Chevrolet next year?

[Charlie Spencer]

It's a 4 door Corvette on the street with similar performance.

Yeah, I have to get past my outdated perception of Cadillac as the brand for blue-haired grannies to drive to Dennys at 15mph under the speed limit.

 

[MRM]

Yeah, I have to get past my outdated perception of Cadillac as the brand for blue-haired grannies to drive to Dennys at 15mph under the speed limit.

You should drive one. Most are far from those.

 

[MRM]

My exact thought. They need something to sell to the average nascar fan

They do...SUVs and trucks.

 

[wi_racefan]

They do...SUVs and trucks.

But you're still marketing the chevy brand, not the higher end Cadillac brand that the average nascar fan can't afford

 

[Charlie Spencer]

They do...SUVs and trucks.

I've long said NASCAR should be running its race truck as the vehicle for its premiere Cup series. That's what people are buying in the US, and where the manufacturers make the most money.

 

[StandOnIt]

I've long said NASCAR should be running its race truck as the vehicle for its premiere Cup series. That's what people are buying in the US, and where the manufacturers make the most money.

You do watch the truck races right? Maybe the Malibu in the Xfinity and the Caddy in Cup. Works for me anyway.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

You should drive one. Most are far from those.

Thanks, but it's not a class of vehicle I'm interested in owning. I suspect if the cost of feeding it didn't scare me off, the property taxes and cost of insuring it would.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

You do watch the truck races right? Maybe the Malibu in the Xfinity and the Caddy in Cup. Works for me anyway.

Yep, I watch 'em. I don't get why the manufacturers still run psuedo-sedans in the top levels. Hasn't the market for sedans has been declining for decades? The EPA 'fleet MPG' rules inadvertently gave the manufacturers reasons to encourage vehicles built on truck platforms. Why use the sport to push a class of vehicles you're otherwise abandoning? Although based on those 2024 TV numbers someone just posted, Cadillac would definitely get more attention in Cup than in the underappreciated IMSA series. And any Cup Caddy can't look less like the factory model than the GTP does!

The trucks bear a closer resemblance to their showroom counterparts than the Cup cars do. And I think the trucks are more competitive on the track than the NextGen! If the Cup series ran trucks, DJ might bring back the Big Brown one!

 

[Charlie Spencer]

But you're still marketing the chevy brand, not the higher end Cadillac brand that the average nascar fan can't afford

Looks like plenty of overlap in the price ranges to me. Blatantly copied from Consumer Reports without permission.

 

[wi_racefan]

Looks like plenty of overlap in the price ranges to me. Blatantly copied from Consumer Reports without permission.

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And chevys #1 selling vehicle, the equinox, starts at 28k. Cadillac has nothing to offer in that range

 

[Charlie Spencer]

And chevys #1 selling vehicle, the equinox, starts at 28k. Cadillac has nothing to offer in that range

I picked the Silverado because it's a vehicle GM is already promoting to the NASCAR audience. They're not pushing the Equinox.

 

[virtualbalboa]

The people buying Silverados aren't interested in a sedan that costs similarly to their truck.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

But you're still marketing the chevy brand, not the higher end Cadillac brand that the average nascar fan can't afford

I was addressing your position that NASCAR fans can't afford Cadillacs. If the fans can afford the Silverados being marketed to them, they can afford Cadillacs. Except for the extreme high end, the price ranges overlap.

 

[DIDIT]

It's a 4 door Corvette on the street with similar performance.

Also a 2 door convertible that's a few years old that I want!

 

[StandOnIt]

I was addressing your position that NASCAR fans can't afford Cadillacs. If the fans can afford the Silverados being marketed to them, they can afford Cadillacs. Except for the extreme high end, the price ranges overlap.

Many go by how much would that raise my payments...a couple of years longer and a few bucks higher and there ya go.

 

[MRM]

People need to realize Ford and Chevrolet have left the car market aside from the Mustang, Malibu, and Corvette. Everything else is a truck or SUV. There's not much to choose from when it comes to fielding something in NASCAR. Either Chevy needs to come up with something else or GM get them out and replace them with Cadillac.

 

[virtualbalboa]

People need to realize Ford and Chevrolet have left the car market aside from the Mustang, Malibu, and Corvette. Everything else is a truck or SUV. There's not much to choose from when it comes to fielding something in NASCAR. Either Chevy needs to come up with something else or GM get them out and replace them with Cadillac.

Guys, they're racing spec GT3 chassis in NASCAR now. Y'all gotta get past this notion that there needs to be a tie in with an existing car model. That's over and done with. Also how are we still discussing the Malibu? If Chevy had a sedan it was still manufacturing and marketing, they wouldn't need to have a generic 2025 Chevy as the car this year. The only car Chevrolet will have in the NA lineup in the foreseeable future is the next generation Volt.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Either Chevy needs to come up with something else or GM get them out and replace them with Cadillac.

Or abandon the requirement for the NASCAR race vehicles to carry model-specific branding.

 

[Formerjackman]

Also a 2 door convertible that's a few years old that I want!

That car actually shares a chassis (but not an engine) with the C6 Corvette. Cadillac has nothing on par with the current C8 Corvette. The XLR was built at Bowling Green, but on a separate assembly line from the Corvette, with fewer robots and more human workers putting it together. The Northstar engine never really caught on as a performance engine though, unless you count its kissing cousin Olds Aurora V8 that Katech turned into a successful IMSA, and then a lights out IRL engine until Tony George grabbed his ankles and allowed leased non-production based engines in.