Chase Elliott Injury/Rehab

DanicaFreak said:
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some teams in the NFL, I beleive have rules on what players can and cant do in the off season as well. Its not fun for the players I am sure but they can console themselves by rolling around in their cash.

However:I hope that racing teams make an allowance if the driver is racing in a diff series to get experience etc
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It always struck me as weird that team owners let drivers race in non-NASCAR series and do activities that could put their investments at risk. If Chase Elliott were to suffer a career-ending injury, it could end Hendrick's relationship with NAPA, not to mention the millions in merch that would be missed.

I know racing is different, but it's also the one sport where millions are tied to the individual driver. If the driver gets hurt for a long period of time, it could jeopardize funding for the team and result in people at the shop losing their jobs.
 
The Nature Boy said:
It always struck me as weird that team owners let drivers race in non-NASCAR series and do activities that could put their investments at risk. If Chase Elliott were to suffer a career-ending injury, it could end Hendrick's relationship with NAPA, not to mention the millions in merch that would be missed.

I know racing is different, but it's also the one sport where millions are tied to the individual driver. If the driver gets hurt for a long period of time, it could jeopardize funding for the team and result in people at the shop losing their jobs.
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It's weird. They stand a greater chance of being injured in a freak accident like snowboarding or skiing than racing in this or any other series.

I still say any driver that misses races due to an off-track accident should not be given a waiver.
 
MRM said:
It's weird. They stand a greater chance of being injured in a freak accident like snowboarding or skiing than racing in this or any other series.

I still say any driver that misses races due to an off-track accident should not be given a waiver.
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I agree in principle but I always looked at the waiver as a way to encourage drivers to not drive while sick or injured. It is also one of the great things about this playoff format.

If you get rid of the waiver for off-track activities, you might see guys drive hurt and risk further injury.
 
DanicaFreak said:
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some teams in the NFL, I beleive have rules on what players can and cant do in the off season as well. Its not fun for the players I am sure but they can console themselves by rolling around in their cash.

However:I hope that racing teams make an allowance if the driver is racing in a diff series to get experience etc
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This was discussed recently when Manuel Neuer broke his leg on a ski tour and was out for the rest of the Bundesliga season.

Ultimately it's up to the drivers and their management to negotiate their contract and what they're allowed/not allowed to do outside of NASCAR. I wouldn't expect changes to happen. It's not like this happens to someone every year.
 
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Berry and Jordan Taylor at COTA
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Jordan Taylor finally in a Cup car, an elite one at that.

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So looking at 6 weeks out that puts Chase back around Talladega
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I still don't think there should be waivers nor should there be a rule about having to run every race.

If NASCAR's worried about someone winning a race and only running part-time, put some other rules in place (have to run 60% of the races, or have to finish in the top-25 in points). NASCAR's other worry is the most popular driver missing a bunch of races ... which, here we are!

This hypothetical scenario where everyone's just gonna skip a bunch of races is just that, hypothetical. Stage points are too important and these drivers still try to get every stage win and stage point and playoff point they can.

Dale Earnhardt and Jeff Gordon didn't skip the final handful of races of the season after they already locked up their championships. Dale Earnhardt didn't ride around at Rockingham in 1994 when he already clinched the title.

This is just such a dumb rule.
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The top 30 rule was just fine. Nobody’s going to skip any races. You can’t assume you’re going to win so you have to sell all 36 races worth of sponsorship. Imagine Chase Elliott telling NAPA he’s gonna sit out 3 or 4 weeks because he has enough of a gap to 30th and already has 3 wins. Wouldn’t happen.
 
StandOnIt said:
I'm not Rick Hendrick, but Dega for Elliott's first race back? I'd think I would pass until the next week's race.
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Seems perfect to me have him ride around the back til the 1st caution and do a driver switch. Track position probably means the least there

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wi_racefan said:
Seems perfect to me have him ride around the back til the 1st caution and do a driver switch. Track position probably means the least there

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Hamlin and Stewart did that at Talladega in the past, but Pockrass explained that with the current rules you can’t gain playoff points or count a win towards eligibility with an in-race sub anymore. So it doesn’t really seem worth it.
 
aunty dive said:
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So a driver can get suspended and still get a waiver but he will be denied a waiver if he doesnt have the sponsorship or funds for a race.

I get that racing has never been fair and the cost is brutal to put it kindly. But it is hard to appreciate the determination to kick a man in the teeth while he is down while excusing another suspended driver with a waiver.
 
antman12 said:
Never heard of Jordan Taylor before so I checked out his IG and this dudes a f*****g character
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Holy cow wtf.

The dudes lost his mind...about 30 times lol

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Greg said:
So a driver can get suspended and still get a waiver but he will be denied a waiver if he doesnt have the sponsorship or funds for a race.

I get that racing has never been fair and the cost is brutal to put it kindly. But it is hard to appreciate the determination to kick a man in the teeth while he is down while excusing another suspended driver with a waiver.
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Suspensions should never get waivers unless it's an extraordinary circumstance like Kurt Busch.

I really think the standard should be modified to "good faith effort." If a team loses sponsorship, they should still be playoff eligible as long as they can prove to NASCAR that they're trying to make it to the races.
 
The Nature Boy said:
Suspensions should never get waivers unless it's an extraordinary circumstance like Kurt Busch.

I really think the standard should be modified to "good faith effort." If a team loses sponsorship, they should still be playoff eligible as long as they can prove to NASCAR that they're trying to make it to the races.
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^ I agree. But if they are going to give out waivers like a candy including giving them out to those who have been suspended it should obviously be a no brainer to automatically extend the same benefits to a team that lost sponsorship for an event.

The denied team would still have to earn their spot with a win or points just like any other team would. So they shouldn't be treated like some disrespected type of riff raff while the same body is accommodating everything else including those who committed offensives worthy of suspension.

I understand Nascar wants a model that has a field full of teams that meets the prerequisite of having the resources. Racing is also insanely unfair by nature it is hard to overcome bigger money.

But that shouldn't prompt Nascar to establish artificial barriers. It is also a real slap in the face to the common man.
The Dale Earnhardt story is a good example. He was the trailer park food stamp type that beat the insane odds and it is a story Nascar doesn't mind celebrating.
Nascar doesn't owe those with the dream an easier path and everyone should know that the cost of racing is cruel to sat the least. But Nascar doesn't have to be punitive or determined to artificially create more barriers.

They are saying they will treat you like shiet for the sin of not being able to make a race while forgiving those who clearly broke the rules. It is a real administrative Eff you.
 
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The Nature Boy said:
It always struck me as weird that team owners let drivers race in non-NASCAR series and do activities that could put their investments at risk. If Chase Elliott were to suffer a career-ending injury, it could end Hendrick's relationship with NAPA, not to mention the millions in merch that would be missed.

I know racing is different, but it's also the one sport where millions are tied to the individual driver. If the driver gets hurt for a long period of time, it could jeopardize funding for the team and result in people at the shop losing their jobs.
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And therein lies the problem of, money. The premise is financially based. Accidents happen and trying to dictate what activities someone might choose to engage in creates difficult situations. A professional race car driver could easily suffer a broken tibia in a highway crash created by a drunk driver. Should the team owner ban them from driving?
Snowboarding is an activity Chase had engaged in in the past and apparently is quite good at it. This was, pure and simple, an accident. Eliminating drivers from participating in what might be considered dangerous activities based solely on monetary conditions would place the driver in confinement based on a series of suppositions and "what ifs."
 
A large part of the posts here are from people who think they can control chaos. Elliott or anybody for that matter could have stepped of a curbing wrong and broke his ankle and almost a year to the day jumped out of my truck and landed on a rock and turned the other ankle hurrying home after work to get ready to fly out to Colorado on an all expense paid skiing trip . Stuff happens.
It's like what KDB was saying to Joe Gibbs after Joe Gibbs wasn't allowing him to race anything. I got hurt driving your car. Of course Joe didn't learn anything he is doing the same thing to Bell.
 
Whizzer said:
And therein lies the problem of, money. The premise is financially based. Accidents happen and trying to dictate what activities someone might choose to engage in creates difficult situations. A professional race car driver could easily suffer a broken tibia in a highway crash created by a drunk driver. Should the team owner ban them from driving?
Snowboarding is an activity Chase had engaged in in the past and apparently is quite good at it. This was, pure and simple, an accident. Eliminating drivers from participating in what might be considered dangerous activities based solely on monetary conditions would place the driver in confinement based on a series of suppositions and "what ifs."
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I've lost count of all the race car drivers/motorcycle riders who were injured in cycling accidents in recent years. Pro racers obviously have to engage in some physical activities to remain in shape.
What happened to Chase was unfortunate but as you said you can't just eliminate all risks in life.
 
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And therein lies the problem of, money. The premise is financially based. Accidents happen and trying to dictate what activities someone might choose to engage in creates difficult situations. A professional race car driver could easily suffer a broken tibia in a highway crash created by a drunk driver. Should the team owner ban them from driving?
Snowboarding is an activity Chase had engaged in in the past and apparently is quite good at it. This was, pure and simple, an accident. Eliminating drivers from participating in what might be considered dangerous activities based solely on monetary conditions would place the driver in confinement based on a series of suppositions and "what ifs."
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Other sports leagues have teams that ban their athletes from participating in dangerous recreational activities during the season (and some during the off-season), so it wouldn't be unprecedented for NASCAR teams to do the same. There's an inherent danger in daily life (such as driving your personal vehicle, which in Chase's case also includes flying). Still, teams try to minimize the risk by not letting their athletes do other risky activities when they're in season.

I'm not saying it's good or bad, but I've always found the laissez-faire approach to drivers to be a bit of an oddity, especially given how much rides on the success of the individual driver. If a ball sport player misses time, he has teammates who can pick up the slack, but a driver of Chase's caliber is more challenging to replace than even someone like Tom Brady.
 
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