They prefer to keep what's on the track on the track and what's off the track off of it. Which is how it should be. You don't see your boss leaking every bit of info about your home life to your co-workers do you?
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There is a difference though.

Each person you mentioned had it coming.

Gordon got into that relationship without NASCAR's concent (It was not appropiate or allow to date one of the NASCAR girls) so its not like it couldn't have been avoided. When heart gets in the way of business so and so.

Didn't help she was a gold digger and the main instigator in the divorce and everything that followed.

With Kurt, it was even more avoidable. You're a NASCAR driver, you're one of the most accesible athletes in sports so when the media gets a freebie like this they will chew on it until they spit your carcass.
 
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