BREAKING NEWS- CHAD KNAUS CHEATING ALREADY

robbybee said:
Cars fail first inspections on a regular basis. The infractions are noted, the team is allowed to correct the issues and the car is represented to the inspectors.

It wasn't a post-race, post-qualifying or even post-practice infraction. This car never even turned a lap on the race track.

Chill out, y'all!!
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I didn't hear of other teams failing yesterday. I probably missed that if there were.
 
The fact that parts were confiscated should say that it was pretty blatant. Being that it is the 48 means that NASCAR won't do anything just like last year...
 
Heh ,comeon , it's Chad and Jimmy , lighten up .It's not like it's Kurt or Kyle. Jeech no fines or penalties please.
 
MAGICMILER said:
I didn't hear of other teams failing yesterday. I probably missed that if there were.
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There might not have been any others yesterday. But throughout the year, cars will be turned away because something ain't right. It would not be a big deal if it were any car other than the 48 - or at least not nearly as big a deal as this is...
 
robbybee said:
There might not have been any others yesterday. But throughout the year, cars will be turned away because something ain't right. It would not be a big deal if it were any car other than the 48 - or at least not nearly as big a deal as this is...
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Yep I agree, if it had been a lower tier team this would be ho hum...oh well. I think Nascar will take into consideration Chads' pevious inftractions and penalize the team and him substantially. If this were the first time this would probably be a slap on the wrist and on your way don't do it again...blah blah. In the same breath I don't think this will stop Chad or any other teams from going into that "grey area".
 
The one thing you might take into consideration is that the car had ALREADY been to r&d and was certified by nascar
 
Ok.... now I just heard Larry Mac say that the car actually fit the template, but Nascar didn't like the way it looked, so they made them change it. Ok so it FIT the template, this kind changes the way I'm viewing this whole deal now. Maybe they won't be slammed with a huge penalty.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Ok.... now I just heard Larry Mac say that the car actually fit the template, but Nascar didn't like the way it looked, so they made them change it. Ok so it FIT the template, this kind changes the way I'm viewing this whole deal now. Maybe they won't be slammed with a huge penalty.
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I didn't hear that. So WTF??! It FIT and they are still roasting Chad's nuts?

NA$$CAR being subjective with their rules - again? What a freaking joke...
 
Yeh that's what they were saying on SPEED before the race. Kenny Wallace and Kyle Petty were like so what's the big deal. They changed it, fixed the problem, should be no issue was the impression I was getting from them. Of course when hasn't Nascar been subjective with their rules. What I don't get is if fit the Template why do they have to change it???
 
He said, she said we said, boris said, who cares. When NASCAR comes out with the OFFICIAL explanation, all this speculation is wasting valuable digitial ink,time and energy.
What's really important is that Kurt will have a meltdown and I want to see it...
 
Does anyone remember a few years ago when JJ and Jeffey brought cars that fit the templates but the fenders had obviously been manipulated?

NASCAR president Mike Helton said Saturday its a "high likelihood" crew chief Chad Knaus will be penalized. But, Helton indicated punishment would not be doled out until after the Feb. 26 season-opening Daytona 500 race.

The No. 48 Chevrolet had illegally modified sheet metal between the roof and the side windows - the area known as the C-posts - that was found in Friday's opening day inspection.

NASCAR took the C-posts from the Hendrick Motorsports team and shipped them to its research and development facility.

Knaus has been suspended twice before by NASCAR, including before the 2006 Daytona 500. But Helton said the difference is that 2006's penalty resulted from infractions in a post-qualifying inspection - meaning something was changed on the car after it had arrived at the track.
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http://www.news4jax.com/sports/Jimm...a-500/-/475646/8804162/-/n0cueiz/-/index.html
 
The C post covers on the car were not the right size. Period.

If they could have been modified to fit the form it should have they would not have removed them and replaced them with new ones from Charlotte.

Yes, Chad will get hit hard, I don't see a suspension though.
 
UPDATE: NASCAR will likely penalize the crew chief for five-time champion #48-Jimmie Johnson for infractions found during Daytona 500 inspection. NASCAR president Mike Helton said Saturday its a "high likelihood" crew chief Chad Knaus will be penalized. But, Helton indicated punishment would not be doled out until after the Feb. 26 season-opening Daytona 500 race. Friday's incident "fits in the category of prerace inspection issues that we've had in the past," Helton said Saturday morning. "It will warrant a reaction from us more so than what you've seen already, . more than what we've done so far," he added.(Associated Press)
Why is Knaus still here? The question repeated most often on Saturday was, "Why wasn't crew chief Chad Knaus ejected from the track and suspended immediately, as he was in 2006?" The difference was that, in 2006, Knaus was busted for unapproved changes to the rear window after qualifying, not before. NASCAR president Mike Helton said the infractions will be addressed after the Daytona 500. In the interim, Knaus and the #48 team won't receive any more scrutiny than any other team. "Our level of scrutiny is high on everybody every time," Helton said. "So there's no way to get more scrutiny."(NASCAR WIre Service)
Hendrick comments: Hendrick Motorsports owner Rick Hendrick said before Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout that the car is the same one that Johnson ran in all four restrictor plate races last season, including the Daytona 500, and the roof had not been altered. He added that the car went to NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C., for inspection and was returned without any notification of being outside the lines. "That car, we've run it four times,'' Hendrick said. "It was built for this place and they never touched the roof, and it's been to the Tech Center after they won Talladega (in the spring). All that's been done is paint it, so I don't get it.'' Hendrick acknowledged that this is the same car Knaus was caught on film prior to the October Talladega race telling Johnson to damage the rear end if he won. Johnson's car was taken back to the R&D center after that race and the remaining races in 2011.(ESPN)(2-19-2012)
 
WOW! Mr. Hendrick's comment makes this whole thing a LOT more interesting!

Thanks, Bobby!!
 
Has anyone heard anything from anybody in the HMS stable about this whole mess? Gag orders, I suppose, but what if #48 ends up on the pole - he'll have to talk to the media.:eek:
 
#17D500winner said:
Has anyone heard anything from anybody in the HMS stable about this whole mess? Gag orders, I suppose, but what if #48 ends up on the pole - he'll have to talk to the media.:eek:
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I think if that car ends up on the pole the firestorm will get out of control:eek:
 
MOEJOE said:
before the body got hung.
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Hendrick comments: Hendrick Motorsports owner Rick Hendrick said before Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout that the car is the same one that Johnson ran in all four restrictor plate races last season, including the Daytona 500, and the roof had not been altered. He added that the car went to NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C., for inspection and was returned without any notification of being outside the lines. "That car, we've run it four times,'' Hendrick said. "It was built for this place and they never touched the roof, and it's been to the Tech Center after they won Talladega (in the spring). All that's been done is paint it, so I don't get it.'' Hendrick acknowledged that this is the same car Knaus was caught on film prior to the October Talladega race telling Johnson to damage the rear end if he won. Johnson's car was taken back to the R&D center after that race and the remaining races in 2011.(ESPN)(2-19-2012)
 
MOEJOE said:
The C post covers on the car were not the right size. Period.

If they could have been modified to fit the form it should have they would not have removed them and replaced them with new ones from Charlotte.

Yes, Chad will get hit hard, I don't see a suspension though.
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NASCAR took the parts in question so the team was unable to modify them and make them legal, thus they had to get new ones from the shop.
This is turning into an interesting deal,No one seems to have any idea what way NASCAR will head? Wonder why they are waiting till AFTER the 500 for any announcement of penalty's? If there are any?
 
fastfordfan said:
Hendrick comments: Hendrick Motorsports owner Rick Hendrick said before Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout that the car is the same one that Johnson ran in all four restrictor plate races last season, including the Daytona 500, and the roof had not been altered. He added that the car went to NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C., for inspection and was returned without any notification of being outside the lines. "That car, we've run it four times,'' Hendrick said. "It was built for this place and they never touched the roof, and it's been to the Tech Center after they won Talladega (in the spring). All that's been done is paint it, so I don't get it.'' Hendrick acknowledged that this is the same car Knaus was caught on film prior to the October Talladega race telling Johnson to damage the rear end if he won. Johnson's car was taken back to the R&D center after that race and the remaining races in 2011.(ESPN)(2-19-2012)
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So.......That's his word...I don't believe him for a second
 
I think the waiting is just to give NASCAR time to fully understand what the #48 was doing. I wonder if they plan to put those pieces on a car and get the wind tunnel cranked up to see what affect they have. This is the car Chad told JJ to bend up if he wins, so I'm surprised they didn't take the whole thing to the tech center.
 
FenderBumper said:
This is the car Chad told JJ to bend up if he wins, so I'm surprised they didn't take the whole thing to the tech center.
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They did.....

Hendrick acknowledged that this is the same car Knaus was caught on film prior to the October Talladega race telling Johnson to damage the rear end if he won. Johnson's car was taken back to the R&D center after that race and the remaining races in 2011.
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From Jayski.
 
Pretty obvious to me that someone is telling a LIE
Hendrix said the car has not been touched
Nascar said it was illegal
You decide or you can wait on more facts if they come
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
They did.....



From Jayski.
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Obviously, I was talking about this week. They missed the C-post infraction last time it was at the tech center, so you would think they would want to take the whole car back and see what else they may have missed.
 
Something is fishy here for sure and the truth may never be known. If this car is indeed the same car that the 48 ran last year, I find it hard to believe that the tech guys at Nascar missed the C- post when they brought to the R&D center. You would think that car would have been scrutinized up and down and nothing would of been neglected for inspection.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Something is fishy here for sure and the truth may never be known. If this car is indeed the same car that the 48 ran last year, I find it hard to believe that the tech guys at Nascar missed the C- post when they brought to the R&D center. You would think that car would have been scrutinized up and down and nothing would of been neglected for inspection.
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We're talking about NASCAR here. Since the piece hit all the hard points on the template, I can see them missing it. HMS did lose some key engineers last year, and perhaps some of them are alerting NASCAR about any secrets they know and aren't comfortable using themselves with their new team. I find it strange that some guy inspecting the car for a non-points event finds something the tech center missed 3 or 4 times......if you believe Rick.
 
I'm shocked that they would cheat, shocked I tell ya
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I don't ever remember a time when there wasn't cheating. What is new is the constant critique of the punishment(if any) that Nascar hands out . They obviously have facts in hand that we are not aware of and they should be allowed to make their own decision.
 
NASCAR does little to evoke that kind of faith from me. Their history is full of turning a blind eye and self serving decisions when it's in the best interest of the France family bank accounts. The biggest problem with NASCAR is their attitude that the France family IS nascar, and they are greater than the sport.
 
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