Atlanta Cup Pre Race Thread

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Friday
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain. High of 86F with a heat index of 91F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Friday Night
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Clear with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain in the evening, then partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain. Low of 70F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
Hourly Forecast6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point74 | 7283 | 7282 | 7276 | 72
Wind5 mph NNE5 mph ENE5 mph ENE2 mph ESE
Humidity90%70%67%86%
Chance of Precip.10%30% 30%20%
Cloud Cover39%45%57% 25%
ConditionsPartly CloudyChance of a ThunderstormChance of a ThunderstormChance of a Thunderstorm
Sunrise & Sunset
7:10 AM
8:05 PM
 
Saturday
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain. High of 84F with a heat index of 90F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
Saturday Night
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the evening, then clear. Low of 70F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
Hourly Forecast6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point73 | 7279 | 7282 | 7174 | 71
Wind1 mph ESE2 mph South2 mph SW4 mph SSE
Humidity95%73%68%88%
Chance of Precip.20%40% 40%20%
Cloud Cover39%32%66% 61%
ConditionsChance of a ThunderstormChance of a ThunderstormChance of a ThunderstormChance of a Thunderstorm
Sunrise & Sunset
7:10 AM
8:04 PM
 
Sunday
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the morning, then overcast with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. High of 88F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 60% with rainfall amounts near 0.2 in. possible.
Sunday Night
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Overcast with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. Low of 72F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 30% with rainfall amounts near 0.2 in. possible.
Hourly Forecast6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point72 | 7078 | 7380 | 7474 | 70
Wind3 mph SSW4 mph WSW5 mph West5 mph SSW
Humidity92%84%78%83%
Chance of Precip.0%30% 30%10%
Cloud Cover3%69%100% 96%
ConditionsClearChance of a ThunderstormChance of a ThunderstormOvercast
Sunrise & Sunset
7:11 AM
8:02 PM
 
Odds
AdvoCare 500
Sunday, 01 September 2013
DriverTopBet
Jimmie Johnson5-1
Matt Kenseth6-1
Kasey Kahne7-1
Kyle Busch7-1
Kevin Harvick10-1
Jeff Gordon10-1
Brad Keselowski10-1
Kurt Busch12-1
Martin Truex Jr.15-1
Denny Hamlin15-1
Dale Earnhardt Jr.15-1
Clint Bowyer15-1
Carl Edwards18-1
Joey Logano20-1
Brian Vickers25-1
Greg Biffle25-1
Ryan Newman40-1
Jamie McMurray75-1
Juan Montoya75-1
Mark Martin75-1
Ricky Stenhouse Jr.100-1
Paul Menard100-1
Jeff Burton100-1
Marcos Ambrose100-1
Aric Almirola100-1
A.J. Allmendinger100-1
Danica Patrick100-1
Bobby Labonte100-1
Austin Dillon100-1
Field ( Any Other Driver )50-1
 
EVENT SCHEDULE
(Sprint Cup Series)
Times are local to the Track

Friday, August 30
8:30 am NSCS haulers enter
10:00 am NSCS Garage Opens
2:00 pm NSCS Rookie & Spotter Meeting & Drawing for Qualifying Order
3:00 - 4:30 pm NSCS practice
6:40 pm NSCS qualifying
8:30 pm NSCS Garage Closes

Saturday, August 31
1:00 pm NSCS Garage Opens
3:00 - 3:55 pm NSCS practice
6:00 - 6:50 pm NSCS final practice
9:00 pm NSCS Garage Closes

Sunday, September 1
11:00 am - 12:30 pm Speedway Children's Charities Track Walk
1:30 pm NSCS Garage Opens
5:30 pm NSCS Driver/Crew Chief Meeting
7:00 pm NSCS driver introductions
7:30 pm NSCS by Coupon Companion">AdvoCare 500 Race

NSCS = Sprint Cup Series
SUBJECT TO CHANGE
Times are local to the Track
 
PRACTICE & QUALIFYING
Dates / Times / TV coverage
(times in eastern time)
  • Practices:
    Friday, August 30, 3:00 - 4:30 pm/et, TV-FS1
    Saturday, August 31, 3:00 - 3:55 am/et, TV-FS2

  • Happy Hour 'Final' practice: Saturday, August 31, 6:00 - 6:50pm/et, TV-FS2

  • Qualifying: 2 laps for positions 1-36, Friday, August 30 at 6:40 pm/et, TV-FS1 at 7:00pm/et, no re-air scheduled.
 
Top 12 Driver Ratings at Atlanta:

#48-Jimmie Johnson....................... 108.3
#24-Jeff Gordon.............................. 104.8
#14-Tony Stewart............................ 100.2 (will not race)
#99-Carl Edwards............................. 99.8
#11-Denny Hamlin............................. 99.7
#20-Matt Kenseth.............................. 96.4
#78-Kurt Busch................................. 94.6
#88-Dale Earnhardt Jr....................... 93.3
#18-Kyle Busch................................. 92.8
#16-Greg Biffle................................. 92.6
#56-Martin Truex Jr.......................... 90.8
#6-Kasey Kahne.............................. 88.9

Note: Driver Ratings compiled from 2005-2012 races (14 total) among active drivers at Atlanta Motor Speedway.
Formula combining the following categories: Wins, Finishes, Top-15 Finishes, Average Running Position While on Lead Lap, Average Speed Under Green, Fastest Lap, Led Most Laps, Lead-Lap Finish. Maximum: 150 points per race.(NASCAR)
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
PRACTICE & QUALIFYING
Dates / Times / TV coverage
(times in eastern time)



    • Practices:
      Friday, August 30, 3:00 - 4:30 pm/et, TV-FS1
      Saturday, August 31, 3:00 - 3:55 am/et, TV-FS2
    • Happy Hour 'Final' practice: Saturday, August 31, 6:00 - 6:50pm/et, TV-FS2
    • Qualifying: 2 laps for positions 1-36, Friday, August 30 at 6:40 pm/et, TV-FS1 at 7:00pm/et, no re-air scheduled.
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Thanks for the TV schedule, I look forward to it every week.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
That schedule will now make me look to see if I even get FS2 on Dish. I am not sure if I do. Anyone out there know what channel number that might be?
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Nope, I have it on Direct TV though, channel 618. :D
 
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Nice pic of AMS. It's a long time until they get this thing started. Wait, what's that? Grit Chips anyone? At the risk of offending probably most everyone on this board that's tried the damn things, I gotta say, they are one of the most horrible chips that I've ever eaten. I got suckered into buying their product this past spring, in Bristol, when they sponsored the Nationwide race. Two hot babes in spandex crop tops and spandex pants somehow caught my attention @ the Grit Chips display and next thing I knew I was buying chips off of them. You might be a redneck if you like these things! Right Jeff? Anyhow, I did find a good use for them. The winters sometimes get bad here in western PA. I carry the remaining bags in the trunk of my car in case I get stuck in the snow. Smash the bag and throw a little under the drive wheels and it'll get you out of that ditch. Unfortunately, to this day, I still have a fear of spandex though. :(
 
Never really can comprehend that banking 'till you're there in person
 
New tire being used at AMS this weekend. We'll probably be hearing a lot more about this into the weekend.

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As drivers take to the track for this weekend’s NASCAR Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series races at Atlanta Motor Speedway, they’ll be riding on a newly designed Goodyear Eagle race tire with roots in consumer tire technology.

Goodyear’s new right-side tire for Atlanta marks the by Coupon Companion">introduction of its Multi-Zone Tread Technology, which combines two different rubber compounds in a single tread to face the conditions of one of NASCAR’s most demanding speedways. And while Goodyear often applies what it learns in the high-performance world of NASCAR to the development of consumer tires, this time technology was transferred from the street to the track.

“Atlanta is one of our biggest challenges from a tire perspective,” said Stu Grant, Goodyear’s general manager of worldwide racing. “The abrasive track surface causes extremely high wear, while the length and layout promote very high speeds.”

from here
 
Interesting tire design. I've often wondered why the didn't use a tough compound surrounding plugs of a softer, grippier compound.

I sure hope all this stays together. Since the softer compound is on the outside edge, I think those HMS cars with their huge camber will suffer quite a bit.
 
Im looking forward to seeing how these tires react. I don't know much about tire compounds and all that but I do love me some tire wear track racin'.
 
FenderBumper said:
Interesting tire design. I've often wondered why the didn't use a tough compound surrounding plugs of a softer, grippier compound.

I sure hope all this stays together. Since the softer compound is on the outside edge, I think those HMS cars with their huge camber will suffer quite a bit.
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Looking forward to hearing about it tomorrow. The nationwide race will be a good indication of what to expect in the cup race I'm pretty sure they're both using the same tire.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Looking forward to hearing about it tomorrow. The nationwide race will be a good indication of what to expect in the cup race I'm pretty sure they're both using the same tire.
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Notes: Teams in both the NASCAR Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series will be running the same combination of left- and right-side tires at Atlanta this weekend . . . this is the same left--side tire code (D-4384) that these teams have run the last two seasons at this track . . . this new right-side tire code (D-4602) is making its debut at Atlanta and incorporates Goodyear Racings new zone tread technology . . . the tire combines the compound that has recently been run at Kansas and Michigan on the inside three inches of the tread, with the compound run at Atlanta for the last seasons across the rest of the tread . . . the concept will give teams endurance and heat resistance on the inside third of the tire and traction on the outside two-thirds . . . while Goodyear has used the multi-zone concept on passenger tires before, this is its first application in NASCAR . . . this tire was confirmed at a Goodyear test with 13 drivers at Atlanta on August 6 . . . drivers participating in that test were Aric Almirola, Kurt Busch, Carl Edwards, Kasey Kahne, Matt Kenseth, Brad Keselowski, Jamie McMurray, Casey Mears, Paul Menard, David Ragan, David Reutimann, Martin Truex Jr. and J.J. Yeley . . . as on all NASCAR ovals greater than one mile in length, teams are required to run liners in all four tire positions at Atlanta. . . . air pressure in those inner liners should be 12-25 psi greater than that of the outer tire.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Im looking forward to seeing how these tires react. I don't know much about tire compounds and all that but I do love me some tire wear track racin'.
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I'm not so sure they equate. The cup cars are much faster and heavier. I hope it works out, because tire wear (without blowouts) would go a long way to seeing better racing.
 
I always like when strategy comes into a race. Fuel, tire wear, pit windows etc.. makes for a good finish. Its fun trying to follow all the different strategies.. that's why I try to never miss a lap. I hate coming into a race half way and not knowing what's going on with who.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Notes: Teams in both the NASCAR Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series will be running the same combination of left- and right-side tires at Atlanta this weekend . . . this is the same left--side tire code (D-4384) that these teams have run the last two seasons at this track . . . this new right-side tire code (D-4602) is making its debut at Atlanta and incorporates Goodyear Racings new zone tread technology . . . the tire combines the compound that has recently been run at Kansas and Michigan on the inside three inches of the tread, with the compound run at Atlanta for the last seasons across the rest of the tread . . . the concept will give teams endurance and heat resistance on the inside third of the tire and traction on the outside two-thirds . . . while Goodyear has used the multi-zone concept on passenger tires before, this is its first application in NASCAR . . . this tire was confirmed at a Goodyear test with 13 drivers at Atlanta on August 6 . . . drivers participating in that test were Aric Almirola, Kurt Busch, Carl Edwards, Kasey Kahne, Matt Kenseth, Brad Keselowski, Jamie McMurray, Casey Mears, Paul Menard, David Ragan, David Reutimann, Martin Truex Jr. and J.J. Yeley . . . as on all NASCAR ovals greater than one mile in length, teams are required to run liners in all four tire positions at Atlanta. . . . air pressure in those inner liners should be 12-25 psi greater than that of the outer tire.
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WTF? So there is no new, grippier compound being used? They simply added 3 inches of HARDER compound to the inside?

Same old hard compound with 3 inches of even harder compound. So much for more wear.
 
2008 Atlanta Kyle Busch won his 1st Cup race in a Toyota - He now has 99 wins in Toyotas: 23 NSCS 49 NNS 27 NCWTS

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Johali said:
All I ever want to hear out of any CC on the scanner when a car is coming in is "Four Tires and Fuel", In My Opinion that's racing.
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Instead, we get "Stay out and save gas". Who cares if the fans are bored? Matt already won 3 races on old tires, so throw away the lug wrenches and lets go coasting!
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
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Nice pic of AMS. It's a long time until they get this thing started. Wait, what's that? Grit Chips anyone? At the risk of offending probably most everyone on this board that's tried the damn things, I gotta say, they are one of the most horrible chips that I've ever eaten. I got suckered into buying their product this past spring, in Bristol, when they sponsored the Nationwide race. Two hot babes in spandex crop tops and spandex pants somehow caught my attention @ the Grit Chips display and next thing I knew I was buying chips off of them. You might be a redneck if you like these things! Right Jeff? Anyhow, I did find a good use for them. The winters sometimes get bad here in western PA. I carry the remaining bags in the trunk of my car in case I get stuck in the snow. Smash the bag and throw a little under the drive wheels and it'll get you out of that ditch. Unfortunately, to this day, I still have a fear of spandex though. :(
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Pictures of wrong thang. Spandex pictures please.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Top 12 Driver Ratings at Atlanta:

#48-Jimmie Johnson....................... 108.3
#24-Jeff Gordon.............................. 104.8
#14-Tony Stewart............................ 100.2 (will not race)
#99-Carl Edwards............................. 99.8
#11-Denny Hamlin............................. 99.7
#20-Matt Kenseth.............................. 96.4
#78-Kurt Busch................................. 94.6
#88-Dale Earnhardt Jr....................... 93.3
#18-Kyle Busch................................. 92.8
#16-Greg Biffle................................. 92.6
#56-Martin Truex Jr.......................... 90.8
#6-Kasey Kahne.............................. 88.9

Note: Driver Ratings compiled from 2005-2012 races (14 total) among active drivers at Atlanta Motor Speedway.
Formula combining the following categories: Wins, Finishes, Top-15 Finishes, Average Running Position While on Lead Lap, Average Speed Under Green, Fastest Lap, Led Most Laps, Lead-Lap Finish. Maximum: 150 points per race.(NASCAR)
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Gordon has been the hottest Atlanta driver the last two years, he just hasn't sealed the deal in the closing laps.

I am thinking he will be more aggressive this year based on the urgency.
 
Johali said:
All I ever want to hear out of any CC on the scanner when a car is coming in is "Four Tires and Fuel", In My Opinion that's racing.
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or how about "Its a big risk taking two tires here, lets take four." seems taking two tires is no big deal anymore.
 
FenderBumper said:
Apparently, some drivers are calling this "Franken-tire". lol
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Others, like your driver, think that this tire is going to be a good thing.

The tire’s inside shoulder features a firmer compound to help manage wear for enhanced durability. The outside two-thirds of the tread uses a more tractive tread compound to help increase grip for better handling.

Goodyear hopes that this will give teams more choice as far as camber and will be able to balance the difficulty of good traction while limiting excessive wear at a high-speed track such as Atlanta.

“It’s very, very important that that tire succeeds because it is the future of our sport,” Keselowski said.

“It’s the solution for the lack of side-by-side racing that we have in the sense of what Goodyear is able to do.”

Keselowski, the 2012 Sprint Cup champion, was one of 13 drivers to test the tire at Atlanta earlier this month.

“We’re going to find out in a trial by fire at Atlanta how it is going to work,” Keselowski said. “So far the test was good, and that is great.”

Read the rest here.
 
On Race Hub Booty Barker said that because the harder compound is on the inside that the grip is on the outside and they'll have to run the tire straight/ less camber to get grip on the track. Which will make it interesting for the teams that have hit on something in the tire area. I'm pretty sure they'll have to run different setups to counteract the handling differences from having less camber. Could make for a surprise winner. Or at least a few surprise losers.
 
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