Bleacher report's video break down of Biffle's failure to race.

I heard Jack Roush on SIRIUS NASCAR Radio last night talking about the Daytona 500 finish, HMS's penalty, and more blah blah blah from Jack.

He basically said the same as you Bucky that Biff was foot to the floor the whole time and that he and the Biff reviewed the telemetry yesterday sometime. No word came from him about releasing the information to the public though.

On the HMS penalty, he basically only said that what HMS did is not something that he would ever do. OK Jack I hear ya. :rolleyes:

He also had advice on how the firefighters should have been fighting the fire.

Jack, ever the problem solver. ;)

He also went on about airplanes, flying, blah, blah, blah.....
 
Even if Biff wasn't in the gas the whole time..Jr had a faster car than Biff, and Biff knew that...Biff and Jr pass Mat, Jr passes Biff....Sorta like what happened because Jr finished 2nd. Who would you rather win the race your teammate or your enemy? The choice is obvious. I think most people in the same situation under the same circumstances would do what the Biff did....IF HE WASN'T on the gas....
 
Bucky Badger said:
I read on another forum, that the Biff was on the gas the whole time, and NASCAR is thinking of releasing the data. Time will tell.
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Where did the person on that other forum get their info? Did they provide a link? If so, please post it here for our review.
 
Bucky Badger said:
Even if Biff wasn't in the gas the whole time..Jr had a faster car than Biff, and Biff knew that...Biff and Jr pass Mat, Jr passes Biff....Sorta like what happened because Jr finished 2nd. Who would you rather win the race your teammate or your enemy? The choice is obvious. I think most people in the same situation under the same circumstances would do what the Biff did....IF HE WASN'T on the gas....
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Why was Biffle able to get to the bumper of the 17 all race long without being pushed but was unable to do so while being pushed? Seems odd.
 
Telemetry was release, he was on the gas the whole time, and no brake. It was on RaceHub last night at 6.

Doesn't matter anyhow. He didn't pull out of line to slow Kenseth to win the race for himself. That's what matters.
 
MOEJOE said:
Telemetry was release, he was on the gas the whole time, and no brake. It was on RaceHub last night at 6.

Doesn't matter anyhow. He didn't pull out of line to slow Kenseth to win the race for himself. That's what matters.
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Pulling out of line wouldn't have slowed Kenseth. Biff and Jr. weren't close enough. So now that it's confirmed that Greg wasn't dragging the brake, I have to ask myself, why did Jr. wait until the last corner to go around the 16?
 
BobbyFord said:
Pulling out of line wouldn't have slowed Kenseth. Biff and Jr. weren't close enough. So now that it's confirmed that Greg wasn't dragging the brake, I have to ask myself, why did Jr. wait until the last corner to go around the 16?
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Because he had no help. That run would only last a few seconds and he'd then drop like a rock with no help. I think he did all that he could given the Biff left his nads @ home that night.
 
BobbyFord said:
So EVERYBODY was being slowed down by the 16? How wide was that car?
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The others were stuck racing side by side. Dale Jr knew what Greg was up to. Why else do you think he marched right over and got in Greg's face?
 
So, with the telemetry being released and the fact that "the others were stuck racing side by side" and the fact that "Jr. had no help" then the race ended in the only manner possible...
 
They released the brake and throttle telemetry? I'd like to see that. Is there a link to that info?

It's not that I don't believe you, it's that I don't believe anyone.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Because he had no help. That run would only last a few seconds and he'd then drop like a rock with no help. I think he did all that he could given the Biff left his nads @ home that night.
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Just like how Kenseth would have dropped back if Biffle would have pulled out of line.

BobbyFord said:
Pulling out of line wouldn't have slowed Kenseth. Biff and Jr. weren't close enough. So now that it's confirmed that Greg wasn't dragging the brake, I have to ask myself, why did Jr. wait until the last corner to go around the 16?
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Matthew2470 said:
They released the brake and throttle telemetry? I'd like to see that. Is there a link to that info?

It's not that I don't believe you, it's that I don't believe anyone.
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Biffle said it was release on Race Hub. I don't know where though.
 
I find it funny that Biffle said that the air in front of his car was pushing the 17, and that's why he couldn't make the pass". We'', derrrr, every driver knows that. The tandem doesn't usually FOLLOW the lead car, they run the high line so they can build speed. Like I've said all along, why didn't Greg pull out and try to pass, especially knowing that staying behind Matt pushes him? Jr knew this, which is why he tried to move high, only to have Biffle block him.

Biffle is full of sheet. Winning that race wasn't the single biggest thing on his mind, and only he knows why.
 
MOEJOE said:
Telemetry was release, he was on the gas the whole time, and no brake. It was on RaceHub last night at 6.

Doesn't matter anyhow. He didn't pull out of line to slow Kenseth to win the race for himself. That's what matters.[/quote


You think PROOF is going to change anyones mind ? No way.
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What the proof that he was on the gas the whole time ? Yeah , what more could he do?
 
ted@economy said:
What the proof that he was on the gas the whole time ? Yeah , what more could he do?
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Telemetry from the new on board computer box thingy.

Throtte was down, and no brakes. That's what biffle said the thingy said.
 
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