Could Monster be bought out?

@Allenbaba SHR also has relationship with Coke, who also was rumored to be buying Monster. Interesting...
 
I think something like this could have meant something big when the title sponsorship was being traded for 75 million or so but if the price is going to stay at around 20 million I don't see it having any impact other than a patch on a driver's suit and some funny moments if BKez wins.
 
Monster to me has been a disappointment. Sure they have tents at the track, Monster Girls and other fun things but the Promotion nationally has been well, non existent. I believe Smithfield does a better job
I would agree with this. I remember the first time I met Mitch Covington (Monster sports marketing guy) several years ago we discussed lots of "cool things" Monster could be doing in the series, but he wasn't super receptive. His approach to marketing was pretty simple: just put a cool logo on cool things and cool people and consumers will just assume you're cool. Hard to argue against that approach, it's a great way to sell an energy drink. But it certainly doesn't work for getting eyeballs on a sport. I get that it's not their job to sell the sport...but like you said, it would be pretty cool if the title sponsor did do things which helped sell the series nationally.
 
I would agree with this. I remember the first time I met Mitch Covington (Monster sports marketing guy) several years ago we discussed lots of "cool things" Monster could be doing in the series, but he wasn't super receptive. His approach to marketing was pretty simple: just put a cool logo on cool things and cool people and consumers will just assume you're cool. Hard to argue against that approach, it's a great way to sell an energy drink. But it certainly doesn't work for getting eyeballs on a sport. I get that it's not their job to sell the sport...but like you said, it would be pretty cool if the title sponsor did do things which helped sell the series nationally.
100% agree. Monster doesnt have to sell the sport but at least Run some National Spots on the weekend before the race. Surely they can afford that.
 
I think something like this could have meant something big when the title sponsorship was being traded for 75 million or so but if the price is going to stay at around 20 million I don't see it having any impact other than a patch on a driver's suit and some funny moments if BKez wins.
Would Miller be allowed to stay?

... His approach to marketing was pretty simple: just put a cool logo on cool things and cool people and consumers will just assume you're cool. Hard to argue against that approach, it's a great way to sell an energy drink. But it certainly doesn't work for getting eyeballs on a sport. ...
100% agree. Monster doesnt have to sell the sport but at least Run some National Spots on the weekend before the race. Surely they can afford that.
I'm aware their approach. I may be more aware of their approach than I am of them. I won't claim to know squat about marketing, especially as related to sports and / or Millennials and / or energy drink consumers, but Monster has to be the most low profile sponsor I've seen associated with anything. I dunno, maybe their market responds best to the low key approach. I'm not likely to every buy their product anyway, but from my recliner they're darn near invisible.

I'd love to see numbers showing how many of their existing customers have seen a race since Monster became associated with NASCAR. I know NASCAR was hoping from some form of cross-pollination, but is it happening?
 
If I give a driver a check for $20,000, is it my job to promote that driver, or is it their job to promote my business?

I already think Monster's been the best sponsor NASCAR's had since Winston because they do bring energy to the track. The atmosphere at Martinsville this spring was much different with them there than it has been in the past with Sprint.

Plus, Monster doesn't bar every company associated with the growing telecommunications industry from participating in the sport the way Sprint did.
 
If I give a driver a check for $20,000, is it my job to promote that driver, or is it their job to promote my business?
It's their job to promote your business. However, a lot more people will see that driver promoting your business if you put the occasional sign in the window letting people know when he's driving. Just the sign alone may attract those who pull for other drivers but favor any business involved in sports.

They can bring plenty of energy to the track, but if nobody knows that's going on, they're only going to reach the existing attendee base. Customers from other markets may not show up.

I acknowledge I'm not regularly exposed to the same outlets as Monster's target audience may view. For all I know, they're promoting the heck out of NASCAR in media formats I don't see.
 
Would Miller be allowed to stay?

Hopefully. It was never a problem when Winston, Busch, and Craftsman were sponsoring the show. They didn't seem to care if competing brands sponsored cars in the series' they sponsored. Once Sprint took over, they threw a hissy fit about Verizon and Cingular and that was that.
 
It's their job to promote your business. However, a lot more people will see that driver promoting your business if you put the occasional sign in the window letting people know when he's driving. Just the sign alone may attract those who pull for other drivers but favor any business involved in sports.

They do promote the sport.

Monster Energy's never been big into the traditional advertisement strategy companies like Sprint and Xfinity are... mainly because Monster's target demographic consumes entertainment very differently.
 
Apparently only rumor but who knows, the Cup Series could become the Busch Series.....

As in Anheuser-Busch



https://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Beyond+Beer,+AB-Inbev+(BUD)+Could+Look+to+Energy+Drink+Deal+(MNST)+-+Evercore+ISI/13412638.html


Perhaps the Monster-Bush series? I hate them things. ;)

Hopefully. It was never a problem when Winston, Busch, and Craftsman were sponsoring the show. They didn't seem to care if competing brands sponsored cars in the series' they sponsored. Once Sprint took over, they threw a hissy fit about Verizon and Cingular and that was that.

Probably offered Brian a ton of cash to change the rule.
 
I wonder what will change IF they get bought out. I believe they have another year left on their contract, I guess it could be bought out? I don't see them changing the name if they are
 
They do promote the sport.

Monster Energy's never been big into the traditional advertisement strategy companies like Sprint and Xfinity are... mainly because Monster's target demographic consumes entertainment very differently.
That's completely understandable. They're not trying to reach my generation of boob-tube watchers, and we're not as likely to be swayed by marketing anyway. I acknowledge those other methods of consumption aren't ones I use. Heck, I probably haven't heard of some of them. While it does render them invisible to me, I've assumed they're reaching out to someone. It's just not on my radar.
 
...Plus, Monster doesn't bar every company associated with the growing telecommunications industry from participating in the sport the way Sprint did.

No, but they reportedly did dictate that 5-Hour Energy could not move from Furniture Row Racing to another team.
 
That's completely understandable. They're not trying to reach my generation of boob-tube watchers, and we're not as likely to be swayed by marketing anyway. I acknowledge those other methods of consumption aren't ones I use. Heck, I probably haven't heard of some of them. While it does render them invisible to me, I've assumed they're reaching out to someone. It's just not on my radar.

This is the problem for Monster though. Most of NASCAR's current audience would end up going to the hospital due to cardiac arrest if they drank a can of Monster Energy.

The goal for NASCAR and Monster has to be getting new fans in. Can't survive when the current fanbase is literally dying off.
 
This is the problem for Monster though. Most of NASCAR's current audience would end up going to the hospital due to cardiac arrest if they drank a can of Monster Energy.

The goal for NASCAR and Monster has to be getting new fans in. Can't survive when the current fanbase is literally dying off.
I never understood how this was supposed to attract new customers for Monster or new fans for NASCAR. Maybe it's just me, but having a product I value associate itself with something isn't enough to draw me when I already don't care. The Charlotte Hornets could change their name to 'Jimmy Buffett and the Wild Birds Unlimited' but I still wouldn't show up at an NBA game. As you noted, most of NASCAR's existing fans don't consume energy drinks, and existing Monster drinkers are of a market that doesn't care much about traditional motorsports. The season is almost over and many of us on the outside are still going, 'Huh?'
 
I would agree with this. I remember the first time I met Mitch Covington (Monster sports marketing guy) several years ago we discussed lots of "cool things" Monster could be doing in the series, but he wasn't super receptive. His approach to marketing was pretty simple: just put a cool logo on cool things and cool people and consumers will just assume you're cool. Hard to argue against that approach, it's a great way to sell an energy drink. But it certainly doesn't work for getting eyeballs on a sport. I get that it's not their job to sell the sport...but like you said, it would be pretty cool if the title sponsor did do things which helped sell the series nationally.

JMO but sticking a Monster logo on Nascar to make it cool is like sticking a 5.7 liter Hemi applique on the fenders of a PT Cruiser.
 
If I give a driver a check for $20,000, is it my job to promote that driver, or is it their job to promote my business?
Honestly...both...but in different ways. What you're implying is one of the biggest reasons why many companies have found dissatisfaction with NASCAR (or other forms of sponsorship). They treat it like a one way street. "Here's money, now bring me impressions that lead to business." That technique is a tried and true failure. A really good sponsorship works both ways. The driver and/or series promotes the business, while the business promotes their association with the driver/series as part of the DNA of their culture.
 
This is the problem for Monster though. Most of NASCAR's current audience would end up going to the hospital due to cardiac arrest if they drank a can of Monster Energy.

The goal for NASCAR and Monster has to be getting new fans in. Can't survive when the current fanbase is literally dying off.

That is the way I understood things to be as well and I thought the intention was for some cross promotion of Nascar at other Monster events. I remember when Red Bull left the main reason (stated) was that they did not see their brand and the Nascar fan as a good fit. Maybe Monster is seeing the same thing.

I never understood how this was supposed to attract new customers for Monster or new fans for NASCAR. Maybe it's just me, but having a product I value associate itself with something isn't enough to draw me when I already don't care. The Charlotte Hornets could change their name to 'Jimmy Buffett and the Wild Birds Unlimited' but I still wouldn't show up at an NBA game. As you noted, most of NASCAR's existing fans don't consume energy drinks, and existing Monster drinkers are of a market that doesn't care much about traditional motorsports. The season is almost over and many of us on the outside are still going, 'Huh?'

It did seem like an odd pairing. Maybe not as odd as the pairing of J. Howard Marshall and Anna Nicole Smith but odd nonetheless.
 
JMO but sticking a Monster logo on Nascar to make it cool is like sticking a 5.7 liter Hemi applique on the fenders of a PT Cruiser.
I would buy a ticket to see a Cruiser with a Hemi run a 1/4 mile.

It did seem like an odd pairing. Maybe not as odd as the pairing of J. Howard Marshall and Anna Nicole Smith but odd nonetheless.
What was odd? I completely understood both sides of that transaction.
 
What was odd? I completely understood both sides of that transaction.

Now I think of it you are right.

You and I are alike in that we don't visit places where Monster may advertise and if someone offered me a can for zilch I wouldn't take it unless someone I was with wanted it as I wouldn't drink it. I have nothing against Monster (or the Monster Lifestyle even though IDK what it is) and I will even admit that Monster is an edgy brand even though IDK what that is either. IMO there would need to be a ton of work done in order to get Monster drinkers to check out Nascar and the reality is Nascar would probably have to pay Monster.
 

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If I give a driver a check for $20,000, is it my job to promote that driver, or is it their job to promote my business?

I already think Monster's been the best sponsor NASCAR's had since Winston because they do bring energy to the track. The atmosphere at Martinsville this spring was much different with them there than it has been in the past with Sprint.

Plus, Monster doesn't bar every company associated with the growing telecommunications industry from participating in the sport the way Sprint did.
Thats like throwing grass seed out in a drought.
 
Plus, Monster doesn't bar every company associated with the growing telecommunications industry from participating in the sport the way Sprint did.
Instead of Teleco's, its Energy drinks outside of that ones that are grandfathered in.
 
I would agree with this. I remember the first time I met Mitch Covington (Monster sports marketing guy) several years ago we discussed lots of "cool things" Monster could be doing in the series, but he wasn't super receptive. His approach to marketing was pretty simple: just put a cool logo on cool things and cool people and consumers will just assume you're cool. Hard to argue against that approach, it's a great way to sell an energy drink. But it certainly doesn't work for getting eyeballs on a sport. I get that it's not their job to sell the sport...but like you said, it would be pretty cool if the title sponsor did do things which helped sell the series nationally.

The problem with that is that this particular company doesn't appeal to everyone. It's an energy drink.

It doesn't have that worldwide appeal like say..a cell phone company like Sprint which also has more marketing power and the money to spend.

Monster is really a small company when you compare them with the past sponsors of NASCAR.
 
The problem with that is that this particular company doesn't appeal to everyone. It's an energy drink.

It doesn't have that worldwide appeal like say..a cell phone company like Sprint which also has more marketing power and the money to spend.

Monster is really a small company when you compare them with the past sponsors of NASCAR.

IMO it is more important for Nascar to align themselves with brands and companies that have the potential to get younger eyes on the series. Anyone of any age is welcome to become a fan but with the average Nascar fan being 58 needing to get some young blood in isn't even a question, IMO.
 
You could say the same thing about Winston and they were here during the most popular years of the sport when the big money really got involved.

Doesn't really apply as they were in place for decades before big corporations actually dictated how and in what format you must race to get the their money.
 
Monster has dissapointed some, they need do more with the eye candy.
They need to loose those long leggings in the summer and do more primping, before and after the race.
It is a guaranteed method that works with most all normal people.
 
Monster has dissapointed some, they need do more with the eye candy.
They need to loose those long leggings in the summer and do more primping, before and after the race.
It is a guaranteed method that works with most all normal people.

Weren't some fans up in arms about the girls tight skin pants a few months ago? Can you imagine the fake outrage if they go your route..which I would welcome with open arms. :D
 
Doesn't really apply as they were in place for decades before big corporations actually dictated how and in what format you must race to get the their money.
The amount of time they were in place doesn't make it more or less of an appealing product to the consumer as you said about Monster. That's the only part I was referring to.

Edit: I agree with your original post as a whole that aspect was my one nitpick :D
 
IMO it is more important for Nascar to align themselves with brands and companies that have the potential to get younger eyes on the series. Anyone of any age is welcome to become a fan but with the average Nascar fan being 58 needing to get some young blood in isn't even a question, IMO.

Yeah I think NASCAR went into that approach way too late.

If you go to any or most 18-20 year old and ask about what NASCAR is about they will tell you two things, 1, they go in circles and 2, I only watch for the crashes follow by its too boring.

The problem also is that most 90s kid is not going to put THEIR kids in front of a TV to watch NASCAR like they did before.

They are more likely to be exposed to other form of racing now with NASCAR struggling like never before. I would say, if you're a hardcore NASCAR fan to enjoy it while it still somewhat relevant.

Indycar and F1 is slowly gaining traction in the US.
 
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